Re: [Ayatana] Fwd: Things I have noticed

2009-05-12 Thread Steve Dodier
But if the user is focusing on something else, the worse thing to do would be to force him to break his focus. I quite like notify-osd as it is (apart from the terrible lag when using the backlight change keyboard shortcuts). Mark, do you mind explaining what you mean with an "halfway line" ? Does

Re: [Ayatana] Notifications are annoying when typing in the upper right corner of a window

2009-06-01 Thread Steve Dodier
When you're browsing the web, how long can you stay moving the mouse, scrolling, without any decent (lets say 10 seconds) delay ? Sometimes, quite a while. This could delay notifications too much since you'd have the time to popup only one notification before the user moves again (and anyways if he

Re: [Ayatana] Notifications are annoying when typing in the upper right corner of a window

2009-06-02 Thread Steve Dodier
Hello, I think Mike said what i wanted to say. My worry is that you get a notification as soon as you stop typing. Usually, when i'm typing a document (i'm not speaking about forms, which indeed require me to watch the label of the fields i'm filling), the only moments when i stop are when i need

[Ayatana] "Power information" notifications

2009-06-02 Thread Steve Dodier
extract the file to your ~ and chmod+x the script, then run it, it'll use notify-send). Cordially, SD. -- Steve Dodier OpenPGP : 1B6B1670 IRC : SiDi on irc.freenode.net Jabber : s...@im.apinc.org steve.dod...@gmail.com https://launchpad.net/~sidi notification-battery-show.tar.gz Descri

Re: [Ayatana] "Power information" notifications

2009-06-03 Thread Steve Dodier
Hello, Actually the icons were in the presentation, in the .icons folder. I also added a killall notify-osd at the head of the script to make sure it restarts and notices the icons. I'll add a video to dailymotion so that you can see them. I also thought of putting information in the title, but I

Re: [Ayatana] "Power information" notifications

2009-06-03 Thread Steve Dodier
Hello, I'm currently making the script and vid, as you'll see, the icon shows the percentage. (I've got an icon every 17% approximately, i can do more but then freedesktop people will hate us for so many more icons). 2009/6/3 Martín Soto > On Wed, 2009-06-03 at 10:42 +0200, Mark Shuttleworth wr

Re: [Ayatana] "Power information" notifications

2009-06-03 Thread Steve Dodier
Hey people, I attached an updated script to this email, but dailymotion doesn't seem to be like uploading vids today, so I had to use YouTube instead. YouTube link here : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkdaiXXcv8w Cordially, SD. notification-battery-show_2.tar.gz Description: GNU Zip compresse

Re: [Ayatana] "Power information" notifications

2009-06-03 Thread Steve Dodier
Alright, I'll begin cutting the icons into 10% parts. Mat, if you can make the AC adaptator icon, it'd be great. It will take me a lot of time to get something looking decent. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.la

Re: [Ayatana] "Power information" notifications

2009-06-03 Thread Steve Dodier
I meant the battery icon with an AC adaptator in the bottom right corner, actually. What do you mean by zigzag ? ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More h

Re: [Ayatana] "Power information" notifications

2009-06-03 Thread Steve Dodier
2009/6/3 David Siegel > Steve Dodier wrote: > >> Okey, I've got it. I made a quick draw, I still don't know how i'll do for >> when it's at 50%, but do you people mind telling me what you think of t

Re: [Ayatana] Things I have noticed

2009-06-04 Thread Steve Dodier
Aren't the IM applications now meant to use indicator-applet instead of libnotify to notify messages, and isn't indicator-applet not appearing if you're in fullscreen ? ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpa

Re: [Ayatana] notify-osd + fullscreen + multiple monitors

2009-06-04 Thread Steve Dodier
What about console-presenter and evince / other PDF viewers ? They're used too for presentations. I don't think we can maintain an exhaustive list of applications, so maybe we should provide the user with a GUI to tell which apps shouldnt be overriden and in which circumstances (and have our own de

Re: [Ayatana] Things I have noticed

2009-06-04 Thread Steve Dodier
I doubt i give enough importance to notifications to sacrifice them a shortcut i'd have to remember afterwards. There are much more appropriate mechanisms for settings that dont change often, in my opinion. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatan

Re: [Ayatana] Yip: An Unified Notification System for the Web

2009-06-10 Thread Steve Dodier
What would be the practical use of it using libnotify when we're actually trying to get notifications to be used for system-to-user notifications and indicator-applet used for chat/im-apps-to-user communication ? Wouldn't it be even better to try to make this work with indicator-applet ? _

Re: [Ayatana] [Fwd: Re: Update manager]

2009-06-16 Thread Steve Dodier
Hello people, My email may be asynchronous but i barely could follow this thread, yet i wanted to say a few words on it since i fell on an interesting bug today on launchpad. My understanding of indicator-applet is that it is designed for apps-to-user communication and apparently only used by "so

Re: [Ayatana] [Bug 357150] Re: Regression vs notification-daemon: Notify-osd doesn't deal with a large number of notifications well

