[Ayatana] Are Workspaces the right model?

2011-11-01 Thread Thorsten Wilms
Hi! Workspaces -- The purpose of workspaces is having a means of organizing windows in sets and making it simple and fast to switch between them. Making one set visible means hiding all others (except when going into an overview). Each workspace holds a set of windows in a specific l

Re: [Ayatana] buttons in file browser

2011-11-01 Thread Carl Ansell
Yep, it is nautilus. Try ctrl+1, ctrl+2 and ctrl+3. On 01/11/11 05:24, James Jenner wrote: Hi All, I just noticed last night that the tool bar for the file browser under unity (I presume this is nautilus) has gone for 11.10. Obviously this is intentional but does anyone know why? The only r

[Ayatana] Libreoffice integration

2011-11-01 Thread tommy
Hello, I've been using Ubuntu for a quite long time and the fact that bothers me most is Libreoffice integration. Libreoffice looks very out-of-sync with rest of the desktop. I think someone should look after libreoffice-gtk package. There are some issues: - Dotted outline around labels on b

Re: [Ayatana] Are Workspaces the right model?

2011-11-01 Thread Evan Huus
On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 5:56 AM, Thorsten Wilms wrote: > Hi! > > Workspaces > -- > > The purpose of workspaces is having a means of organizing windows in sets > and making it simple and fast to switch between them. Making one set visible > means hiding all others (except when going into an

Re: [Ayatana] Are Workspaces the right model?

2011-11-01 Thread Matt Richardson
Another place to perhaps search for ideas for implementation would be the Compiz "Group and Tab Windows" plugin available from the "compiz-fusion-plugins-extra" package* * On 01/11/11 12:53, Evan Huus wrote: On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 5:56 AM, Thorsten Wilms wrote: Hi! Workspaces --

[Ayatana] Can't send email to Ayatana list

2011-11-01 Thread Richard Gaskin
I'm subscribed to the Ayatana list and receive all messages daily, but I'm apparently unable to send to the list. I've verified that the email address used for my subscription matches that in both the "from" and "reply-to" fields of my email client ("ambassa...@fourthworld.com"), but still I can't

[Ayatana] [Bug 874141] [NEW] Unity freezes when right-clicking on icon in launcher

2011-11-01 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
Ryan G (rtgkid) has assigned this bug to you for unity in Ubuntu: When trying to right-click on the Skype icon, or any other, sometimes Unity freezes until I open up dash. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 11.10 Package: unity 4.22.0-0ubuntu3 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.0.0-12.20-generic

[Ayatana] [Bug 874141] [NEW] Unity freezes when right-clicking on icon in launcher

2011-11-01 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
Ryan G (rtgkid) has assigned this bug to you for unity in Ubuntu: When trying to right-click on the Skype icon, or any other, sometimes Unity freezes until I open up dash. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 11.10 Package: unity 4.22.0-0ubuntu3 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.0.0-12.20-generic

Re: [Ayatana] Dash Buggy Ubuntu 11.10

2011-11-01 Thread Ryan Gauger
Yes. Here is the link: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/874141 On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 11:18 PM, Omar B. wrote: > > bug report link ? > > > > From: rtg...@gmail.com > > Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:48:15 -0500 > > To: ayatana@lists.launchpad.net > > Sub

[Ayatana] [Bug 874141] Re: Unity freezes when right-clicking on icon in launcher

2011-11-01 Thread Ryan G
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Re: [Ayatana] Can't send email to Ayatana list

2011-11-01 Thread Richard Gaskin
Apologies for the last email. Although I've been unable to send email to the list through my email client, apparently the form on the Ayatana page labeled "Contact this team's email address" (which I mistakenly believed would go to the admin) works for sending email to this list. Sorry about the c

Re: [Ayatana] Can't send email to Ayatana list

2011-11-01 Thread James Gifford
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I got your message here just fine. Cheers, James Gifford On 11/01/2011 10:39 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJO

Re: [Ayatana] Can't send email to Ayatana list

2011-11-01 Thread James Gifford
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I got your message here just fine. Cheers, James Gifford On 11/01/2011 10:39 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > I'm subscribed to the Ayatana list and receive all messages daily, > but I'm apparently unable to send to the list. > > I've verified that the

Re: [Ayatana] buttons in file browser

2011-11-01 Thread Jo-Erlend Schinstad
Den 01. nov. 2011 01:24, skrev James Jenner: Hi All, I just noticed last night that the tool bar for the file browser under unity (I presume this is nautilus) has gone for 11.10. Obviously this is intentional but does anyone know why? That is not Unity. That is Gnome 3. Unity is used to laun

Re: [Ayatana] Are Workspaces the right model?

