On Wed, 2010-10-20 at 18:33 +0530, Azhagu Selvan SP wrote:
> > 4th time this message has hit the list (I think something has gone
> wrong
> > somewhere - either in this list or in gmail)
>
> Some problem with your mail server I suppose. I received it only once
> and there is a single message in th
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 6:51 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai
wrote:
> 3. If you have any experience with countless other Python concurrency
> libraries for solving problems like this ?
I recently had chance to use twisted.internet.task.Cooperator for
doing a large file transfers in parallel with ha
Talking of co-operating "threads", I like the idea of greenthreads
implemented with the help of greenlets[1] in eventlet [2]. Another
similar library is gevent[3] that uses a "hub" like eventlet but that
purely uses libevent. You can leave the scheduling upto the hubs in
both these libraries which
On 10/20/2010 04:57 PM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
The project management thread highlighted this issue of "if it's not in
Python, I don't want to use it".
Assuming that most of the people here are mostly python enthusiasts or
learners, I'm wondering when you would *not* use Python. Let's not
confla
On Wed, Oct 20 2010, Dark Seid wrote:
[...]
> By and large though, my primary driver is productivity. I don't care
> about much else. If it's more productive (for me), I'll adopt it,
> whether it's a OS, language, library, tool, community or
> methodology. Examples for me where I've made switches
First of all I don't like java, and just like the author suggested Clojure
is tightly coupled to java. However even if you don't know java you still
can program in clojure like I do. My motivation to learn clojure was
entirely due to Eric Raymond's quote. Of course I could have learned any
other "L
On Wed, Oct 20 2010, steve wrote:
> On 10/20/2010 05:38 PM, Gopalakrishnan Subramani wrote:
>> I won't develop DESKTOP based application in Python. Desktop means
>> non-browser based application but like MFC/VC++ stuffs.
>>
>
> Interesting. Not that I know anything about MFC/VC++ but in the linux
On Wed, Oct 20 2010, Anand Balachandran Pillai wrote:
[...]
> Maybe for "rough" n "dirty" use-once-and-throw parsers,
[...]
Exactly. My point is that there are good use cases for it as there are
for most languages and sticking to a langauge just because one has some
kind of emotional attachme
I am not sure how many of you have had a chance to
use generators to implement "co-operating" aka "micro"
threads in Python.
Dr. David Mertz gives a good introduction to the topic in his
charming Python article here.
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-pythrd.html
The other day I had a p
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 6:24 PM, steve wrote:
> On 10/20/2010 05:38 PM, Gopalakrishnan Subramani wrote:
>
>> I won't develop DESKTOP based application in Python. Desktop means
>> non-browser based application but like MFC/VC++ stuffs.
>>
>>
>
The thumbrule is language is not important, if we need
On Wed, 2010-10-20 at 17:47 +0530, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-10-20 at 17:34 +0530, Santosh Rajan wrote:
> > I have learned and use Clojure a dialect of Lisp for some odd jobs
> > just for
> > this reason.
>
> 4th time this message has hit the list (I think something has gone wrong
>
Hi,
On 10/20/2010 05:34 PM, Santosh Rajan wrote:
I have a slightly tangential take on this subject. I do web development and
it is entirely python nowadays. Having said that let me quote Eric Raymond.
*"Lisp is worth learning for the profound enlightenment experience you will
have when you final
On 10/20/2010 05:38 PM, Gopalakrishnan Subramani wrote:
I won't develop DESKTOP based application in Python. Desktop means
non-browser based application but like MFC/VC++ stuffs.
Interesting. Not that I know anything about MFC/VC++ but in the linux world a
fairly large number of desktop apps
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
>> I agree. As the Perl monks put it, use the right tool for the right
>> job.
>> You should know when to stop looking for a programming language
>> specific
>> solution.
>
> 9th time this message has come
I have got it once, just once.
T
On Wed, 2010-10-20 at 17:34 +0530, Santosh Rajan wrote:
> I have learned and use Clojure a dialect of Lisp for some odd jobs
> just for
> this reason.
4th time this message has hit the list (I think something has gone wrong
somewhere - either in this list or in gmail)
--
regards
Kenneth Gonsalve
On Wed, 2010-10-20 at 17:22 +0530, Sudheer Satyanarayana wrote:
> > Comments?
> >
> >
> I agree. As the Perl monks put it, use the right tool for the right
> job.
> You should know when to stop looking for a programming language
> specific
> solution.
9th time this message has come
--
rega
On Wed, 2010-10-20 at 17:22 +0530, Sudheer Satyanarayana wrote:
> > Comments?
> >
> >
> I agree. As the Perl monks put it, use the right tool for the right
> job.
> You should know when to stop looking for a programming language
> specific
> solution.
ok - but why repeat your mail as many 6
I was wondering if I should bring this up because I was curious, but then
decided not to because it's also a sensitive subject.
