Re: [BangPypers] Python Day India

2009-05-06 Thread Kiran Jonnalagadda
2009/5/3 Senthil Kumaran > Kiran, it looks like we may not meet again on May 9th for Pycon, but > the PyCon related discussions will happen next on May 17th. > Fair enough, Senthil. I'll go ahead with just Zine on May 9. Anyone who wants to discuss anything else is still more than welcome. Be

Re: [BangPypers] Python Day India

2009-05-03 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Monday 04 May 2009 05:53:50 Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > The advantage of tying up with an institution - > ideally an engineering college - is that if the college management is > involved, most of the infrastructure stuff just happens, which is a huge > load of your mind. In this respect, we could

Re: [BangPypers] Python Day India

2009-05-03 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Friday 01 May 2009 17:24:47 Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > Taking "charge", I'm perfectly willing cool - you get my vote > although I see the conference > as something which comes about because the community wants it rather > than an individuals ego trip. The only real need for a leader is to > put hi

Re: [BangPypers] Python Day India

2009-05-03 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Sun, May 03, 2009 at 04:39:03PM +0530, Kiran Jonnalagadda wrote: > > > Taking "charge", I'm perfectly willing although I see the conference > > as something which comes about because the community wants it rather > > than an individuals ego trip. The only real need for a leader is to > > put hi

Re: [BangPypers] Python Day India

2009-05-03 Thread Kiran Jonnalagadda
2009/5/1 Noufal Ibrahim > Taking "charge", I'm perfectly willing although I see the conference > as something which comes about because the community wants it rather > than an individuals ego trip. The only real need for a leader is to > put his foot down at times when things are dragging. > Nou

Re: [BangPypers] Python Day India

2009-05-02 Thread Kiran Jonnalagadda
CIS has confirmed venue availability for May 9. I'll post an announcement when I'm back in Bangalore. On 5/1/09, Anand Chitipothu wrote: >> Another date again? :) >> Well, there are 5 people signed up for for May 3 meeting. So we are >> going forward with it.. We can meet up on May 8th, if majori

Re: [BangPypers] Python Day India

2009-05-01 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Fri, May 01, 2009 at 10:05:01PM +0500, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > Excellent. I'll take the lead as soon as I'm back (12/May). For this > meeting, if one you guys (Senthil or Ramdas) could cover all the major > items we have to handle to get a conference going and put it up on the > wiki, we'd have

Re: [BangPypers] Python Day India

2009-05-01 Thread Noufal Ibrahim
Excellent. I'll take the lead as soon as I'm back (12/May). For this meeting, if one you guys (Senthil or Ramdas) could cover all the major items we have to handle to get a conference going and put it up on the wiki, we'd have officially started and can move ahead. On 5/1/09, Ramdas S wrote: >

Re: [BangPypers] Python Day India

2009-05-01 Thread Ramdas S
Fine. I will be there On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 10:09 PM, Senthil Kumaran wrote: > On Fri, May 01, 2009 at 04:54:47PM +0500, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > > Can someone send out a final Time/Date/Venue/Agenda mail so that > > everyone is in sync? > > Time: 3:00 - 5:00 pm > Date: May 3 > Venue: TW > Agenda:

Re: [BangPypers] Python Day India

2009-05-01 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Fri, May 01, 2009 at 04:54:47PM +0500, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > Can someone send out a final Time/Date/Venue/Agenda mail so that > everyone is in sync? Time: 3:00 - 5:00 pm Date: May 3 Venue: TW Agenda: PyCon India 2009. Thanks, Senthil ___ BangPyper

Re: [BangPypers] Python Day India

2009-05-01 Thread Noufal Ibrahim
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 4:47 PM, Anand Chitipothu wrote: >> Another date again? :) >> Well, there are 5 people signed up for for May 3 meeting. So we are >> going forward with it.. We can meet up on May 8th, if majority folks >> feel the need. > > Saturday is May 9th, not May 8th. May 9th *is* a l

Re: [BangPypers] Python Day India

2009-05-01 Thread Anand Chitipothu
> Another date again? :) > Well, there are 5 people signed up for for May 3 meeting. So we are > going forward with it.. We can meet up on May 8th, if majority folks > feel the need. Saturday is May 9th, not May 8th. +1 for May 9th. ___ BangPypers maili

