Re: [Bacula-users] [Bacula-devel] Feature request: more flexible TLS cert validation

2007-03-16 Thread Josh Fisher
Kern Sibbald wrote: > On Thursday 15 March 2007 16:40, Jorj Bauer wrote: > >>> Bacula does its normal HMAC-MD5 password authentication >>> >> I never meant to imply that it did not, although my message was >> obviously interpreted that way by at least two people. >> >> >>> The FD ad

Re: [Bacula-users] [Bacula-devel] Feature request: more flexible TLS cert validation

2007-03-15 Thread Kern Sibbald
On Thursday 15 March 2007 16:40, Jorj Bauer wrote: > > Bacula does its normal HMAC-MD5 password authentication > > I never meant to imply that it did not, although my message was > obviously interpreted that way by at least two people. > > > The FD address cannot be part of the certificate (CN or a

Re: [Bacula-users] [Bacula-devel] Feature request: more flexible TLS cert validation

2007-03-15 Thread Kern Sibbald
On Thursday 15 March 2007 16:46, Jorj Bauer wrote: > On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 12:04:00AM +0100, Kern Sibbald wrote: > > On Wednesday 14 March 2007 22:29, Landon Fuller wrote: > > > On Mar 14, 2007, at 13:41, Jorj Bauer wrote: > > > > Let's take the DNS security issue off the table for the moment. >

Re: [Bacula-users] [Bacula-devel] Feature request: more flexible TLS cert validation

2007-03-15 Thread Jorj Bauer
On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 12:04:00AM +0100, Kern Sibbald wrote: > On Wednesday 14 March 2007 22:29, Landon Fuller wrote: > > On Mar 14, 2007, at 13:41, Jorj Bauer wrote: > > > Let's take the DNS security issue off the table for the moment. > > > As I mentioned at some point, that's mostly paranoia. A

Re: [Bacula-users] [Bacula-devel] Feature request: more flexible TLS cert validation

2007-03-15 Thread Jorj Bauer
> Bacula does its normal HMAC-MD5 password authentication I never meant to imply that it did not, although my message was obviously interpreted that way by at least two people. > The FD address cannot be part of the certificate (CN or any other field) > if roaming FDs are ever to be supported.

Re: [Bacula-users] [Bacula-devel] Feature request: more flexible TLS cert validation

2007-03-15 Thread Josh Fisher
Jorj Bauer wrote: > I didn't actually craft this patch to address any TLS weakness; I wrote > it to address a feature flaw/conflict. > > Let's take the DNS security issue off the table for the moment. > As I mentioned at some point, that's mostly paranoia. As you say, you'd > have to compromise bo

Re: [Bacula-users] [Bacula-devel] Feature request: more flexible TLS cert validation

2007-03-14 Thread Kern Sibbald
On Wednesday 14 March 2007 22:29, Landon Fuller wrote: > On Mar 14, 2007, at 13:41, Jorj Bauer wrote: > > Let's take the DNS security issue off the table for the moment. > > As I mentioned at some point, that's mostly paranoia. As you say, > > you'd > > have to compromise both DNS and one of the ro

Re: [Bacula-users] [Bacula-devel] Feature request: more flexible TLS cert validation

2007-03-14 Thread Kern Sibbald
Hello Landon, On Wednesday 14 March 2007 20:34, Landon Fuller wrote: > Sorry for the late arrival. An opendarwin.org e-mail hiccup ate my > subscription. > > Kern Sibbald wrote: > > Well, I care, and I don't trust DNS at all. From what I read here, > > IMO the current implementation is nothing lik

Re: [Bacula-users] [Bacula-devel] Feature request: more flexible TLS cert validation

2007-03-14 Thread Landon Fuller
On Mar 14, 2007, at 13:41, Jorj Bauer wrote: Let's take the DNS security issue off the table for the moment. As I mentioned at some point, that's mostly paranoia. As you say, you'd have to compromise both DNS and one of the root CAs to exploit it. I only mentioned it for those that are total

Re: [Bacula-users] [Bacula-devel] Feature request: more flexible TLS cert validation

2007-03-14 Thread Jorj Bauer
I didn't actually craft this patch to address any TLS weakness; I wrote it to address a feature flaw/conflict. Let's take the DNS security issue off the table for the moment. As I mentioned at some point, that's mostly paranoia. As you say, you'd have to compromise both DNS and one of the root CAs

Re: [Bacula-users] [Bacula-devel] Feature request: more flexible TLS cert validation

2007-03-14 Thread Landon Fuller
Sorry for the late arrival. An opendarwin.org e-mail hiccup ate my subscription. Kern Sibbald wrote: Well, I care, and I don't trust DNS at all. From what I read here, IMO the current implementation is nothing like I imagined -- it is not the state of the art in security. With ssh, I gener