On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 1:19 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai
wrote:
[...]
> So an approximate rule of thumb would be,
>
> 1. If your data is highly structured and you have complex queries
> and your clients expect consistent results, stick to RDBMs.
> 2. If your data is more like a simple key-value
I am sure many of you must have gone through this discussion, but sharing
it anyway since I liked the analogy he makes with SQL against NoSQL
compared to transmission in cars.
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2559411/sql-mysql-vs-nosql-couchdb
It might be a cliche, but I kind of feel the curren
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 8:33 AM, Ramdas S wrote:
>
>
> Thought I will pick your brains on this.
>
> We are archiving a lot of information, some message format very similar to
> email in structure, through its not an RFC complaint format. Presently we
> are storing some basic seachable details in
> And that's the reason some people dont ever use the term 'noSQL' because it
> sounds like 'No SQL' and if they must they say 'noSQL' stands for 'not only
> SQL' and not what it sounds.
>
> /
>
I think people understands 'NoSQL' in a wrong way. 'NoSQL' stands for 'Not
only SQL' . The advantage
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 01:08, Jeffrey Jose wrote:
> Its kinda true that noSQL started as 'death to everything that's SQL'. As
> things got matured people realized noSQL is not a replacement but another
> tool in developers toolbox to solve problems.
I grok the 'use the right tool' as per the req
< have you try even BIG QUERY service from Google as Trusted Tester?
< than you will find out your answer definitely?
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 11:44 AM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 13 2011, Santosh Rajan wrote:
>
> > Google has BigTable as its nosql implementation. You would think that,
>
On Sun, Feb 13 2011, Santosh Rajan wrote:
> Google has BigTable as its nosql implementation. You would think that,
> for a mission critical massive scale operation like Google adwords,
> Google uses BigTable right? Wrong! They use MySQL.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AdWords#Technology
>
> Google
Google has BigTable as its nosql implementation. You would think that,
for a mission critical massive scale operation like Google adwords,
Google uses BigTable right? Wrong! They use MySQL.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AdWords#Technology
Google see's so much value with what works, that in fact the
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 6:38 AM, Jeffrey Jose wrote:
> Its kinda true that noSQL started as 'death to everything that's SQL'. As
> things got matured people realized noSQL is not a replacement but another
> tool in developers toolbox to solve problems.
>
> And that's the reason some people dont ev
Its kinda true that noSQL started as 'death to everything that's SQL'. As
things got matured people realized noSQL is not a replacement but another
tool in developers toolbox to solve problems.
And that's the reason some people dont ever use the term 'noSQL' because it
sounds like 'No SQL' and if
On Sat, Feb 12 2011, Santosh Rajan wrote:
> My 2 cents before you jump into the nosql bandwagon.
>
> 1) If sql works for you, stick with it. RDBMS's like postgeSQL, MySQL
> will not wake you up in the middle of the night with a crash.
> 2) If you have scaling problems, add some horse power to you
Hi Santosh,
Thanks for sharing your 2 cents! So if I understand your statements
correctly, you are saying RBMS/SQL is the "silver-bullet" to all of our data
related problems? I am extremely curious to know what kind of _real_
experiences with NoSQL led you to form your opinion about NoSQL in gener
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 10:30 PM, Santosh Rajan wrote:
> My 2 cents before you jump into the nosql bandwagon.
[...]
> 4) And if you still think you need nosql, god help you.
All of the above were fair comments, until this last.
I think that you might need to re-investigate your own
biases. Contr
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 10:30 PM, Santosh Rajan wrote:
> My 2 cents before you jump into the nosql bandwagon.
>
> 1) If sql works for you, stick with it. RDBMS's like postgeSQL, MySQL
> will not wake you up in the middle of the night with a crash.
> 2) If you have scaling problems, add some horse
My 2 cents before you jump into the nosql bandwagon.
1) If sql works for you, stick with it. RDBMS's like postgeSQL, MySQL
will not wake you up in the middle of the night with a crash.
2) If you have scaling problems, add some horse power to you hardware,
battery backed RAID, and solid state hard
On Sat, Feb 12 2011, Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 12 2011, Baiju M wrote:
>
>> I just started from home (Banashankari), will reach the meeting place
>> (Domlur) aroud 4pm.
>
> [...]
>
> I'll be there slightly after 4.
We had a fun little meeting. Sorted out some task for the getpython3
we
On Sat, Feb 12 2011, Baiju M wrote:
> I just started from home (Banashankari), will reach the meeting place
> (Domlur) aroud 4pm.
[...]
I'll be there slightly after 4.
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On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 9:18 AM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
>> Sidu is no longer with TW. I have Sriram's number. I will call him in
>> the morning tomorrow and mail the list. I'm not sure if the venue will
>> be available though. Sorry I didn't do this earlier. I was occuppied
>> with the PyCon busine
On Fri, Feb 11 2011, Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
[...]
> Sidu is no longer with TW. I have Sriram's number. I will call him in
> the morning tomorrow and mail the list. I'm not sure if the venue will
> be available though. Sorry I didn't do this earlier. I was occuppied
> with the PyCon business and
On Fri, Feb 11 2011, Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 11 2011, Baiju M wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 5:51 PM, Baiju M wrote:
>>> On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 12:03 PM, devjyoti patra wrote:
Hi All,
Is tomorrow's meet confirmed? Anyone please post the details for the
meet-
On Fri, Feb 11 2011, Baiju M wrote:
[...]