Re: [BangPypers] Python Day India

2009-05-01 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Fri, May 01, 2009 at 03:55:10PM +0530, Kiran Jonnalagadda wrote: > 2009/5/1 Kenneth Gonsalves > > > > > I volunteer to run the event. I am willing to take the blame if it flops. > > And > > share the fame if it succeeds. The only request I have is that in all > > decisions, which will be afte

Re: [BangPypers] Python Day India

2009-05-01 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Fri, May 01, 2009 at 03:21:07PM +0530, Anand Chitipothu wrote: > >  You seem to have a subversive agenda on MG Road that day. > >  Perhaps a date ;) ? > > It takes me about 1 and half to 2 hours to reach ThoughtWorks and it > just takes less than an hour to reach M G Road. Totally it saves 2 >

Re: [BangPypers] Python Day India

2009-05-01 Thread Kiran Jonnalagadda
2009/5/1 Kenneth Gonsalves > > I volunteer to run the event. I am willing to take the blame if it flops. > And > share the fame if it succeeds. The only request I have is that in all > decisions, which will be after a free discussion, I have the final word. If > this is acceptable, I will be the

Re: [BangPypers] Python Day India

2009-05-01 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Friday 01 May 2009 15:27:30 Kiran Jonnalagadda wrote: > 2. Second half: Provide a place for anyone interested in discussing PyCon > India. Since I'm not volunteering to run the event, I have no agenda. I > will continue to work on Zine if no one is interested in PyCon. I volunteer to run the ev

Re: [BangPypers] Python Day India

2009-05-01 Thread Anand Chitipothu
> This discussion has turned into a design by committee orgy. The only way > this will work is if someone takes charge, makes decisions, and asks the > list for approval and publicity, not suggestions. You're better off > correcting for bad decisions than expecting a crowd to make them in the > fir

Re: [BangPypers] Python Day India

2009-05-01 Thread Kiran Jonnalagadda
2009/5/1 Ramdas S > I will make it on 3rd Sunday! Let's get talking. Thoughtworks is fine I'm out of town for the long weekend, as I suspect several others on this list are. This discussion has turned into a design by committee orgy. The only way this will work is if someone takes charge,

Re: [BangPypers] Python Day India

2009-05-01 Thread Anand Chitipothu
>  You seem to have a subversive agenda on MG Road that day. >  Perhaps a date ;) ? It takes me about 1 and half to 2 hours to reach ThoughtWorks and it just takes less than an hour to reach M G Road. Totally it saves 2 hours of my time. >  I am OK with meeting on MG Road or church street. Thank

Re: [BangPypers] Python Day India

2009-05-01 Thread Ramdas S
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 2:54 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai < abpil...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 2:45 PM, Anand Chitipothu wrote: > >> > I remember reading somewhere that ICH is moved out. Let's have it at >> > Thoughtworks. >> >> Thoughtworks is too far. How about Barista at ch

Re: [BangPypers] Python Day India

2009-05-01 Thread Anand Balachandran Pillai
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 2:45 PM, Anand Chitipothu wrote: > > I remember reading somewhere that ICH is moved out. Let's have it at > > Thoughtworks. > > Thoughtworks is too far. How about Barista at church street? You seem to have a subversive agenda on MG Road that day. Perhaps a date ;) ? I

Re: [BangPypers] Python Day India

2009-05-01 Thread Anand Chitipothu
> I remember reading somewhere that ICH is moved out. Let's have it at > Thoughtworks. Thoughtworks is too far. How about Barista at church street? ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers

Re: [BangPypers] Python Day India

2009-05-01 Thread Ramdas S
I remember reading somewhere that ICH is moved out. Let's have it at Thoughtworks. On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Anand Chitipothu wrote: > > My experience with open environments is that they dilute > > the discussions. It is difficult to keep the eye away from > > all the dazzle, especial

Re: [BangPypers] Python Day India

2009-05-01 Thread Anand Chitipothu
>   My experience with open environments is that they dilute >   the discussions. It is difficult to keep the eye away from >   all the dazzle, especially on MG Road ;) > >   For this, I prefer a "closeted" place, where we have >  a whiteboard or something to write on. Much more easier >  than tryi

Re: [BangPypers] Python Day India

2009-05-01 Thread Anand Balachandran Pillai
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Anand Chitipothu wrote: > > I plan to attend this and I have added my name. > > Btw, let us make this exclusive to discussion on Pycon > > and not have any talks - that is my suggestion. > > sounds good. > > > 4-6pm is rather late in the day. Does anyone have

