Re: [Ayatana] Places > People

that said: On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 20:06, David Hamm wrote: > Just playing, you guys really needs some killer touch book to go with this. > Hardware hardware hardware. The interface looks good, great with touch, but > please launch it with some good hardware. That will make all the difference. >

Re: [Ayatana] Sound menu slider interaction

Hi Thorwil, On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 10:42, Thorsten Wilms wrote: > Using the whole slider area as single drag handle makes for a > faster/easier to hit target and avoids surprises with unintentional > stepping. Note that the value-mark should not look like a handle, then, > as it would cause use

Re: [Ayatana] How do I know when I'm connected to the network successfully?

Hi, On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 13:19, Thorsten Wilms wrote: > On Wed, 2010-08-04 at 05:51 +0100, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: > > > http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/446 > > Have a look 2 mockups, thoughts and explanation at: > http://thorwil.wordpress.com/2010/08/05/ayatana-sound-menu/ > errm i

Re: [Ayatana] Restart Required

Hi Mark ;) On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 23:03, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: > On 03/08/10 20:25, Matt Wheeler wrote: > > In reality (as ScottK has already mentioned) only Firefox *needs* a > > restart after an update, everything else will just continue to run the > > slightly out of date version until yo

Re: [Ayatana] Places > People

Hi Jean ;) On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 12:50, Jean Levasseur wrote: > Hello Frederik, > > 2010/8/21, Frederik Nnaji : > > The "dash" as you spell it, is what exactly again? > > Does "dash" mean another "Place" in Nautilus, where my contacts will be

Re: [Ayatana] "Locate Pointer" breaks zoom in Firefox

Hi MPT :D On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 11:40, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Frederik Nnaji wrote on 22/08/10 19:37: > >... > > I attached a screenshot of the Mouse Preferences dialog.. > > Honestly.. it is alre

Re: [Ayatana] Space in the sound menu

On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 17:08, Thorsten Wilms wrote: > > Mute and pause all is based on the need to make the computer shut-up > quickly. No reason to play on if muted. The user will likely prefer to > continue to listen from the loca

Re: [Ayatana] Restart Required

On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 23:55, David Hamm wrote: > If you pkill chrome it will update and restore upon open no need to be > nice. can it restore cookies, https sessions and all? I think the problem here is that the app doesn't know, which one of its limbs needs to be restarted, so it restarts

Re: [Ayatana] Restart Required

On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 22:12, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: > On 22/08/10 19:47, Frederik Nnaji wrote: > > > everything exactly, that restart experience is really bad (the warning, >> the breakage if you don't do it, it's all poor, and if every app did >> tha

Re: [Ayatana] Restart Required

On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 00:40, Remco wrote: > On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 23:03, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: > > On 03/08/10 20:25, Matt Wheeler wrote: > >> In reality (as ScottK has already mentioned) only Firefox *needs* a > >> restart after an update, everything else will just continue to run the >

Re: [Ayatana] USB Device Removal Indicator

On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 15:56, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: > As soon as UI Freeze is past, how to eject/remove devices is something > I'll be investigating for Natty. > > It would be very helpful if people on this list could brainstorm > different ways to present it. > combine it with the also dev

Re: [Ayatana] USB Device Removal Indicator

On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 19:32, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Frederik Nnaji wrote on 26/08/10 16:55: > > > > On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 15:56, Matthew Paul Thomas >... > >> As soon as UI Freeze is past, how

Re: [Ayatana] USB Device Removal Indicator

Hi again, MPT ;) On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 19:32, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: > But what proportion of people who use USB keys understand that it's > possible to "power them on and off", do you think? > rather usb hdd, is what i was thinking of.. I remember discussion on how there's no way to power

Re: [Ayatana] USB Device Removal Indicator

On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 23:45, David Hamm wrote: > If the os completely powered the device down, i'm not sure if it would be > able able to remount it. Example, usb powered hdd. > Once it is powered down properly, i can finally remove the device safely and without any fear of disrupting any mech

Re: [Ayatana] Browser Offline Message

On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 15:28, Bilal Akhtar wrote: > > I don't understand why Firefox (or Internet Explorer) has an offline > > mode at all. > > It is very much helpful for DSL users as well. Sometimes, I want to > avoid my browser add-ons from unnecessarily accessing web resources > while someth

