Re: [BangPypers] Regarding Python popularity

2010-02-08 Thread Arun Ravindran
Hi, > 1.The other day my friend was saying ;Since python is opensource ,so many companies fear that their product's byte code could be reverse engineered.To protect their Intellectual Property rights they stay away from python, is it true? If the company in question has great concerns abt

Re: [BangPypers] Regarding Python popularity

2010-02-08 Thread Dhananjay Nene
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 5:57 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai < abpil...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 5:06 PM, Navin Kabra wrote: > > > On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 4:58 PM, Shashwat Anand > >wrote: > > > > > Mine one of senior (at Amazon) suggested me "Go learn C++/ Java and > > improve > >

Re: [BangPypers] Regarding Python popularity

2010-02-08 Thread Anand Balachandran Pillai
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 5:06 PM, Navin Kabra wrote: > On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 4:58 PM, Shashwat Anand >wrote: > > > Mine one of senior (at Amazon) suggested me "Go learn C++/ Java and > improve > > your DS/ Algo/ OS/OOP skills > > > > > That is a wrong notion and should be corrected immediately.

Re: [BangPypers] Regarding Python popularity

2010-02-08 Thread Jeff Rush
Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy wrote: > >>> This is subjective. I personally think it's mainly marketing (Java had > Sun and C# had MS). This leads to secondary effects like certifications > (which are useful for >>>non-tech hiring managers to evaluate potential > employees), availability of 'resource

Re: [BangPypers] Regarding Python popularity

2010-02-08 Thread Shashwat Anand
> > On the other hand, I would like to point out that to really, really improve > your DS/Algo skills (two of the most important skills for a CS graduate, > IMO), python is a great language. You can learn, and prototype, and > experiment much faster than if you were to try the same thing in Java/C/

Re: [BangPypers] Regarding Python popularity

2010-02-08 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Monday 08 Feb 2010 4:58:47 pm Shashwat Anand wrote: > Just wanted to say that for a student, who want ti get recruited via campus > placement knowledge of C/C++/Java is a must and the knowledge of python > doesn't even count. Sad > I would not say that - there is a demand in India for python p

Re: [BangPypers] Regarding Python popularity

2010-02-08 Thread Navin Kabra
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 4:58 PM, Shashwat Anand wrote: > Mine one of senior (at Amazon) suggested me "Go learn C++/ Java and improve > your DS/ Algo/ OS/OOP skills > On the other hand, I would like to point out that to really, really improve your DS/Algo skills (two of the most important skills f

Re: [BangPypers] Regarding Python popularity

2010-02-08 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Monday 08 Feb 2010 4:54:44 pm Dhananjay Nene wrote: > On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 4:20 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > > could you fix your mail client please - the formatting is a mess and I > > cannot > > make out what is quoted and what is not > > > > Hmm.. begs the question what could I do about

Re: [BangPypers] Regarding Python popularity

2010-02-08 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Monday 08 Feb 2010 4:50:07 pm Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > > excellent answer - but you should add that choice of language and > > platform is most often done by suits without domain knowledge and on > > extraneous considerations[..] > > The converse where 'hackers' don't understand the forces that

Re: [BangPypers] Regarding Python popularity

2010-02-08 Thread Dhananjay Nene
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 4:25 PM, Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy < srinivas_thatipar...@akebonosoft.com> wrote: > >>If you look beyond the Marketing and a bit of the resultant herd > mentality, you will realise that most languages have a good sweetspot > they manage to excel at. > > > I never searched f

Re: [BangPypers] Regarding Python popularity

2010-02-08 Thread Shashwat Anand
Companies coming for hiring (campus-placement) never look the knowledge of python as an additional advantage. Infact none of them care. I check-listed the profile of all the 20+ companies which came and none of them had to deal with anything python (except google, amazon, directi) and even these t

Re: [BangPypers] Regarding Python popularity

2010-02-08 Thread Dhananjay Nene
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 4:50 PM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 4:24 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves > wrote: > > On Monday 08 Feb 2010 4:17:23 pm Dhananjay Nene wrote: > >> So to put it simply - there is no simple cut and dry answer. If you look > >> beyond the Marketing and a bit of the r