Re: [BangPypers] Python Day India

2009-05-01 Thread Anand Chitipothu
>   I plan to attend this and I have added my name. >  Btw, let us make this exclusive to discussion on Pycon >  and not have any talks - that is my suggestion. sounds good. >   4-6pm is rather late in the day. Does anyone have objections >   for pushing it up by an hour, i.e 3-5 pm ? fine with

Re: [BangPypers] Python Day India

2009-05-01 Thread Senthil Kumaran
> On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 10:34 AM, Sriram Narayanan wrote: > > Done. > > > > Time: Sunday 4 to 6 pm. > > Date: Sunday, May 3, 2009. > > > Thats's fine.. We can stick to the timing. Thanks, Senthil ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org ht

Re: [BangPypers] Python Day India

2009-05-01 Thread Anand Balachandran Pillai
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 12:11 PM, Anand Chitipothu wrote: > I created a wiki page for the meeting. > > http://wiki.python.org/moin/BangPypers/Meeting03May2009 > > Please confirm your participation by adding your name. > Anybody interested to give a talk? I plan to attend this and I have added m

Re: [BangPypers] Python Day India

2009-04-30 Thread Anand Chitipothu
I created a wiki page for the meeting. http://wiki.python.org/moin/BangPypers/Meeting03May2009 Please confirm your participation by adding your name. Anybody interested to give a talk? Anand ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail

Re: [BangPypers] Python Day India

2009-04-30 Thread Noufal Ibrahim
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 10:34 AM, Sriram Narayanan wrote: > On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 10:56 AM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: >> Sriram, can you book the venue and send out the details? >> > > Done. > > Time: Sunday 4 to 6 pm. > Date: Sunday, May 3, 2009. > Thanks man. Let's get this show on the road. --

Re: [BangPypers] Python Day India

2009-04-30 Thread Sriram Narayanan
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Sriram Narayanan wrote: > On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 10:56 AM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: >> Sriram, can you book the venue and send out the details? >> > > Done. > > Time: Sunday 4 to 6 pm. Sorry, I went ahead and noted the timing without a larger number of people giving

Re: [BangPypers] Python Day India

2009-04-30 Thread Sriram Narayanan
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 10:56 AM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > Sriram, can you book the venue and send out the details? > Done. Time: Sunday 4 to 6 pm. Date: Sunday, May 3, 2009. Venue: Thoughtworks, Second Floor, Tower C, Corporate Block, Diamond District, HAL Airport Road, Bangalore 560 008 Landmar

Re: [BangPypers] Python Day India

2009-04-30 Thread Noufal Ibrahim
May 3rd at ThoughtWorks then. Shall we say 4 to 6? I think we can keep the last 30-45 minutes for the PyCon discussion and the remaining for some random chit chat and one of these presentations http://wiki.python.org/moin/BangPypers/PresentationTopics Please feel free to adjust the time as per the

Re: [BangPypers] Python Day India

2009-04-30 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 10:24:39AM +0530, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > Suppose we have a mini meeting in June, what would our timeline be > like after that in order to get something going in September? Sorry, for pitching in late. I am behind my mails by a huge margin. :) I did get the gist of the Pyth

Re: [BangPypers] Python Day India

2009-04-30 Thread Ramdas S
I will make it on 3rd Sunday! Let's get talking. Thoughtworks is fine On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 12:59 AM, Sriram Narayanan wrote: > On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 11:15 PM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > > > > > So, is May 3 fine with everyone? Can we get a venue? > > Thoughtworks will be available as a ven

Re: [BangPypers] Python Day India

2009-04-30 Thread Sriram Narayanan
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 11:15 PM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > > So, is May 3 fine with everyone? Can we get a venue? Thoughtworks will be available as a venue. Let me know and I'll make the arrangements -- Ram ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@pytho

Re: [BangPypers] Python Day India

2009-04-30 Thread Noufal Ibrahim
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 9:19 PM, Ramdas S wrote: [..] > > So please can we have a meeting, a ** real meeting** to discuss Pycon India? > While it's unfair to expect people outside Bangalore to make it to the > meeting,we can have a live IRC update of actual discussions of the meeting > so everyone

