Re: How to fix the income statement so that incomes are positive and expenses are negative?

2019-05-09 Thread John Mee
beancount-web produces the same outputs of positive and negatives, so it's not fava's fault? Perhaps I need education as to how things to think of things on balance sheets and income statements. ie on reports: assets +'ve & equity -'ve === income -'ve & expenses +'ve? vs assets- & equity+ ==

Re: How to fix the income statement so that incomes are positive and expenses are negative?

2019-05-09 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* John Mee <*@johnmee.com> [2019-05-09 00:26]: > beancount-web produces the same outputs of positive and negatives, > so it's not fava's fault? You may want to read this introduction to find out why income, equity and liabilities are negative in beancount: https://docs.google.com/document/d/100tG

Re: How to fix the income statement so that incomes are positive and expenses are negative?

2019-05-09 Thread Florian Lindner
Am 09.05.19 um 08:44 schrieb John Mee:> Perhaps this is an issue of fava, I'm sure you'll redirect me if so... my problem is that fava's balance sheet shows assets as positive values and equity as negative (which is also odd, imho both sides should be positive values?) thence the income Stateme

Re: How to fix the income statement so that incomes are positive and expenses are negative?

2019-05-09 Thread Zhuoyun Wei
I understand you. The problem here is that Beancount does not use traditional double-entry terms like "credit" and "debit" for different types of accounts. It uses signs. It uses this modified account equation: (Income + Liabilities) + (Assets + Expenses) + Equity = 0 So, in most cases, Income

Re: How to fix the income statement so that incomes are positive and expenses are negative?

2019-05-09 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Thu, May 09, 2019 at 04:51:15AM -0400, Zhuoyun Wei wrote: > Perhaps Fava could provide a fava-option that flips the signs to > generate a "traditional" Income Statement and Balance Sheet? There are indeed two different aspects here that have been conflated in this thread. One is what Beancount

Re: How to fix the income statement so that incomes are positive and expenses are negative?

2019-05-09 Thread Zhuoyun Wei
https://github.com/beancount/fava/issues/920 -- Zhuoyun Wei On Thu, May 9, 2019, at 05:18, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > On Thu, May 09, 2019 at 04:51:15AM -0400, Zhuoyun Wei wrote: > > Perhaps Fava could provide a fava-option that flips the signs to > > generate a "traditional" Income Statement a

Re: How to fix the income statement so that incomes are positive and expenses are negative?

2019-05-09 Thread francois PEGORY
Showing the sign on the traditional way meaning positive for income and negative for expenses could also have some consequences. For example: I see the transactions related to my banking account. Here when I have a transaction where it is a expense, it is logical that the legs of the transaction r

Re: bean-bake export from linux to mac or windows

2019-05-09 Thread richard gott
Our mac is a geriatric! Prof R Gott > Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2019 at 5:17 PM > From: "Zhuoyun Wei" > To: Beancount > Subject: Re: bean-bake export from linux to mac or windows > > I heard that recent versions of macOS use a newer filesystem named APFS. > Perhaps you could try to open the fi

Re: bean-bake export from linux to mac or windows

2019-05-09 Thread richard gott
The man's a star. I shall try that asap. Thank you Richard Prof R Gott > Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2019 at 4:31 AM > From: "Martin Blais" > To: Beancount > Subject: Re: bean-bake export from linux to mac or windows > > bergamot:~$ bean-bake --help > ... > --no-colons Don't render col

How to account for a partial reimbursement

2019-05-09 Thread troy . williams
I went to the dentist last month for a root canal and had to pay out of pocket for the costs and I was reimbursed later on, but not the full amount of the cost. I have an account, Expenses:Medical:Dental, which I usually charge against. The idea behind this account is that at the end of the yea

load_file omits some entries (balances)

2019-05-09 Thread Florian Lindner
Hello, I extended my importer to also work as transformer, applying the rules used at input on existing beancount files: entries, error, option_map = bc.loader.load_file(args.inputfile) transformed_entries = [] for e in entries: transformed_entries.append(transform_txn(e) if

Re: How to account for a partial reimbursement

2019-05-09 Thread Daniel Clemente
In your example, from the 1500 CAD only 500 CAD are from your money, so that's the only expense (and I guess it's the only part you can deduct when filing taxes). The other 1000 CAD are like a loan you're making to your insurance (you're lending them money to pay the bill and you later recover it).

Re: How to account for a partial reimbursement

2019-05-09 Thread troy . williams
Thank you Daniel. That is what I was looking for! On Thursday, May 9, 2019 at 11:38:56 AM UTC-4, Daniel Clemente wrote: > > In your example, from the 1500 CAD only 500 CAD are from your money, so > that's the only expense (and I guess it's the only part you can deduct when > filing taxes). The o

Re: How to fix the income statement so that incomes are positive and expenses are negative?

2019-05-09 Thread John Mee
> You may want to read this introduction to find out why income, equity > and liabilities are negative in beancount: > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/100tGcA4blh6KSXPRGCZpUlyxaRUwFHEvnz_k9DyZFn4/edit > > Thanks Martin. It's reassuring to discover that this 'fault' is by design. What

Re: How to account for a partial reimbursement

2019-05-09 Thread John Mee
...doh, sorry for the noise, that should probably be around the other way... fiddle until it is right. I just wanted to suggest tagging as the solution. 2019-04-16 * "Insurance" "Medical Expense reimbursement for Root Canal" #reimbursment # Assets:Chequing 1000.00 CAD Exp

Re: How to account for a partial reimbursement

2019-05-09 Thread John Mee
I'd shy away from editing the old transaction as it discards the timeline and doesn't reflect reality. You have transactions on your CC that your accounts don't correctly reflect! In this instance it was only a few days, but sometimes these things take weeks, or months, for the cycle to be co

Re: load_file omits some entries (balances)

2019-05-09 Thread Martin Blais
I read your message twice. I don't understand what you're trying to do. On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 11:12 AM Florian Lindner wrote: > Hello, > > I extended my importer to also work as transformer, applying the rules > used at input on existing beancount files: > > entries, error, option_map = b

Re: How to fix the income statement so that incomes are positive and expenses are negative?

2019-05-09 Thread Martin Blais
Two old ideas which have never been implemented: - Allow all positive signs in the input, inverting based on the accounts (all postings are associated with accounts, so this would be easy). This may make it a little more difficult to eyeball that a transaction balances properly, but that's up to t

Re: How to account for a partial reimbursement

2019-05-09 Thread Martin Blais
There's a lot to say and it's an involved topic (especially with in-network and out-of-network differences), I can't do it right now (I'll write a doc at some point, I started writing something here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/16RKEl1NJ3qg8VU9vKRRvgIv3CyGs0_4ASS4lD5iBFTw/edit?usp=sharing bu