Re: [Bacula-users] Virtual tapes or virtual disks

2022-02-04 Thread Jose Alberto
https://www.bacula.org/whitepapers/CommunityDiskBackup.pdf Other options is to use software for vtl, as you have been told: mhvtl or Quadstor. Each one with its compression algorithm. On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 9:23 AM Peter Milesson via Bacula-users < bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > H

Re: [Bacula-users] Virtual tapes or virtual disks

2022-01-28 Thread Josh Fisher
On 1/27/22 14:45, Pedro Oliveira wrote: Why not use mhtvl or quadstor https://quadstor.com/virtual-tape-library.html http://www.mhvtl.com they are nice solutions and integrate well with Bacula It depends on what is needed. These VTLs are more complex and use a kernel module that I don't t

Re: [Bacula-users] Virtual tapes or virtual disks

2022-01-27 Thread Pedro Oliveira
Why not use mhtvl or quadstor https://quadstor.com/virtual-tape-library.html http://www.mhvtl.com they are nice solutions and integrate well with Bacula Josh Fisher escreveu em qui., 27/01/2022 às 18:50 : > > On 1/26/22 12:42, dmitri maziuk wrote: > > On 2022-01-26 11:06 AM, Peter Milesson

Re: [Bacula-users] Virtual tapes or virtual disks

2022-01-27 Thread Josh Fisher
On 1/26/22 12:42, dmitri maziuk wrote: On 2022-01-26 11:06 AM, Peter Milesson via Bacula-users wrote: ... Your way of explaining the reasoning of why to use smaller file volumes, is very appreciated. ... The only thing I haven't found out is how to preallocate the number of volumes need

Re: [Bacula-users] Virtual tapes or virtual disks

2022-01-26 Thread Josip Deanovic
On 2022-01-26 20:13, dmitri maziuk wrote: On 2022-01-26 12:57 PM, Josip Deanovic wrote: The number of files per directory is far bigger and is unlikely to get reached, especially not for this use case. The limit is one thing, the scaling is another. I agree: 40TB of 10GB files is not enough t

Re: [Bacula-users] Virtual tapes or virtual disks

2022-01-26 Thread dmitri maziuk
On 2022-01-26 12:57 PM, Josip Deanovic wrote: The number of files per directory is far bigger and is unlikely to get reached, especially not for this use case. The limit is one thing, the scaling is another. I agree: 40TB of 10GB files is not enough to see the slow-down on any modern system,

Re: [Bacula-users] Virtual tapes or virtual disks

2022-01-26 Thread Thomas Lohman
I'm having a RAID5 array of about 40TB in size. A separate RAID controller card handles the disks. I'm planning to use the normal ext4 file system. It's standard and well known, most probably not the fastest though. That will not have any great impact, as there is a 4TB NVMe SSD drive, which

Re: [Bacula-users] Virtual tapes or virtual disks

2022-01-26 Thread Josip Deanovic
On 2022-01-26 18:42, dmitri maziuk wrote: If you use actual disks as "magazines" with vchanger, you need to pre-label the volumes. If you use just one big filesystem, you can let bacula do it for you (last I looked that functionality didn't work w/ autochangers). If you use disk "magazines" you

Re: [Bacula-users] Virtual tapes or virtual disks

2022-01-26 Thread dmitri maziuk
On 2022-01-26 11:59 AM, Peter Milesson via Bacula-users wrote: ... I'm having a RAID5 array of about 40TB in size. A separate RAID controller card handles the disks. I'm planning to use the normal ext4 file system. It's standard and well known, most probably not the fastest though. That will

Re: [Bacula-users] Virtual tapes or virtual disks

2022-01-26 Thread Josip Deanovic
On 2022-01-26 18:06, Peter Milesson via Bacula-users wrote: I'm used to fixed volume sizes from the tape drives, I feel comfortable with it, and I do not need to relearn a lot to configure the Bacula system. The only thing I haven't found out is how to preallocate the number of volumes needed. Ma

Re: [Bacula-users] Virtual tapes or virtual disks

2022-01-26 Thread Peter Milesson via Bacula-users
On 26.01.2022 18:42, dmitri maziuk wrote: On 2022-01-26 11:06 AM, Peter Milesson via Bacula-users wrote: ... Your way of explaining the reasoning of why to use smaller file volumes, is very appreciated. ... The only thing I haven't found out is how to preallocate the number of volumes

Re: [Bacula-users] Virtual tapes or virtual disks

2022-01-26 Thread dmitri maziuk
On 2022-01-26 11:06 AM, Peter Milesson via Bacula-users wrote: ... Your way of explaining the reasoning of why to use smaller file volumes, is very appreciated. ... The only thing I haven't found out is how to preallocate the number of volumes needed. Maybe there is no need, if the volumes

Re: [Bacula-users] Virtual tapes or virtual disks

2022-01-26 Thread Peter Milesson via Bacula-users
On 26.01.2022 0:02, Josip Deanovic wrote: On 23.01.2022 11:37, Radosław Korzeniewski wrote: Hello, pt., 21 sty 2022 o 14:22 Peter Milesson via Bacula-users napisał(a):     If somebody has got experience with disk based, multi volume Bacula     backup, I would be grateful about some inform