Re: [BangPypers] Python Day India

2009-04-30 Thread Ramdas S
Always for anything its smart to start with a budget. We know we can do a single day event for about 1 L plus, and yes, I know sponsorship can be raised for the same. We had written commitments for around the same kind of figure last time we planned a Python conference. A Pycon branding should hel

Re: [BangPypers] Python Day India

2009-04-30 Thread Noufal Ibrahim
Unless we get a little more concrete about the PyCon-lite idea that Ramakrishnan suggested, I think we should move forward with the September idea. Otherwise, this will degenerate into total "talking away to glory". Some timelines and expense estimates would be a good start. -- ~noufal ___

Re: [BangPypers] Python Day India

2009-04-30 Thread Noufal Ibrahim
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 5:46 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai wrote: [..] > While we are talking away to glory, has anyone tried to measure the > pulse of the prospective sponsors to see whether we could get the > kind of money and support required for having a 3 day PyCon India > in September ? I d

Re: [BangPypers] Python Day India

2009-04-30 Thread Anand Balachandran Pillai
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 2:53 PM, Ramdas S wrote: > Let me explain. > > Starting a society even not for profit has its own little legal tangles and > will also cost some monies (less than 10 K). But most importantly you'll > need to keep accounts, ensure that returns are filed, even if not much >

Re: [BangPypers] Python Day India

2009-04-30 Thread Noufal Ibrahim
While these inputs are valuable, they are OT. Let's stick to the discussion of the PyCon-lite. -- ~noufal ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers

Re: [BangPypers] Python Day India

2009-04-30 Thread Ramdas S
Let me explain. Starting a society even not for profit has its own little legal tangles and will also cost some monies (less than 10 K). But most importantly you'll need to keep accounts, ensure that returns are filed, even if not much transaction happen etc etc See I dont see the costs scaling u

Re: [BangPypers] Python Day India

2009-04-30 Thread Anand Chitipothu
> P.S :: Another Important topic is, if say a not for profit society > needs to be formed, (we might face the issue when the money flows in > with sponsors for the actual conference) we can get signatories at the > python day itself ;-) anyway this will be totally another thread and > is OT for thi

Re: [BangPypers] Python Day India

2009-04-30 Thread Noufal Ibrahim
Hello Ramakrishna, On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Ramakrishna Reddy wrote: > On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 12:15 PM, Anand Chitipothu > wrote: > > >> What are we trying to achieve by running a mini pycon? If we are >> planning to see people traveling from other places, then why not do >> pycon dire

Re: [BangPypers] Python Day India

2009-04-30 Thread Ramakrishna Reddy
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 12:15 PM, Anand Chitipothu wrote: > What are we trying to achieve by running a mini pycon? If we are > planning to see people traveling from other places, then why not do > pycon directly? We'll this is just a day , not even a mini conf, something bigger than a bangpyper

Re: [BangPypers] Python Day India

2009-04-29 Thread Anand Chitipothu
>> I know that - what part of what Noufal said is FUD? > >  The portion that says "If we actually spend time and energy *organising* a > mini pycon, that will be the end of the real conference I think" I agree with Noufal here. What are we trying to achieve by running a mini pycon? If we are plan

Re: [BangPypers] Python Day India

2009-04-29 Thread Vivek Khurana
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 11:38 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > On Thursday 30 April 2009 11:11:26 Ramdas S wrote: > > Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt > > I know that - what part of what Noufal said is FUD? The portion that says "If we actually spend time and energy *organising* a mini pycon, that will b

Re: [BangPypers] Python Day India

2009-04-29 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Thursday 30 April 2009 11:11:26 Ramdas S wrote: > Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt I know that - what part of what Noufal said is FUD? -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate NRC-FOSS http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@pytho

Re: [BangPypers] Python Day India

2009-04-29 Thread Baishampayan Ghose
>> IMO that is pure FUD... > > what exactly is FUD? Fear Uncertainty & Doubt. Regards, BG -- Baishampayan Ghose b.ghose at gmail.com ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers

Re: [BangPypers] Python Day India

2009-04-29 Thread Ramdas S
Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 11:06 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > On Thursday 30 April 2009 04:47:04 Vivek Khurana wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 10:54 PM, Noufal Ibrahim > wrote: > > > If we actually spend time and energy *organising* a mini pycon, that > > > will be the