2011-11-01 Thread staticd
On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Evan Huus wrote: > On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 5:56 AM, Thorsten Wilms wrote: > > Hi! > > > > Workspaces > > -- > > > > The purpose of workspaces is having a means of organizing windows in sets > > and making it simple and fast to switch between them. Making on

Re: [Ayatana] Are Workspaces the right model?

2011-11-01 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On 11/01/2011 01:53 PM, Evan Huus wrote: The only advantage the current implementation has in my opinion is simplicity of representation - while I'm quite impressed by sets, I have no clear idea how the user-interface for them would work. They expose so many different states and actions that add

[Ayatana] [Bug 874141] Re: Unity freezes when right-clicking on icon in launcher

2011-11-01 Thread IKT
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Assignment ** Changed in: unity Assignee: Ayatana Discussion (ayatana) => (unassigned) ** Changed in: unity (Ubuntu) Assignee: Ayatana Discussion (ayatana) => (unassigned) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ayatana Discussion

Re: [Ayatana] Are Workspaces the right model?

2011-11-01 Thread Omar B .
Isn't the "sets" idea similar to kde-activities ? http://maketecheasier.com/use-kde-plasma-activities/2010/09/01 http://lifehacker.com/5668873/use-kde-activities-to-create-different-desktops-for-work-and-personal-use the "virtual desktops" we have are indeed primitive in comparison. --

Re: [Ayatana] Are Workspaces the right model?

2011-11-01 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On 11/01/2011 06:18 PM, Omar B. wrote: Isn't the "sets" idea similar to kde-activities ? http://maketecheasier.com/use-kde-plasma-activities/2010/09/01 http://lifehacker.com/5668873/use-kde-activities-to-create-different-desktops-for-work-and-personal-use From what I understand without trying

Re: [Ayatana] Are Workspaces the right model?

2011-11-01 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On 11/01/2011 04:49 PM, staticd wrote: 3)Technical issues: a)how to deal with Z stacking across multiple sets. At first I wanted to say similar to how Inkscape handles z-order and groups, each set having an internal z-order. But then you wouldn't be able to bring a single window of a lower se

Re: [Ayatana] Are Workspaces the right model?

2011-11-01 Thread Omar B .
I cant really make an opinion on kde activities as the last time i used it (briefly) was on 4.5 and over a year has passed and we are at 4.7 so might be a good time to try it out again. As far as i can tell the concept is great and would love to start using something like that, but i just cant

[Ayatana] option to disable Unity launcher

2011-11-01 Thread anthropornis
For me personally, a garden variety dock on the bottom of my screen is still more useful than the Unity launcher. In this case, I am using Docky, and in the screenshot below, you can see both the launcher and Docky on my desktop, and it just looks more cluttered than it needs to: http://i.imgu

Re: [Ayatana] option to disable Unity launcher

2011-11-01 Thread Jo-Erlend Schinstad
Den 01. nov. 2011 21:26, skrev anthropornis: Will Canonical ever permit the user to disable the launcher so that he or she can use the dock of their choice (or something else altogether)? Canonical has chosen to permit 100% configurability. Is that awesome, or what? Jo-Erlend Schinstad __

Re: [Ayatana] option to disable Unity launcher

2011-11-01 Thread Omar B .
>I don't follow this list consistently, so I am not clear on this, is it a matter of the devs haven't gotten around to it yet, or is the design team outright opposed to doing it? i think it may be the first > Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 16:26:25 -0400 > Fro