> I can see the current month archive size has become 33 KB now :)
> http://mail.python.org/pipermail/inpycon/
[...]
Nice metric. :)
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On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 10:29 PM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
> Sidu is no longer with TW. I have Sriram's number. I will call him in
> the morning tomorrow and mail the list. I'm not sure if the venue will
> be available though.
That's fine.
> Sorry I didn't do this earlier. I was occuppied
> with
On Fri, Feb 11 2011, Baiju M wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 5:51 PM, Baiju M wrote:
>> On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 12:03 PM, devjyoti patra wrote:
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> Is tomorrow's meet confirmed? Anyone please post the details for the
>>> meet-venue and time if things have changed from this
>>> h
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 5:51 PM, Baiju M wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 12:03 PM, devjyoti patra wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Is tomorrow's meet confirmed? Anyone please post the details for the
>> meet-venue and time if things have changed from this
>> http://doodle.com/53iqx4gdu5fuzws7
>
> The mee
+sriram@thoughtworks.
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 5:51 PM, Baiju M wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 12:03 PM, devjyoti patra
> wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Is tomorrow's meet confirmed? Anyone please post the details for the
> > meet-venue and time if things have changed from this
> > http://doodle.c
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 12:03 PM, devjyoti patra wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Is tomorrow's meet confirmed? Anyone please post the details for the
> meet-venue and time if things have changed from this
> http://doodle.com/53iqx4gdu5fuzws7
The meeting will be there. But, we didn't got a confirmation abou
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> 1. Re: BangPypers meeting February 2011 (Baiju M)
>
Hi All,
Majority of the people are fine with Feb 12th (Saturday):
http://doodle.com/53iqx4gdu5fuzws7
So, we will have a regular meeting at 3 pm on that day.
If more people are interested we can have a sprint
otherwise we will go for normal discussions.
Can anyone from ThoughtWorks confirm the ve
On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 8:03 PM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
>> These are the topics I am interested to listen:
>>
>> 1. Using MongoDB with Python
>> 2. Python 3 porting experience
>> 3. Using Jenkins/Hudson for continuous integration
>>
>> Well, I cannot present on any of these topics :)
>
> [...]
>
> N
On Fri, Feb 04 2011, Baiju M wrote:
[...]
> It looks like majority of the people prefer Feb 12th (Saturday):
> http://doodle.com/53iqx4gdu5fuzws7
> We can finalize the date by next Tuesday (Feb 8th)
> based on the majority preference.
>
> Meanwhile let's discuss about the agenda for the meeting.
On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 12:22 PM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 04 2011, Baiju M wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Let's have a meeting this month ? I have created a Doodle for this:
>> http://doodle.com/53iqx4gdu5fuzws7
>> Please add your convenient dates.
>>
>> We can meet at ThoughtWorks place: h
On Fri, Feb 04 2011, Baiju M wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Let's have a meeting this month ? I have created a Doodle for this:
> http://doodle.com/53iqx4gdu5fuzws7
> Please add your convenient dates.
>
> We can meet at ThoughtWorks place: http://goo.gl/AmDA9
> If they have any inconvenience, we can move s
Hi All,
Let's have a meeting this month ? I have created a Doodle for this:
http://doodle.com/53iqx4gdu5fuzws7
Please add your convenient dates.
We can meet at ThoughtWorks place: http://goo.gl/AmDA9
If they have any inconvenience, we can move some other place.
Regards,
Baiju M
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 2:57 PM, mujeesh.v.s wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Where you guys are going to meet.Can I join in this meeting
Everyone is welcome to BangPypers meeting. This month's meeting
date is not finalized yet.
Regards,
Baiju M
Hi,
Where you guys are going to meet.Can I join in this meeting
Mujeesh.v.s
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On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 11:47 AM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
> X-posting to inpycon since the meeting was mostly PyCon related.
>
> Hello everyone,
> This are the rough minutes of the meeting at ThoughtWorks on 11/Oct
Forgot one more more point which is to schedule a regular BangPypers
X-posting to inpycon since the meeting was mostly PyCon related.
Hello everyone,
This are the rough minutes of the meeting at ThoughtWorks on 11/Oct
Apart from the technical tidbits, we mostly discussed the conference
and related matters.
Items discussed
- Send a mail using the site bulkmailer
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai
wrote:
[..]
> I think we should have a f2f meeting
> of those who are interested to organize and be part of the "core secret
> committee" :-)
Yes. I will put up the minutes before then.
As for the face to face meeting, I'll bring the bag
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai
wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
>> Hello folks,
>> I will upload the meeting minutes later tonight. Haven't had time
>> to sift through the logs.
>>
>> Are we having another IRC gathering tonight?
>
> Is
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
> Hello folks,
> I will upload the meeting minutes later tonight. Haven't had time
> to sift through the logs.
>
> Are we having another IRC gathering tonight?
Isn't that too much back to back ? Why don't we instead keep next Tuesday ?
On
Hello folks,
I will upload the meeting minutes later tonight. Haven't had time
to sift through the logs.
Are we having another IRC gathering tonight?
Thanks.
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Greetings all,
The meeting on Feb 21 went well. We had a couple of quick presentations
and some discussions about testing tools that thought works was developing.
I've put up the "minutes" (for want of a better term) on
http://wiki.python.org/moin/BangPypers/Meeting21Feb2009
We thought it
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