Re: [Ayatana] Indicator sound's button behavior

On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 16:33, 柳东原 wrote: > BTW, I really like this design: > http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/c7gRnJLOpQqcjXJlqbJuww?feat=directlink > nice! ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net

Re: [Ayatana] Restart Required

On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 21:25, Matt Wheeler wrote: > On 2 August 2010 20:35, Frederik Nnaji wrote: > > When clicking "Install Updates" in update-manager, USER should be warned > > explicitly that doing so will require a restart. USER should know this > well, > &

Re: [Ayatana] Restart Required

Here's how i would personally prefer the text to be displayed: u...@machine:~$ sudo apt-get upgrade Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done The following packages will be upgraded: bogofilter bogofilter-bdb bogofilter-common libwww-perl linux-he

Re: [Ayatana] Restart Required

Hi Matt, On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 19:02, Matt Wheeler wrote: > > I think a warning that "this update will require a restart" will put > some people off running the upgrade, especially if they are in the > middle of working on something, and is likely to lead to updates not > being applied for long

Re: [Ayatana] Restart Required

On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 23:50, Matt Wheeler wrote: > On 2 September 2010 18:30, Frederik Nnaji > wrote: > > Hi Matt, > > > > the current situation is, that both warning and NOT warning the user are > > being practised. > > This sends the user a mixed messag

Re: [Ayatana] Restart Required

On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 19:58, Scott Kitterman wrote: > On Wednesday, September 01, 2010 07:17:55 pm Frederik Nnaji wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 19:16, Scott Kitterman > wrote: > > > If you're using apt-get, then you aren't in the target audience Ayatana &g

Re: [Ayatana] Restart Required

Hello Scott, On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 05:01, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > > "Frederik Nnaji" wrote: > > >On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 19:58, Scott Kitterman > wrote: > > > >> On Wednesday, September 01, 2010 07:17:55 pm Frederik Nnaji wrote: > &

[Ayatana] Presence via Me Menu

Hi there, i've been thinking about this one for quite a while now.. We can't control our state of Presence (Me Menu) when empathy's presence is set to "offline". how is this situation supposed to evolve? My own idea would be, to replace "invisible" with "offline", since i appear as offline when

Re: [Ayatana] SVG default wallpaper was: OMG!

Wow, nice job ;) On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 19:51, Martin Owens wrote: > Hey Joseph, Mark and Otto, > > On Fri, 2010-09-03 at 15:52 +0100, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: > > Martin hit the nail on the head - the gap between what's on the CD, > > what > > works in practice, and the SVG standard, is rather

Re: [Ayatana] Restart Required

On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 22:30, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > Not all users have the same level of experience. That's unavoidable. > that's good, diversity is an asset, not a staller. > In general (not always, but in general) more experienced users will be more > like to use more command line tool

Re: [Ayatana] Restart Required

On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 04:31, Scott Kitterman wrote: > >I understand your position and i agree with most of it, too. > >While we surely share the same opinion on much of what has been discussed > >here, i am developing a mental model of how there can be a learnable, > >consistent and semantically

Re: [Ayatana] Restart Required

Hello MPT ;) On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 21:02, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: > >>>>> 2010/8/2 Frederik Nnaji : > >>>>>> > >>>>>> *Does* Ubuntu warn the user beforehand that the updates about to > >>>>>> be ma

Re: [Ayatana] SVG default wallpaper was: OMG!

On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 09:25, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: > > Something I wanted us to try was the idea of "convergence days", where we'd > publish a data file quietly which would say "on such and such a date, try to > be as close to this as possible", specifying the position and parameters of > the

Re: [Ayatana] Presence via Me Menu

Hi appi, On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 01:17, Apoorva Sharma wrote: > I think the fact that the memenu even shows the state changing buttons even > when chat is off is ridiculous. How is the user supposed to know that to > turn those buttons useable, he has to go to a different menu? > > There was a re

Re: [Ayatana] Presence via Me Menu

On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 13:22, Frederik Nnaji wrote: > Hi appi, > > On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 01:17, Apoorva Sharma wrote: > >> I think the fact that the memenu even shows the state changing buttons >> even when chat is off is ridiculous. How is the user supposed to kn