2009-06-16 Thread Steve Dodier
hat > we can fix (to send a summary message in those cases)? > > Mark > > > > ___ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana<https://launchpad.net/%7Eayatana> > Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayat

Re: [Ayatana] What most people would find useful (was: Re: Updates on Login )

2009-06-18 Thread Steve Dodier
This discussion has grown big enough for it to deserve several wiki pages about several points, so it'd be really great to stop splitting it and changing its name, cause i just can't follow anymore. PS : sorry for the offtopic :) ___ Mailing list: https:

Re: [Ayatana] Chocolate Color Scheme

2009-06-21 Thread Steve Dodier
Just a few comments : Orange being associated to low quality is an USA cultural specific issue, as far as i know. In fact, if it's almost not used in Europe, i don't think companies that use it are looked at as low quality at all. And since it's an uncommon color, it's very practical for building

Re: [Ayatana] notification for multimedia keys?

2009-07-01 Thread Steve Dodier
The code is in lp:exaile, normally. This video should show the final draft in details : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZL-0fbNdEbY I'll try to find the time to propose a patch for RB that does the same. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana P

Re: [Ayatana] Updates on Login

2009-07-04 Thread Steve Dodier
I don't think (b) is a good idea for the following reasons : * When the user shuts the PC down, he doesn't expect to give it attention anymore. An update can fail or be interrupted for some reasons (package missing on a server, internet connectivity broken, kernel upgrade asks if the menu.lst sho

Re: [Ayatana] Updates on Login

2009-07-07 Thread Steve Dodier
So is it possible to know *before* when a reboot will be required ? Very likely yes, right ? It only happens when hardware drivers and kernel get updated ? The packages list is updated when the computer is turned on, anyway, but let's assume Mr. User didn't do his updates Monday, then Tuesday he c

Re: [Ayatana] The old "installer getting stuck at 82%" issue :-)

2009-07-07 Thread Steve Dodier
Hello, The 82% step is the one when the installer looks for a mirror, and it's the first step to download the user's locale in order to have a fully translated Ubuntu. The locale download part has a "Cancel" button in case it's too long, but the 82% one doesn't. I reported this to the developers of

Re: [Ayatana] notify-osd + fullscreen + multiple monitors

2009-07-08 Thread Steve Dodier
Forwarding to ayatana as i forgot to put it in the recipient list AGAIN... -- Forwarded message -- From: Steve Dodier Date: 2009/7/8 Subject: Re: [Ayatana] notify-osd + fullscreen + multiple monitors To: Mark Shuttleworth I must say i disagree with the use of a "rem

[Ayatana] Recent discussions about updates : proposal to retarget the discussion

2009-07-08 Thread Steve Dodier
be done. I hope this attempt will help us to find effective solutions in time for Karmic. Cordially, SD. -- Steve Dodier OpenPGP : 1B6B1670 IRC : SiDi on irc.freenode.net Jabber : s...@im.apinc.org steve.dod...@gmail.com https://launchpad.net/~sidi ___

Re: [Ayatana] Battery is charged popup

2009-07-16 Thread Steve Dodier
Hi, Was it on Jaunty / Karmic ? What version of gnome-power-manager ? In my opinion it's a bug that should be reported : * "Battery full" notifications shouldn't have an action associated to it Anyway, I don't think these "battery full" notifications are useful in most cases. If I'm plugged in a

Re: [Ayatana] New notification placement

2009-08-27 Thread Steve Dodier
I think it shouldnt cost so much to fade it when it spawns unfaded because of the mouse. Having to leave the area 40px around the bubble and to come back into it to blur the bubble is overkill. I'd prefer having it spawn unfaded and fading after one or two seconds, or directly beginning to slowly f

Re: [Ayatana] Message Indicator: Listing apps in menu even if they are not on

2009-09-05 Thread Steve Dodier
e future (which clearly isnt the same for an indicator and for a dashboard) to know whether they want to support it or not. Especially developers from other distros. 2) you need to make sure the current design fits with the goals of the indicator applet. Just like that, you said : there will be n

Re: [Ayatana] Notification consistency

2009-09-07 Thread Steve Dodier
uld use notify-osd to display when a > > download is finished. I know that an addon for firefox exists so why not > > use it by default? > +1 too, but it'll require Mozilla to natively support libnotify for their Linux client. I'm actually surprised it's still

Re: [Ayatana] Notification consistency

2009-09-07 Thread Steve Dodier
2009/9/7 Mike Rooney > On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 6:04 AM, Steve Dodier wrote: > >> > Also I was thinking that firefox should use notify-osd to display when > a > >> > download is finished. I know that an addon for firefox exists so why > not > >> >

Re: [Ayatana] Ubuntu User Experience Guidelines

2009-09-28 Thread Steve Dodier
FYI, about the "Tango compliance". People in Ayatana are not working only for Ubuntu, and certainly not only for GNOME. Breathe is the perfect exemple of a community project that has between nothing and nothing to do with GNOME or Tango, I don't see why it would follow guidelines that are not relev