Re: [Bacula-users] Rif: Re: LTO3 performance

2009-01-09 Thread Ryan Novosielski
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kevin Keane wrote: > Sergio Belkin wrote: >>> Please always respond to the list... >>> >> OK, sorry, I am subscribed to many lists, I don't understand why it >> not working reply... >> > Sourceforge lists are a bit quirky in that when you reply

Re: [Bacula-users] Rif: Re: LTO3 performance

2009-01-09 Thread Chris Hoogendyk
Alan Brown wrote: > On Thu, 8 Jan 2009, Chris Hoogendyk wrote: > >> In other words the length entered in the tapetype definition is only >> used for planning and scheduling. The "error" will normally be the end >> of tape "error", which allows for a variable amount of data actually >> being wr

Re: [Bacula-users] Rif: Re: LTO3 performance

2009-01-09 Thread Ralf Gross
Sergio Belkin schrieb: > Job Report: > > 08-Jan 16:40 DirectorandStorageServerThatHasDat72-dir-dir JobId 1975: > Bacula DirectorandStorageServerThatHasDat72-dir-dir 2.4.2 (26Jul08): > 08-Jan-2009 16:40:04 > Build OS: i686-redhat-linux-gnu redhat > JobId: 1975 >

Re: [Bacula-users] Rif: Re: LTO3 performance

2009-01-09 Thread Sergio Belkin
More info about this issue: Using speedometer during a backup I get this measures: Server that has Director and Dat 72 TX: 7KB/s RX: 1,5KB/s Server that has LTO3: TX:290 KB/s RX:3.6 KB/s Bacula Client: TX:1.74 MB/s RX:192 KB/s Could be the Director server the bottleneck? Is precisely th

Re: [Bacula-users] Rif: Re: LTO3 performance

2009-01-09 Thread Robert LeBlanc
> > Hi I really appreciate the discussion about advantages and > disadvantages of compression. But please bear in mind that I am not > using compression *in anyway*. So please could you help me to solve > this problem. Below I let you config files (a bit shortened and > changed in obvious parts l

Re: [Bacula-users] Rif: Re: LTO3 performance

2009-01-09 Thread Sergio Belkin
2009/1/8 Chris Hoogendyk : > > > Alan Brown wrote: >> On Wed, 7 Jan 2009, Chris Hoogendyk wrote: >> >>> Most backup software leaves the responsibility for planning more in the >>> sysadmin's hands. If the software is just writing data to the tape until >>> it hits the end of tape and then asking fo

Re: [Bacula-users] Rif: Re: LTO3 performance

2009-01-09 Thread Alan Brown
On Thu, 8 Jan 2009, Chris Hoogendyk wrote: > In other words the length entered in the tapetype definition is only > used for planning and scheduling. The "error" will normally be the end > of tape "error", which allows for a variable amount of data actually > being written to the tape, which would

Re: [Bacula-users] Rif: Re: LTO3 performance

2009-01-08 Thread Chris Hoogendyk
Alan Brown wrote: > On Wed, 7 Jan 2009, Chris Hoogendyk wrote: > >> Most backup software leaves the responsibility for planning more in the >> sysadmin's hands. If the software is just writing data to the tape until >> it hits the end of tape and then asking for another, hardware >> compressio

Re: [Bacula-users] Rif: Re: LTO3 performance

2009-01-08 Thread Alan Brown
On Wed, 7 Jan 2009, John Drescher wrote: > Do they even say this for LTO4? I mean I have not seen a CPU can > compress any where near 120MB/s. I was about to suggest a CUDA setup, but they're only really suitable for massive or embarrassingly parallel setups, not high speed single threading stuff

Re: [Bacula-users] Rif: Re: LTO3 performance

2009-01-08 Thread Alan Brown
On Wed, 7 Jan 2009, Chris Hoogendyk wrote: > Most backup software leaves the responsibility for planning more in the > sysadmin's hands. If the software is just writing data to the tape until > it hits the end of tape and then asking for another, hardware > compression is a logical choice. Part o

Re: [Bacula-users] Rif: Re: LTO3 performance

2009-01-08 Thread Alan Brown
On Wed, 7 Jan 2009, T. Horsnell wrote: > It seemed to me that hardware compression could result in the tapedrive > mechanism not being fed data fast enough to keep it streaming at full speed, > since the records may be shortened by the compression process, whereupon > it would slow down a bit by

Re: [Bacula-users] Rif: Re: LTO3 performance

2009-01-08 Thread Alan Brown
On Wed, 7 Jan 2009, Craig White wrote: > funny thing is that amanda developers are adamant that you disable > hardware compression and use software compression instead. Amanda devs are adament about a few things and aren't always correct Hardware compression on older technologies left a lot to b