Re: [Ayatana] Presence via Me Menu

On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 12:41, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: > Frederik Nnaji wrote on 05/09/10 12:22: > >... > > On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 01:17, Apoorva Sharma >... > >> I think the fact that the memenu even shows the state changing > >> buttons even when chat i

Re: [Ayatana] Presence via Me Menu

On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 13:17, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: > Frederik Nnaji wrote on 08/09/10 02:12: > > > > On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 12:41, Matthew Paul Thomas >... > >> Frederik Nnaji wrote on 05/09/10 12:22: > >... > >>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/

Re: [Ayatana] Presence via Me Menu

On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 03:53, Apoorva Sharma wrote: > > To me, insensitive items are very dangerous. The only use case should be > for expressing functionality that has been disabled by a user action, that > is, insensitive items should appear to the user without the user making them > so. Otherw

[Ayatana] Reliability: Realtime Experience for Maverick

Dear all, after hesitating for quite some time now, i installed Maverick on my production machines, and it is running like a charm! Thanks to the everybody @ Canonical for all the great work, thanks to the entire community for making this possible in the first place ;) Reliability: As in the phys

Re: [Ayatana] Restart Required

On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 04:08, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: > On 31/07/10 21:57, Frederik Nnaji wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 21:59, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: > >> On 30/07/10 20:57, Vishnoo wrote: >> > Right , just wanted to mention that we dont need to use punct

Re: [Ayatana] Reliability: Realtime Experience for Maverick

Thanks for your thoughts, this is a low hanging fruit in my personal opinion, that's how it caught my attention. On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 15:25, Sohail Mirza wrote: > Perhaps better than replacing the text with a throbber would be to show > both side-by-side. Replacing the text would likely lead

Re: [Ayatana] Restart Required

On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 14:57, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: > On 09/09/10 13:20, Vishnoo wrote: > > I dont think there is a bug regarding that color change either.. Someone > > should first file the bug. :) > > Done at https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/indicator-session/+bug/634003 > Thanks, SABDFL ;)

Re: [Ayatana] Global Menu on the Desktop

On 01/11/10 20:35, Dean Loros wrote: As far as I am concerned---any upper bar wastes space.The first thing I do on a new install is remove the upper panel/bar & use AWN for my lower panel--yes I know that it "looks" like OSX that way, but it fits my workflow better (maybe because I'm a old-

Re: [Ayatana] Unity - Web and People

On 02/11/10 16:05, Seif Lotfy wrote: I am trying to figure how would be the best way to do it. If the feedback is ok on the ayatana side i think i could have the "backend" done within 2 - 3 weeks Cheers Seif that would be awesome! I can see (from a bird's perspective) that we currently have

Re: [Ayatana] Unity - Web and People

On 02/11/10 17:21, Anzan Hoshin Roshi wrote: On 2 November 2010 12:19, Luke Benstead > wrote: Here's what I'd love from a "People" place: 1. The ability to import contacts from Gmail 2. The ability to easily merge/edit contacts these are the points r

Re: [Ayatana] Why are the MeMenu and the messaging applet two separate things?

On 02/11/10 22:25, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 David Prieto wrote on 02/11/10 07:39: I originally sent this as a question for Askubuntu, but got no reply: http://askubuntu.com/questions/10688/why-are-the-memenu-and-the-messaging-applet-two-separ

Re: [Ayatana] Unity - Web and People

On 03/11/10 01:16, Stuart Langridge wrote: On Tue, 2010-11-02 at 20:03 -0400, Alex Launi wrote: It seems like a U1 contacts backend to libfolks would be the most robust approach. This is definitely something we'd like to do. I've already tipped off kenvandine that I'd like to talk ab

Re: [Ayatana] Unity - Web and People

On 03/11/10 01:29, Seif Lotfy wrote: Hey, For the U1 contacts I can work it out easily. We already have a telepathy logger. I will patch it up for ubuntu to actually map the contacts from telepathy with U1 and log them into Zeitgeist. This will allow me to easily populate the view with "Recent

Re: [Ayatana] Unity - Web and People

On 03/11/10 01:58, Seif Lotfy wrote: It is easy to access evolution and Thunderbird activities. Its on the top of our list ATM. It is not in zeitgeist domain to merge contacts etc. We can just tell you how you use the contacts. So all I can offer is to map the contacts from zeitgeist to U1 or l

