Re: [Bacula-users] These messages from Bacula are useless

2006-08-03 Thread Jo Rhett
On Thu, Aug 03, 2006 at 12:05:38PM +0100, Alan Brown wrote: > In any case it is _unlikely_ that it will make any appearance in 1.38 at > all unless someone backports it. > My coding skills are lousy. I'm prepared to wait. I wasn't pushing for a fix. I've already patched the local message. I jus

Re: [Bacula-users] These messages from Bacula are useless

2006-08-03 Thread Alan Brown
On Wed, 2 Aug 2006, Dan Langille wrote: > Jo, quite simply, you are a damn pain in the ass. If a developer > does not want to do the fix, there's nothing you can do. Leave it > alone. I've had this in as a _polite_ request to Kern for a couple of weeks, and there's a feature request filed for

Re: [Bacula-users] These messages from Bacula are useless

2006-08-03 Thread Alan Brown
On Wed, 2 Aug 2006, Jo Rhett wrote: >> In the case of mismatched file daemons it's easy enough to work out which >> one is playing up by running "status client" on each one. > > Nope. No configuration changes since I got that message, and no repeats of > the message. "status client" worked on e

Re: [Bacula-users] These messages from Bacula are useless

2006-08-02 Thread Jo Rhett
On Aug 2, 2006, at 11:58 AM, Dan Langille wrote: > You still have a way to go. Keep at it. You have a lot of ground to > make up. You made your bed, etc... it'll take a while for people to > adjust to the new you. It's not a new me. I never was insulting to anyone who didn't start in on me f

Re: [Bacula-users] These messages from Bacula are useless

2006-08-02 Thread Dan Langille
On 2 Aug 2006 at 11:55, Jo Rhett wrote: > > On 2 Aug 2006 at 11:44, Jo Rhett wrote: > >> What's the chance you'll stop with the personal attacks? > > On Aug 2, 2006, at 11:50 AM, Dan Langille wrote: > > What's the chance that you'll realise you're the problem? > > > > Please, if one person tells

Re: [Bacula-users] These messages from Bacula are useless

2006-08-02 Thread Jo Rhett
> On 2 Aug 2006 at 11:44, Jo Rhett wrote: >> What's the chance you'll stop with the personal attacks? On Aug 2, 2006, at 11:50 AM, Dan Langille wrote: > What's the chance that you'll realise you're the problem? > > Please, if one person tells you that you're a problem, ignore them. > If several sa

Re: [Bacula-users] These messages from Bacula are useless

2006-08-02 Thread Jo Rhett
On Aug 2, 2006, at 11:46 AM, R.I. Pienaar wrote: > I understand, but I don't think youre incredibly attacking and bashing > attitude is going to make anyone eager to actually do the 5 minutes of > work, so I guess you're left with the 5 hours option. I was neither attacking nor bashing. I reporte

Re: [Bacula-users] These messages from Bacula are useless

2006-08-02 Thread Dan Langille
On 2 Aug 2006 at 11:44, Jo Rhett wrote: > On Aug 2, 2006, at 11:36 AM, Dan Langille wrote: > > Jo, quite simply, you are a damn pain in the ass. If a developer > > does not want to do the fix, there's nothing you can do. Leave it > > alone. > > The developer didn't suggest that as a fix, someon

Re: [Bacula-users] These messages from Bacula are useless

2006-08-02 Thread R.I. Pienaar
On 02/08/06, Jo Rhett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Let's think about effort versus reward: > > 1. Fix to include the FD in question in the log : 5 minutes to write, > perhaps even less. > > 2. Change the logging on every system > -AND- > Every time I see this error, send a message out t

Re: [Bacula-users] These messages from Bacula are useless

2006-08-02 Thread Jo Rhett
On Aug 2, 2006, at 11:36 AM, Dan Langille wrote: > Jo, quite simply, you are a damn pain in the ass. If a developer > does not want to do the fix, there's nothing you can do. Leave it > alone. The developer didn't suggest that as a fix, someone else did. I politely replied to let him/her know

Re: [Bacula-users] These messages from Bacula are useless

2006-08-02 Thread Dan Langille
On 2 Aug 2006 at 11:32, Jo Rhett wrote: > Let's think about effort versus reward: > > 1. Fix to include the FD in question in the log : 5 minutes to write, > perhaps even less. > > 2. Change the logging on every system > -AND- > Every time I see this error, send a message out to ever

Re: [Bacula-users] These messages from Bacula are useless

2006-08-02 Thread Jo Rhett
Let's think about effort versus reward: 1. Fix to include the FD in question in the log : 5 minutes to write, perhaps even less. 2. Change the logging on every system -AND- Every time I see this error, send a message out to every team with servers to administer and ask them if the

Re: [Bacula-users] These messages from Bacula are useless

2006-08-02 Thread Jo Rhett
>>> Can we get it fixed? > On Wed, 2 Aug 2006, Kern Sibbald wrote: >> If it isn't already fixed, then it will be some time unless >> someone sends a >> patch since it is not on the top of my priority list which is >> already too >> long. Generally one knows exactly which daemon you are dealing

Re: [Bacula-users] These messages from Bacula are useless

2006-08-02 Thread Jo Rhett
On Aug 1, 2006, at 5:48 PM, Kern Sibbald wrote: > long. Generally one knows exactly which daemon you are dealing with > from the > context unless you are driving the console with a script. These messages were e-mailed to me. No other context is provided. Message settings at default / standar

Re: [Bacula-users] These messages from Bacula are useless

2006-08-02 Thread Alan Brown
On Wed, 2 Aug 2006, R.I. Pienaar wrote: > it's not optimal Indeed: Multiple concurrent jobs on the same FD are still not easily distinguishable. > but you can get each FD to write a log on its own box > by adding an append directive to its messages settings. --

Re: [Bacula-users] These messages from Bacula are useless

2006-08-02 Thread R.I. Pienaar
hello, it's not optimal but you can get each FD to write a log on its own box by adding an append directive to its messages settings. On 02/08/06, Alan Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 2 Aug 2006, Kern Sibbald wrote: > > >> Kern, is this fixed in a newer version? > > > > I believe more

Re: [Bacula-users] These messages from Bacula are useless

2006-08-02 Thread Alan Brown
On Wed, 2 Aug 2006, Kern Sibbald wrote: >> Kern, is this fixed in a newer version? > > I believe more information is printed in 1.39.x, but there are so many changes > that I cannot remember the exact case that was enhanced. > >> Can we get it fixed? > > If it isn't already fixed, then it will be

Re: [Bacula-users] These messages from Bacula are useless

2006-08-01 Thread Kern Sibbald
On Wednesday 02 August 2006 02:25, Jo Rhett wrote: > This will be my third time posting this. I don't answer all message on this list but generally take note of them. > Kern, is this fixed in a newer version? I believe more information is printed in 1.39.x, but there are so many changes t

Re: [Bacula-users] These messages from Bacula are useless

2006-08-01 Thread Jo Rhett
This will be my third time posting this. Kern, is this fixed in a newer version? Can we get it fixed? On Jul 28, 2006, at 10:01 AM, Jo Rhett wrote: > I haven't the foggiest idea which File Daemons it was unable to > communicate with. Can we please expand the error message to include > this in