Re: [BangPypers] Regarding Python popularity

2010-02-08 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Monday 08 Feb 2010 4:47:01 pm Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > You don't need to write code in lisp for AI. Lisp excels at symbol > manipulation which was once thought of as an important feature of an > intelligent system. > I have written AI code in pascal -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Senior Project

Re: [BangPypers] Regarding Python popularity

2010-02-08 Thread Dhananjay Nene
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 4:20 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > could you fix your mail client please - the formatting is a mess and I > cannot > make out what is quoted and what is not > > Hmm.. begs the question what could I do about it .. its GMail web client :D Not sure if I have a solution for t

Re: [BangPypers] Regarding Python popularity

2010-02-08 Thread Noufal Ibrahim
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 4:24 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > On Monday 08 Feb 2010 4:17:23 pm Dhananjay Nene wrote: >> So to put it simply - there is no simple cut and dry answer. If you look >> beyond the Marketing and a bit of the resultant herd mentality, you will >> realise that most languages h

Re: [BangPypers] Regarding Python popularity

2010-02-08 Thread Noufal Ibrahim
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 4:25 PM, Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy wrote: [..] > I never searched for it .But in what domains  Python is excellent > compared to other OOP languages? Glue apps. It seems to have a foothold in web programming Prototyping/Rapid development I haven't seen a domain in which P

Re: [BangPypers] Regarding Python popularity

2010-02-08 Thread Ankur Gupta
Hi, Python usage as a prototyping language is very high. Lot of ppl in Machine Learning field use Python to prototype and test their algorithm against small dataset and finally code the same in C++/Java for deployment. (Don't want to get into what runs fast/slow flamewar plz). Regards Ankur On M

Re: [BangPypers] Regarding Python popularity

2010-02-08 Thread Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy
>>If you look beyond the Marketing and a bit of the resultant herd mentality, you will realise that most languages have a good sweetspot they manage to excel at. I never searched for it .But in what domains Python is excellent compared to other OOP languages? I know that for AI ,you need to writ

Re: [BangPypers] Regarding Python popularity

2010-02-08 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Monday 08 Feb 2010 4:17:23 pm Dhananjay Nene wrote: > So to put it simply - there is no simple cut and dry answer. If you look > beyond the Marketing and a bit of the resultant herd mentality, you will > realise that most languages have a good sweetspot they manage to excel at. > And thats what

Re: [BangPypers] Regarding Python popularity

2010-02-08 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
could you fix your mail client please - the formatting is a mess and I cannot make out what is quoted and what is not On Monday 08 Feb 2010 4:07:19 pm Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy wrote: > >>The fact that Python is open source is orthogonal to the fact that it > > compiles source into bytecode whi

Re: [BangPypers] Regarding Python popularity

2010-02-08 Thread Dhananjay Nene
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy < srinivas_thatipar...@akebonosoft.com> wrote: > 1.The other day my friend was saying ;Since python is opensource ,so > many companies fear that their product's byte code > could be reverse engineered.To protect their Intellectual Propert

Re: [BangPypers] Regarding Python popularity

2010-02-08 Thread Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy
>>The fact that Python is open source is orthogonal to the fact that it compiles source into bytecode which can be decompiled. Also "Python" >>can't be open source. "Python" is a programming language. A concrete implementation (eg. CPython) can be open source. >>By your logic, "C" is opensource (in

Re: [BangPypers] Regarding Python popularity

2010-02-08 Thread Anand Chitipothu
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy wrote: > 1.The other day my friend was saying ;Since python is opensource ,so > many companies fear that their product's byte code > could be reverse engineered.To protect  their Intellectual Property > rights they stay away from python, >

Re: [BangPypers] Regarding Python popularity

2010-02-08 Thread Noufal Ibrahim
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy wrote: > 1.The other day my friend was saying ;Since python is opensource , The fact that Python is open source is orthogonal to the fact that it compiles source into bytecode which can be decompiled. Also "Python" can't be open source. "