Re: [BangPypers] python for management studies

2010-06-04 Thread Venkatraman S
On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 4:03 PM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > Some information on good practices like version control might be good > too although that wanders away from "programming" and moves into > "software development". > > Not exactly. This is the point that i exactly was trying to make - dont le

Re: [BangPypers] python for management studies

2010-06-04 Thread Noufal Ibrahim
On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 3:58 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: [..] >> Which is why I asked Kenneth about the intention of the course. It >> depends on that really. >> > > as a non-IT person and a non-programmer I have found that the ability to > script some things gives me an immense sense of empowerme

Re: [BangPypers] python for management studies

2010-06-04 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Friday 04 June 2010 14:46:53 Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Venkatraman S wrote: > [..] > > > Do NOT expect MBA grads to program - they are decision makers, they need > > language as a tool to augment their daily work - hence Macros. I can > > include some verbiage he

Re: [BangPypers] python for management studies

2010-06-04 Thread Noufal Ibrahim
On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Venkatraman S wrote: [..] > Do NOT expect MBA grads to *program* - they are decision makers, they need > language as a *tool* to augment their daily work - hence Macros. I can > include some verbiage here reg the MBA mentality in India et al. but thats > cliched!

Re: [BangPypers] python for management studies

2010-06-04 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Fri, Jun 04, 2010 at 12:55:19PM +0530, Venkatraman S wrote: > > Do NOT expect MBA grads to *program* - they are decision makers, they need Be whatever, even if you are president of a company and *want* to write a small program to move files around or add your salary, you better know the basics

Re: [BangPypers] python for management studies

2010-06-04 Thread Venkatraman S
On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 12:47 PM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 12:32 PM, Venkatraman S wrote: > > I would recommend starting with http://alpha.djangogenerator.com/ to get > a > > feel of an 'application'. > > It might be just me but I think this is an *extremely* bad idea. > > I

Re: [BangPypers] python for management studies

2010-06-04 Thread Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy
>Getting an application up and running with a few >clicks of a mouse has the same effect as eating junk food. Your >appetite goes away, you can claim that you've eaten something but >there's close to zero nourishment. I love this analogy.gr8. +1 for all of your points. Regards, Srini T. --The r

Re: [BangPypers] python for management studies

2010-06-04 Thread Noufal Ibrahim
On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 12:32 PM, Venkatraman S wrote: > I would recommend starting with http://alpha.djangogenerator.com/ to get a > feel of an 'application'. It might be just me but I think this is an *extremely* bad idea. I just tried the site and it looks like a nice point and click wizard to

Re: [BangPypers] python for management studies

2010-06-04 Thread Venkatraman S
I would recommend starting with http://alpha.djangogenerator.com/ to get a feel of an 'application'. -V- http://twitter.com/venkasub ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers

Re: [BangPypers] python for management studies

2010-06-03 Thread Noufal Ibrahim
On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 10:16 AM, Senthil Kumaran wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 03, 2010 at 10:49:59PM +0530, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > > I have been commissioned to create and implement a course (compulsory with 2 > > credits for first semester) on computer programming for business managers > > for > >

Re: [BangPypers] python for management studies

2010-06-03 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Thu, Jun 03, 2010 at 10:49:59PM +0530, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > I have been commissioned to create and implement a course (compulsory with 2 > credits for first semester) on computer programming for business managers for > MBA's in a new B school that is starting up. I envisage something lik

Re: [BangPypers] python for management studies

2010-06-03 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Friday 04 June 2010 08:37:07 Siddharta G wrote: > Agree with Noufal. The course should be tailored to how we expect them to > use it later on. > > The goal shouldn't be to make them programmers. I would think it should > focus on helping them solve bits and pieces problems that they might > enc

Re: [BangPypers] python for management studies

2010-06-03 Thread Siddharta G
On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 12:05 AM, Venkatraman S wrote: > On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 11:20 PM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > > > What's the intention of the course? The structure of the course would > > depend on that methinks. Is it to > > - Give the students some programming skills so that they can use t

Re: [BangPypers] python for management studies

2010-06-03 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Thursday 03 June 2010 23:04:01 Pradeep Gowda wrote: > > I have been commissioned to create and implement a course (compulsory > > with 2 credits for first semester) on computer programming for business > > managers for MBA's in a new B school that is starting up. I envisage > > something like th

Re: [BangPypers] python for management studies

2010-06-03 Thread Venkatraman S
On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 11:20 PM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > What's the intention of the course? The structure of the course would > depend on that methinks. Is it to > - Give the students some programming skills so that they can use them > if needed for their actual work. > - Appreciate the finer

Re: [BangPypers] python for management studies

2010-06-03 Thread Noufal Ibrahim
On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 10:49 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > > hi, > > I have been commissioned to create and implement a course (compulsory with 2 > credits for first semester) on computer programming for business managers for > MBA's in a new B school that is starting up. I envisage something lik

Re: [BangPypers] python for management studies

2010-06-03 Thread Pradeep Gowda
On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 1:34 PM, Pradeep Gowda wrote: > On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 1:19 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: >> hi, >> >> I have been commissioned to create and implement a course (compulsory with 2 >> credits for first semester) on computer programming for business managers for >> MBA's in a

Re: [BangPypers] python for management studies

2010-06-03 Thread Pradeep Gowda
On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 1:19 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > hi, > > I have been commissioned to create and implement a course (compulsory with 2 > credits for first semester) on computer programming for business managers for > MBA's in a new B school that is starting up. I envisage something like t

[BangPypers] python for management studies

2010-06-03 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
hi, I have been commissioned to create and implement a course (compulsory with 2 credits for first semester) on computer programming for business managers for MBA's in a new B school that is starting up. I envisage something like the nltk tutorial. Ideas and suggestions please. I will, of cours