Re: [Bacula-users] Virtual tapes or virtual disks

2022-01-25 Thread Josip Deanovic
On 23.01.2022 11:37, Radosław Korzeniewski wrote: Hello, pt., 21 sty 2022 o 14:22 Peter Milesson via Bacula-users napisał(a): If somebody has got experience with disk based, multi volume Bacula backup, I would be grateful about some information (tips, what to expect, pitfalls, et

Re: [Bacula-users] Virtual tapes or virtual disks

2022-01-25 Thread Peter Milesson via Bacula-users
incremental backups, each week kept by the differental backups and the 3 full montly too. De : Radosław Korzeniewski Envoyé : dimanche 23 janvier 2022 11:37 À : Peter Milesson Cc : bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net Objet : Re: [Bacula-users] Virtual tapes or virtual disks Hello, pt., 21 sty 2

Re: [Bacula-users] Virtual tapes or virtual disks

2022-01-25 Thread Peter Milesson via Bacula-users
On 23.01.2022 11:37, Radosław Korzeniewski wrote: Hello, pt., 21 sty 2022 o 14:22 Peter Milesson via Bacula-users napisał(a): If somebody has got experience with disk based, multi volume Bacula backup, I would be grateful about some information (tips, what to expect, pitfalls,

Re: [Bacula-users] Virtual tapes or virtual disks

2022-01-25 Thread Lionel PLASSE
27;origine- De : Josh Fisher Envoyé : mardi 25 janvier 2022 15:10 À : Lionel PLASSE ; bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net Objet : Re: [Bacula-users] Virtual tapes or virtual disks On 1/25/22 03:31, Lionel PLASSE wrote: > I’ve made a rotation system like this > > With one Bac

Re: [Bacula-users] Virtual tapes or virtual disks

2022-01-25 Thread Josh Fisher
Re: [Bacula-users] Virtual tapes or virtual disks Hello, pt., 21 sty 2022 o 14:22 Peter Milesson via Bacula-users <mailto:bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net> napisał(a): If somebody has got experience with disk based, multi volume Bacula backup, I would be grateful about some informati

Re: [Bacula-users] Virtual tapes or virtual disks

2022-01-25 Thread Lionel PLASSE
ept by the differental backups and the 3 full montly too. De : Radosław Korzeniewski Envoyé : dimanche 23 janvier 2022 11:37 À : Peter Milesson Cc : bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net Objet : Re: [Bacula-users] Virtual tapes or virtual disks Hello, pt., 21 sty 2022 o 14:22 Peter Milesson via B

Re: [Bacula-users] Virtual tapes or virtual disks

2022-01-23 Thread Radosław Korzeniewski
Hello, pt., 21 sty 2022 o 14:22 Peter Milesson via Bacula-users < bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net> napisał(a): > If somebody has got experience with disk based, multi volume Bacula > backup, I would be grateful about some information (tips, what to > expect, pitfalls, etc.). > The best IMVHO

Re: [Bacula-users] Virtual tapes or virtual disks

2022-01-21 Thread Peter Milesson via Bacula-users
On 21.01.2022 15:46, Josip Deanovic wrote: On 2022-01-21 15:29, Peter Milesson via Bacula-users wrote: thanks for your input. Today, I am using 160GB virtual tape volumes with mhvtl and that seems to be a good trade off. 10GB volumes in the new setting would be a nightmare to manage. That wou

Re: [Bacula-users] Virtual tapes or virtual disks

2022-01-21 Thread Josip Deanovic
On 2022-01-21 15:29, Peter Milesson via Bacula-users wrote: thanks for your input. Today, I am using 160GB virtual tape volumes with mhvtl and that seems to be a good trade off. 10GB volumes in the new setting would be a nightmare to manage. That would be around 3,000 volumes! The volumes will be

Re: [Bacula-users] Virtual tapes or virtual disks

2022-01-21 Thread Peter Milesson via Bacula-users
On 21.01.2022 14:56, Josip Deanovic wrote: On 2022-01-21 14:03, Peter Milesson via Bacula-users wrote: Hi folks, I am building a new backup server that is going to replace the old one. The old backup server uses Bacula ver. 9.2.2 with a virtual tape library (mhvtl). I have found mhvtl a bit

Re: [Bacula-users] Virtual tapes or virtual disks

2022-01-21 Thread Josip Deanovic
On 2022-01-21 14:03, Peter Milesson via Bacula-users wrote: Hi folks, I am building a new backup server that is going to replace the old one. The old backup server uses Bacula ver. 9.2.2 with a virtual tape library (mhvtl). I have found mhvtl a bit tricky, mostly when updating the OS (CentOS 7.8

[Bacula-users] Virtual tapes or virtual disks

2022-01-21 Thread Peter Milesson via Bacula-users
Hi folks, I am building a new backup server that is going to replace the old one. The old backup server uses Bacula ver. 9.2.2 with a virtual tape library (mhvtl). I have found mhvtl a bit tricky, mostly when updating the OS (CentOS 7.8), as it is necessary to recompile the mhvtl kernel driver