> The only reason I'd stay away from
> something like this is if I needed to work on it's code and it was in a
> language that I wasn't familiar with and didn't have the
I won't develop DESKTOP based application in Python. Desktop means
non-browser based application but like MFC/VC++ stuffs.
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 5:28 PM, Senthil Kumaran wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 04:57:52PM +0530, Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
> > learners, I'm wondering when you would *not* u
I have a slightly tangential take on this subject. I do web development and
it is entirely python nowadays. Having said that let me quote Eric Raymond.
*"Lisp is worth learning for the profound enlightenment experience you will
have when you finally get it; that experience will make you a better
pr
I'm just interested in situations where you'd stay away from something
*just* because it isn't in Python. The only reason I'd stay away from
something like this is if I needed to work on it's code and it was in a
language that I wasn't familiar with and didn't have the time to learn.
Also, ther
On Wed, Oct 20 2010, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-10-20 at 13:48 +0530, Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
>> However, both of these are 'mostly' bug trackers or at best software
>> project management tools. You mentioned that you're looking for
>> something more general. Would something like a inte
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 04:57:52PM +0530, Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
> learners, I'm wondering when you would *not* use Python. Let's not
When there is an extreme need for speed for processing large data
sets.
When it is more CPU intensive than Network IO Intensive.
When the libraries and packages avai
On Wed, 2010-10-20 at 17:23 +0530, Anand Balachandran Pillai wrote:
> If you don't "feel" agile, just do this before starting to code
> on your Python prompt.
>
> >>> import antigravity
I wish I could do that to my golf ball
--
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Senior Associate
NRC-FOSS at AU-KBC
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 4:57 PM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
>
> The project management thread highlighted this issue of "if it's not in
> Python, I don't want to use it".
>
> Assuming that most of the people here are mostly python enthusiasts or
> learners, I'm wondering when you would *not* use Pytho
On Wed, 2010-10-20 at 16:57 +0530, Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
> I'm just interested in situations where you'd stay away from something
> *just* because it isn't in Python. The only reason I'd stay away from
> something like this is if I needed to work on it's code and it was in
> a
> language that I was
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 2:58 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-10-20 at 13:19 +0530, Dark Seid wrote:
> > If you're looking for a task manager, I've had extremely good
> > experiences
> > with Pivotal Tracker
>
> agile? I forgot to mention that I suffer from arthritis so cannot do
> agil
On Wed, 2010-10-20 at 13:48 +0530, Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
> However, both of these are 'mostly' bug trackers or at best software
> project management tools. You mentioned that you're looking for
> something more general. Would something like a internal wiki work
> better?
it is not software manage
On Wed, 2010-10-20 at 13:19 +0530, Dark Seid wrote:
> If you're looking for a task manager, I've had extremely good
> experiences
> with Pivotal Tracker
agile? I forgot to mention that I suffer from arthritis so cannot do
agile ;-)
--
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Senior Associate
NRC-FOSS at AU-KBC
The project management thread highlighted this issue of "if it's not in
Python, I don't want to use it".
Assuming that most of the people here are mostly python enthusiasts or
learners, I'm wondering when you would *not* use Python. Let's not
conflate this with Open Source/Closed Source etc.
I'
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 1:31 PM, Sreekanth S Rameshaiah wrote:
> On 20 October 2010 12:23, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 2010-10-20 at 11:57 +0530, JAGANADH G wrote:
> > > > heard good things about it - but as you said it is built on Ruby - I
> > > > want python.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
>
On Wed, Oct 20 2010, Nigel Babu wrote:
[...]
> I plead guilty. But yeah, I'm looking forward to something other than
> trac but built on python too. I'm still yet to find it and unsure if
> its worth the effort.
[...]
Trac is nice but with things like github, bitbucket etc. out there, it
has
On 20 October 2010 12:23, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-10-20 at 11:57 +0530, JAGANADH G wrote:
> > > heard good things about it - but as you said it is built on Ruby - I
> > > want python.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Even if it is in Ruby it is good. I am using it to manage my team
> > activit
'even if it's on Ruby?' :D
If you're looking for a task manager, I've had extremely good experiences
with Pivotal Tracker (which is hosted and free), so much so that we now even
use it for our recruiting pipeline at C42 Engineering. If I had lots of $$$
to burn I'd use ThoughtWorks' Mingle but hey
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 12:40 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai <
abpil...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 11:57 AM, JAGANADH G wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves > >wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, 2010-10-20 at 10:49 +0530, Nigel Babu wrote:
> > > > Have you tried
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 11:57 AM, JAGANADH G wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves >wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 2010-10-20 at 10:49 +0530, Nigel Babu wrote:
> > > Have you tried Redmine? Its built on ruby and I was recommended it
> > > multiple
> > > times. Not sure how good it
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