Re: [Ayatana] option to disable Unity launcher

2011-11-01 Thread Mark Curtis
> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 21:44:24 +0100 > From: joerlend.schins...@gmail.com > To: ayatana@lists.launchpad.net > Subject: Re: [Ayatana] option to disable Unity launcher > > Den 01. nov. 2011 21:26, skrev anthropornis: > > > > Will Canonical ever permit the user to disable the launcher so that he

Re: [Ayatana] option to disable Unity launcher

2011-11-01 Thread Jo-Erlend Schinstad
Den 01. nov. 2011 22:09, skrev Mark Curtis: > Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 21:44:24 +0100 > From: joerlend.schins...@gmail.com > To: ayatana@lists.launchpad.net > Subject: Re: [Ayatana] option to disable Unity launcher > > Den 01. nov. 2011 21:26, skrev anthropornis: > > > > Will Canonical ever permit

Re: [Ayatana] option to disable Unity launcher

2011-11-01 Thread Tim Penhey
On 02/11/11 09:44, Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrote: Den 01. nov. 2011 21:26, skrev anthropornis: Will Canonical ever permit the user to disable the launcher so that he or she can use the dock of their choice (or something else altogether)? Canonical has chosen to permit 100% configurability. Is tha

Re: [Ayatana] option to disable Unity launcher

2011-11-01 Thread Jo-Erlend Schinstad
Den 01. nov. 2011 22:15, skrev Tim Penhey: On 02/11/11 09:44, Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrote: Den 01. nov. 2011 21:26, skrev anthropornis: Will Canonical ever permit the user to disable the launcher so that he or she can use the dock of their choice (or something else altogether)? Canonical has c

Re: [Ayatana] option to disable Unity launcher

2011-11-01 Thread anthropornis
I'm not sure I understand your reply, I cannot tell if you are being facetious or what On 11/01/2011 04:44 PM, Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrote: Den 01. nov. 2011 21:26, skrev anthropornis: Will Canonical ever permit the user to disable the launcher so that he or she can use the dock of their choic

Re: [Ayatana] option to disable Unity launcher

2011-11-01 Thread Omar B .
i dont understand his reply either but i think this would be a better source: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/11/ubuntu-desktop-designers-clarify-on-configurability > Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 17:47:32 -0400 > From: anthropor...@gmail.com > To: ayatana@lists.

Re: [Ayatana] buttons in file browser

2011-11-01 Thread James Jenner
On 2 November 2011 01:23, Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrote: > Den 01. nov. 2011 01:24, skrev James Jenner: > > Hi All, >> >> I just noticed last night that the tool bar for the file browser under >> unity (I presume this is nautilus) has gone for 11.10. Obviously this is >> intentional but does anyone k

Re: [Ayatana] buttons in file browser

2011-11-01 Thread anthropornis
Nautilus Elementary had it right in this department; since it is no longer being maintained, I hope Marlin will be an option soon, and will retain all that was good about Nautilus Elementary, and maybe gain some bulk-rename functionality from Thunar. While I love keyboard shortcuts, some peopl

Re: [Ayatana] buttons in file browser

2011-11-01 Thread Jo-Erlend Schinstad
Den 02. nov. 2011 02:30, skrev anthropornis: Nautilus Elementary had it right in this department; since it is no longer being maintained, I hope Marlin will be an option soon, and will retain all that was good about Nautilus Elementary, and maybe gain some bulk-rename functionality from Thunar.

Re: [Ayatana] buttons in file browser

2011-11-01 Thread James Jenner
On 2 November 2011 11:30, anthropornis wrote: > Nautilus Elementary had it right in this department; since it is no > longer being maintained, I hope Marlin will be an option soon, and will > retain all that was good about Nautilus Elementary, and maybe gain some > bulk-rename functionality from

Re: [Ayatana] buttons in file browser

2011-11-01 Thread anthropornis
Or I could click one button one time. That is the essence of simplicity. Hopefully this will return in the future, whether from upstream, a Nautilus extension, a Canonical patch, or a Canonical selection of a different file manager as default. On 11/01/2011 09:39 PM, Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrot

Re: [Ayatana] buttons in file browser

2011-11-01 Thread Chow Loong Jin
On 02/11/2011 11:14, anthropornis wrote: > Or I could click one button one time. That is the essence of simplicity. You could say that for every commonly used feature there is. I don't frequently change views, for example, but I frequently change between showing hidden files and not. I also creat

Re: [Ayatana] buttons in file browser

2011-11-01 Thread James Jenner
On 2 November 2011 13:34, Chow Loong Jin wrote: > On 02/11/2011 11:14, anthropornis wrote: > > Or I could click one button one time. That is the essence of simplicity. > > You could say that for every commonly used feature there is. > > I don't frequently change views, for example, but I frequent

Re: [Ayatana] option to disable Unity launcher

2011-11-01 Thread Ian Santopietro
He's being quite facetious. He means you are free to edit the source code and make Unity be gave exactly the way you want. On Nov 1, 2011 6:11 PM, "Omar B." wrote: > > i dont understand his reply either > > but i think this would be a better source: > > http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/11/ubuntu-

Re: [Ayatana] buttons in file browser

2011-11-01 Thread Chow Loong Jin
On 02/11/2011 12:25, James Jenner wrote: > > The solution before the current solution was to have a toolbar with buttons > for > common actions. Who said that the solution that was 'current' previously had > to > change? Upstream, I guess, but wouldn't you agree it looks much cleaner this way?

Re: [Ayatana] buttons in file browser

2011-11-01 Thread anthropornis
In Nautilus Elementary I had 3 buttons to switch views (icon, list, compact). It was on the same row as the location (text or breadcrumb) and was not cluttered for me at all. Cluttered is A) in the eye of the beholder B) dependent on screen resolution and C) typically something one can toggle

Re: [Ayatana] buttons in file browser

2011-11-01 Thread anthropornis
Agreed. Maybe the evolution of Nautilus, and Gnome in general, will move to completely terminal based everything, much less cluttered that way, no ugly GUI's tarnishing our screens. Maybe we need a file manager based on Emacs! On 11/02/2011 12:25 AM, James Jenner wrote: And you haven't addr

Re: [Ayatana] option to disable Unity launcher

2011-11-01 Thread anthropornis
I suspected that. Naturally, at least 98% of Canonical's new target demographic(s) is quite capable of editing the source. Certainly, if I had the know-how, I could just go create my own OS from scratch, build my own mobo from scratch, etc. This is Ubuntu, not Arch, and yes, everyone knows the

Re: [Ayatana] buttons in file browser

2011-11-01 Thread Chow Loong Jin
On 02/11/2011 12:43, anthropornis wrote: > In Nautilus Elementary I had 3 buttons to switch views (icon, list, compact). > It > was on the same row as the location (text or breadcrumb) and was not cluttered > for me at all. Strange. In my Nautilus Elementary, the buttons were on the status bar be

Re: [Ayatana] buttons in file browser

2011-11-01 Thread anthropornis
On 11/02/2011 12:43 AM, Chow Loong Jin wrote: Upstream, I guess, but wouldn't you agree it looks much cleaner this way? It would be even cleaner without those pesky files listed in the middle. Hence, if we're going to add the change-view buttons onto the toolbar, then please add my show hidde

Re: [Ayatana] buttons in file browser

2011-11-01 Thread anthropornis
On 11/02/2011 01:09 AM, Chow Loong Jin wrote: In Nautilus Elementary I had 3 buttons to switch views (icon, list, compact). It was on the same row as the location (text or breadcrumb) and was not cluttered for me at all. Strange. In my Nautilus Elementary, the buttons were on the status bar besid

Re: [Ayatana] buttons in file browser

2011-11-01 Thread Jo-Erlend Schinstad
Den 02. nov. 2011 06:24, skrev anthropornis: On 11/02/2011 01:09 AM, Chow Loong Jin wrote: In Nautilus Elementary I had 3 buttons to switch views (icon, list, compact). It was on the same row as the location (text or breadcrumb) and was not cluttered for me at all. Strange. In my Nautilus Elem