Re: [Bacula-users] Strange issue with backup size

2013-04-08 Thread Alberto Caporro
Hi Radosław, > It is not about a file size. All file metadata are unencrypted and > simply > available on the Bacula volume, so you can get it directly from volume > or > catalog. Yes, that's for sure, and being this the scenario, I feel that the sparse file issue has a much lower relevance, a

Re: [Bacula-users] Strange issue with backup size

2013-04-08 Thread Radosław Korzeniewski
Hello, 2013/4/8 Alberto Caporro > I was on the point of making the same exact remark. > > There's for sure a minor information leak (knowing the actual size of a > sparse file), It is not about a file size. All file metadata are unencrypted and simply available on the Bacula volume, so you can

Re: [Bacula-users] Strange issue with backup size

2013-04-08 Thread Radosław Korzeniewski
Hello, 2013/4/7 Adrian Reyer > On Sun, Apr 07, 2013 at 09:03:34PM +0200, Radosław Korzeniewski wrote: > > I think it is not possible to properly handle encrypted sparse data > blocks > > without compromising security. The main data block size is 64kB long, so > > encrypted block should be more t

Re: [Bacula-users] Strange issue with backup size

2013-04-07 Thread Alberto Caporro
t" Sent: Sunday, April 7, 2013 11:48:42 PM Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] Strange issue with backup size On Sun, Apr 07, 2013 at 09:03:34PM +0200, Radosław Korzeniewski wrote: > I think it is not possible to properly handle encrypted sparse data blocks > without compromising security. Th

Re: [Bacula-users] Strange issue with backup size

2013-04-07 Thread Adrian Reyer
On Sun, Apr 07, 2013 at 09:03:34PM +0200, Radosław Korzeniewski wrote: > I think it is not possible to properly handle encrypted sparse data blocks > without compromising security. The main data block size is 64kB long, so > encrypted block should be more than 64kB long. Now, if we have a sparse >

Re: [Bacula-users] Strange issue with backup size

2013-04-07 Thread Radosław Korzeniewski
Hello, 2013/4/7 Alberto Caporro > Hi Marcin, > > you're right, disabling encryption solved the issue. I'll both point out > the lack in documentation and ask for an improvement on this. > > I think it is not possible to properly handle encrypted sparse data blocks without compromising security.

Re: [Bacula-users] Strange issue with backup size

2013-04-07 Thread Marcin Haba
2013/4/7 Alberto Caporro > > Hi Marcin, > > you're right, disabling encryption solved the issue. I'll both point out the > lack in documentation and ask for an improvement on this. Hi Alberto, Great. That's very kind of you :) Regards. Marcin Haba (gani) ---

Re: [Bacula-users] Strange issue with backup size

2013-04-07 Thread Alberto Caporro
;Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net" Sent: Saturday, April 6, 2013 10:39:24 PM Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] Strange issue with backup size 2013/4/6 Alberto Caporro < a.capo...@consulthink.it > Hi everybody, I have an update on this; last night the backup job ran again, this t

Re: [Bacula-users] Strange issue with backup size

2013-04-06 Thread ganiuszka
2013/4/6 Alberto Caporro > Hi everybody, > > I have an update on this; last night the backup job ran again, this time > as an incremental one. The job terminated successfully, but backup size > again doesn't make sense, being roughly 88G (see log at the end of the > mail). > > > Hi, That is beca

Re: [Bacula-users] Strange issue with backup size

2013-04-06 Thread Alberto Caporro
Hi everybody, I have an update on this; last night the backup job ran again, this time as an incremental one. The job terminated successfully, but backup size again doesn't make sense, being roughly 88G (see log at the end of the mail). A few files have changed for sure, being the machine a ma

Re: [Bacula-users] Strange issue with backup size

2013-04-05 Thread Alberto Caporro
Hi Adrian, the "estimate" command gives more or less what I actually get: *estimate job=BackupMailserver Using Catalog "MyCatalog" Connecting to Client mail.lab.retis.it-fd at 10.10.200.10:9102 2000 OK estimate files=417,626 bytes=145,337,578,064 It seems that despite the "sparse = yes" option t