Re: [Ayatana] media vs apps

On Sun, 2010-12-12 at 17:56 +, Chris Wilson wrote: > Personally, if I were to click on a button labeled 'Photos and > Videos', I would expect to find those files there rather than editors, > etc. > > > That said, if I were to click on a button labeled 'Music', I would > expect to find my musi

Re: [Ayatana] [Bug 692921] Re: Allow for the panel to be disabled (wishlist)

On Tue, 2010-12-21 at 17:10 +0100, zekopeko wrote: > I think that a decent solution for 11.04 would be to create a > temporary workspace for the fullscreen app so that it shows in the > Expo (Workspace switcher) mode but once the app is un-fullscreen-ed it > would return to the workspace from wh

Re: [Ayatana] Me & Messaging Indicator Menu

Hi Jan, On Fri, 2010-12-24 at 03:42 +0100, Jan Hopmans wrote: > On 23/12/2010 18:59, Phong Cao Viet wrote: > > I know this is kinda weird... but what is gonna happen if my list is > > longer, like if I have lots of social network account or lots of > > friends online... will the messaging menu k

Re: [Ayatana] Put a resize widget in the title bar

On Sat, 2010-12-25 at 19:31 +0800, Sam Spilsbury wrote: > On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 4:43 AM, frederik.nn...@gmail.com > wrote: > > Hi Remco, > > > > On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 13:50, Remco wrote: > >> > >> On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 07:16, cmaglothin wrote: > >> > I agree. The only reason I ever boot i

Re: [Ayatana] Put a resize widget in the title bar

On Sun, 2010-12-26 at 02:21 +0800, Sam Spilsbury wrote: > >> Apologies to hijack this thread - I have already got a sample > >> implementation of implementing a resize grip area set by the theme > >> which is larger than the borders and it vastly resolves the precision > >> problem. It requires a

Re: [Ayatana] Put a resize widget in the title bar

On Mon, 2010-12-27 at 17:18 +0100, zekopeko wrote: > > > > I suggest you look at Divvy[1]. Looks like a really nice way of > marrying a tilling manager to a non-tilling manager. thanks! divvy is cool, we had that before in a months old Ayatana thread iirc, and i think i liked it already for its

Re: [Ayatana] Me & Messaging Indicator Menu

On Mon, 2010-12-27 at 17:23 +0100, zekopeko wrote: > Since Unity has access to OpenGL it would be nice to have a more shiny > effect showing when a new message comes. Some sort of moving particle > effect. yeah, particle engine stuff would be sexy indeed, but spec says we want no more than 1 fram

Re: [Ayatana] The Wall instead of "Desktop"

On 01/04/2011 12:19 PM, Cyrille Ngassam Nkwenga wrote: So let have a look on the "Desktop" paradigm. ;) We used to understand the "Desktop" as the one on real life. the metaphor has been around from the beginning on, when PCs had the size of refrigerators, and only clerks and accountants

Re: [Ayatana] The Wall instead of "Desktop"

On 01/04/2011 01:12 PM, Luke Benstead wrote: another thing that disturbed me was that i now had no generic place to put stuff which i didn't want to have in my face all the time.. ^^ this I only ever use the desktop for stuff I need temporarily or that is yet to be organized. I

Re: [Ayatana] Design problem: Menus hidden by default in Unity

On Fri, 2011-03-18 at 23:38 -0300, Conscious User wrote: > I should mention, though, that in my opinion the fact that Unity merges > the titlebar with the panel makes the dragging slightly more intuitive: > you drag the titlebar to the thing it's going to be merged to. Perhaps > *too* slightly to

Re: [Ayatana] What should Unity look like on Smartphones and Tablets?

On 07.11.2011 22:37, Ian Santopietro wrote: At UDS-P, Mark announced his plans to have Ubuntu on Tablets, phones, and TVs by 14.04 LTS. You can start too early! http://i.imgur.com/56vDn.jpg I'd like feedback from the Ayatana community on the design. wow, beautiful work here! The messaging men

Re: [Ayatana] Need ability to close windows from within "Spread Mode" (super+W)

On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 20:59, Ian Santopietrowrote: Those are all great, but how do they relate to touch interfaces? Are touch interfaces inherently invalid in the eyes of the UNIX philosophy? This is ironic, since I believe well over 90% of touch-based OSs in use are UNIX-based. A

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