Re: [Bacula-users] Rif: Re: LTO3 performance

2009-01-08 Thread Chris Hoogendyk
John Drescher wrote: Yes, but most people use hardware compresion with LTO drives. Sooner or later he has to test the drive with compression. >>> >>> funny thing is that amanda developers are adamant that you disable >>> hardware compression and use software comp

Re: [Bacula-users] Rif: Re: LTO3 performance

2009-01-07 Thread John Drescher
>>> Yes, but most people use hardware compresion with LTO drives. Sooner >>> or later he has to test the drive with compression. >>> >> >> funny thing is that amanda developers are adamant that you disable >> hardware compression and use software compression instead. >> Do they even say this

Re: [Bacula-users] Rif: Re: LTO3 performance

2009-01-07 Thread Chris Hoogendyk
Craig White wrote: > On Wed, 2009-01-07 at 17:57 +0100, Ralf Gross wrote: > >> T. Horsnell schrieb: >> >>> Ralf Gross wrote: >>> Ferdinando Pasqualetti schrieb: > I think you should use /dev/random, not /dev/zero unless hardware > compression is disabled

Re: [Bacula-users] Rif: Re: LTO3 performance

2009-01-07 Thread Kevin Keane
Sergio Belkin wrote: >> Please always respond to the list... >> > > OK, sorry, I am subscribed to many lists, I don't understand why it > not working reply... > Sourceforge lists are a bit quirky in that when you reply, it puts the original sender (in this email, Sergio) rather than the ma

Re: [Bacula-users] Rif: Re: LTO3 performance

2009-01-07 Thread T. Horsnell
Craig White wrote: > On Wed, 2009-01-07 at 17:57 +0100, Ralf Gross wrote: >> T. Horsnell schrieb: >>> Ralf Gross wrote: Ferdinando Pasqualetti schrieb: > I think you should use /dev/random, not /dev/zero unless hardware > compression is disabled in order to have more realistic figures

Re: [Bacula-users] Rif: Re: LTO3 performance

2009-01-07 Thread Sergio Belkin
2009/1/7 Ralf Gross : > Sergio Belkin schrieb: >> 2009/1/7 Ralf Gross : >> > T. Horsnell schrieb: >> >> Ralf Gross wrote: >> >> > Ferdinando Pasqualetti schrieb: >> >> >> I think you should use /dev/random, not /dev/zero unless hardware >> >> >> compression is disabled in order to have more realist

Re: [Bacula-users] Rif: Re: LTO3 performance

2009-01-07 Thread Ralf Gross
Craig White schrieb: > On Wed, 2009-01-07 at 17:57 +0100, Ralf Gross wrote: > > T. Horsnell schrieb: > > > Ralf Gross wrote: > > > > Ferdinando Pasqualetti schrieb: > > > >> I think you should use /dev/random, not /dev/zero unless hardware > > > >> compression is disabled in order to have more rea

Re: [Bacula-users] Rif: Re: LTO3 performance

2009-01-07 Thread Craig White
On Wed, 2009-01-07 at 17:57 +0100, Ralf Gross wrote: > T. Horsnell schrieb: > > Ralf Gross wrote: > > > Ferdinando Pasqualetti schrieb: > > >> I think you should use /dev/random, not /dev/zero unless hardware > > >> compression is disabled in order to have more realistic figures. > > > > > > This

Re: [Bacula-users] Rif: Re: LTO3 performance

2009-01-07 Thread Ralf Gross
T. Horsnell schrieb: > Ralf Gross wrote: > > Ferdinando Pasqualetti schrieb: > >> I think you should use /dev/random, not /dev/zero unless hardware > >> compression is disabled in order to have more realistic figures. > > > > This wouldn't be a good idea, /dev/random or /dev/urandom are just too

Re: [Bacula-users] Rif: Re: LTO3 performance

2009-01-07 Thread T. Horsnell
Ralf Gross wrote: > Ferdinando Pasqualetti schrieb: >> I think you should use /dev/random, not /dev/zero unless hardware >> compression is disabled in order to have more realistic figures. > > This wouldn't be a good idea, /dev/random or /dev/urandom are just too > slow in generating random data.

Re: [Bacula-users] Rif: Re: LTO3 performance

2009-01-07 Thread Ralf Gross
Ferdinando Pasqualetti schrieb: > I think you should use /dev/random, not /dev/zero unless hardware > compression is disabled in order to have more realistic figures. This wouldn't be a good idea, /dev/random or /dev/urandom are just too slow in generating random data. To test the nativ speed of