Re: [Bacula-users] Strange issue with backup size

2013-04-05 Thread Adrian Reyer
Hi Alberto, On Fri, Apr 05, 2013 at 12:58:22PM +0200, Alberto Caporro wrote: > Hi Adrian, thanks for your advice, I was actually already thinking of > switching to a full backup strategy; unfortunately that would not solve > tho size issue, which at this point is becoming quite puzzling :-) Sor

Re: [Bacula-users] Strange issue with backup size

2013-04-05 Thread Adrian Reyer
Hi Alberto, On Thu, Apr 04, 2013 at 09:03:51AM +0200, Alberto Caporro wrote: > I backed up our mail server, which is hosted in a virtual machine > with two virtual disks sized at 20G and 200G respectively. I'm only > backing up relevant files (/etc, /root and /opt) and measured on the > server its

Re: [Bacula-users] Strange issue with backup size

2013-04-05 Thread Alberto Caporro
. > > > George. > >> Message du 05/04/13 08:04 >> De : "Alberto Caporro" >> A : "bacula-users" >> Copie à : >> Objet : Re: [Bacula-users] Strange issue with backup size >> > >> Hi Radosław, I had another run this night w

Re: [Bacula-users] Strange issue with backup size

2013-04-05 Thread Alberto Caporro
Hi Adrian, thanks for your advice, I was actually already thinking of switching to a full backup strategy; unfortunately that would not solve tho size issue, which at this point is becoming quite puzzling :-) Cheers, Alberto --- Alberto Caporro Director of Security Services - Consulthink Srl V

Re: [Bacula-users] Strange issue with backup size

2013-04-05 Thread rmdir
to your catalog to request file names and sizes. George. > Message du 05/04/13 08:04 > De : "Alberto Caporro" > A : "bacula-users" > Copie à : > Objet : Re: [Bacula-users] Strange issue with backup size > > Hi Radosław, I had another run this night wi

Re: [Bacula-users] Strange issue with backup size

2013-04-05 Thread Alberto Caporro
Hi, yes I did; show fileset="FileServer" gives *show fileset=FileServer FileSet: name=FileServer O Ss N I /etc I /opt I /root N --- Alberto Caporro Director of Security Services - Consulthink Srl Via dell'Archivio di Stato, 15 00144 Rome, Italy http://www.cons

Re: [Bacula-users] Strange issue with backup size

2013-04-05 Thread Radosław Korzeniewski
Hello, 2013/4/5 Alberto Caporro > > FileSet { > Name = "FileServer" > Include { > Options { > signature = SHA1 > sparse = yes > } > File = /etc > File = /opt > File = /root > > } > } > > * show fileset="FileServer" did you reload your new configuration? be

Re: [Bacula-users] Strange issue with backup size

2013-04-04 Thread Alberto Caporro
Hi Radosław, I had another run this night with the "sparse = yes" option turned on, but it doesn't seem to have solved the issue; backup size is still 145G. My configuration is as follows, do you see anything suspicious? Thanks, Alberto JobDefs { Name = "DefaultJob" Type = Backup Lev

Re: [Bacula-users] Strange issue with backup size

2013-04-04 Thread Alberto Caporro
Bingo! You saved my day, I'd never have thought of this :-) I have a very large (80G) sparse file in the /opt directory, I'm going to take advantage of the "sparse = yes" feature. Thanks again, Alberto --- Alberto Caporro Director of Security Services - Consulthink Srl Via dell'Archivio di Sta

Re: [Bacula-users] Strange issue with backup size

2013-04-04 Thread Radosław Korzeniewski
Hello, 2013/4/4 Alberto Caporro > Hi everybody, > > I've just completed a Bacula deployment within our infrastructure and run > through the first backups; while all of them have completed without any > error, one of the jobs gave results that I find puzzling. > > I backed up our mail server, whi

[Bacula-users] Strange issue with backup size

2013-04-04 Thread Alberto Caporro
Hi everybody, I've just completed a Bacula deployment within our infrastructure and run through the first backups; while all of them have completed without any error, one of the jobs gave results that I find puzzling. I backed up our mail server, which is hosted in a virtual machine with two