Re: [BangPypers] Python Day India

2009-04-29 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Thursday 30 April 2009 04:47:04 Vivek Khurana wrote: > On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 10:54 PM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > > If we actually spend time and energy *organising* a mini pycon, that > > will be the end of the real conference I think. I'm -1 for that. > > > > However, putting an extra session

Re: [BangPypers] Python Day India

2009-04-29 Thread Noufal Ibrahim
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 4:47 AM, Vivek Khurana wrote: [..] > IMO that is pure FUD... [..] Fair enough. If we are going to have a pycon-lite in June as Ramakrishna suggested, we need to come up with some kind of timelines for when that will happen and what we will do after that for the big one. I

Re: [BangPypers] Python Day India

2009-04-29 Thread Vivek Khurana
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 10:54 PM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > If we actually spend time and energy *organising* a mini pycon, that > will be the end of the real conference I think. I'm -1 for that. > > However, putting an extra session during a user group meeting to > discuss the PyCon will be fruitf

Re: [BangPypers] Python Day India

2009-04-29 Thread Noufal Ibrahim
If we actually spend time and energy *organising* a mini pycon, that will be the end of the real conference I think. I'm -1 for that. However, putting an extra session during a user group meeting to discuss the PyCon will be fruitful and will move us towards a conference. I'm +1 for this. What do

Re: [BangPypers] Python Day India

2009-04-28 Thread Anand Chitipothu
> nice idea. This can give us an idea how many guys will turn iup for actual > event No, it only dilutes the spirit of PyCon. some people may decide to attend only one of these two. ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org

Re: [BangPypers] Python Day India

2009-04-28 Thread Noufal Ibrahim
Suppose we have a mini meeting in June, what would our timeline be like after that in order to get something going in September? -- ~noufal ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers

Re: [BangPypers] Python Day India

2009-04-28 Thread Kapsicum
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Vivek Khurana wrote: > > > On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 4:38 PM, Ramakrishna Reddy wrote: > >> Hello everybody. >> >> Since most of the folks here expressed an interest to hold a face to >> face meeting for planing pycon. I would like to propose a Python Day. >> Somet

Re: [BangPypers] Python Day India

2009-04-28 Thread Vivek Khurana
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 4:38 PM, Ramakrishna Reddy wrote: > Hello everybody. > > Since most of the folks here expressed an interest to hold a face to > face meeting for planing pycon. I would like to propose a Python Day. > Sometime in late June/July, It might give people from outside > Bengaluru

Re: [BangPypers] Python Day India

2009-04-28 Thread Ramdas S
nice idea. This can give us an idea how many guys will turn iup for actual event Ramdas On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 6:44 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai < abpil...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 6:06 PM, Anand Chitipothu wrote: > >> > >> > This is a very good idea. We have been talkin

Re: [BangPypers] Python Day India

2009-04-28 Thread Noufal Ibrahim
Let me chime in here. A couple of us in B'lore (Anand C, Senthil and myself) met last weekend on the bug day (25/April) to talk about Python in general and the topic of the conference came up. A couple of ideas got thrown around and I've just finished distilling them into something a little more c

Re: [BangPypers] Python Day India

2009-04-28 Thread Anand Balachandran Pillai
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 6:06 PM, Anand Chitipothu wrote: > > > > This is a very good idea. We have been talking of a Pycon > > but this gives a forum for people to come together to discuss > > the topics for a shorter time period. Certainly this would > > lead to ideas which can be used for a larg

Re: [BangPypers] Python Day India

2009-04-28 Thread Anand Chitipothu
> > This is a very good idea. We have been talking of a Pycon > but this gives a forum for people to come together to discuss > the topics for a shorter time period. Certainly this would > lead to ideas which can be used for a larger Pycon India. > > +1 -1 Meeting in june/july will be too late to

Re: [BangPypers] Python Day India

2009-04-28 Thread Anand Balachandran Pillai
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 5:54 PM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 4:38 PM, Ramakrishna Reddy > wrote: > > Hello everybody. > > > > Since most of the folks here expressed an interest to hold a face to > > face meeting for planing pycon. I would like to propose a Python Day. > > So

Re: [BangPypers] Python Day India

2009-04-28 Thread Noufal Ibrahim
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 4:38 PM, Ramakrishna Reddy wrote: > Hello everybody. > > Since most of the folks here expressed an interest to hold  a face to > face meeting for planing pycon. I would like to propose a Python Day. > Sometime in late June/July, It might give people from outside > Bengaluru