Re: [Ayatana] What are the advantages of an application-centric interface?

2011-05-05 Thread Adrian Maier
On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 21:50, Ed Lin wrote: > On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 5:55 PM, Ed Lin wrote: >> In Unity applications and windows largely behave more like OS X while >> the "classic" desktop is more like Windows. >> There is a dock which represents applications as opposed to windows. >> It focuse

Re: [Ayatana] "Games"-application idea

2011-05-05 Thread Mathieu Comandon
Hello there, joining the conversation. It seems that this thread is closely related to the project I started working on a year and a half ago, Lutris ( http://lutris.net ). For the moment I've only implemented what I call 'runners' for a bunch of emulators and whatever program that can run games.

Re: [Ayatana] What are the advantages of an application-centric interface?

2011-05-05 Thread Ed Lin
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 10:00 AM, Adrian Maier wrote: > I am suggesting that right-clicking on running application has a > menu option "Start new ...". You can already do that for applications that have been patched for Unity, namely Firefox and middle-clicking on the launcher will always open a n

Re: [Ayatana] Idea for improving visibility of running applications

2011-05-05 Thread Niklas Rosenqvist
"But please tell me one reason why increasing the visibility of the background of running apps isn't just as good in terms of visibility with the added benefit of being always visible, not just on hover, i.e. more consistent and more usable." The reason for why I don't think that's such a good id

Re: [Ayatana] Idea for improving visibility of running applications

2011-05-05 Thread Spike Burch
The idea of having the boxes around the icons be clear when not running and colored when running is a good one. the fading bit is too distracting. On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 11:40 AM, Niklas Rosenqvist wrote: > "But please tell me one reason why increasing the visibility of the > background of runnin

Re: [Ayatana] Idea for improving visibility of running applications

2011-05-05 Thread Adrian Maier
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 20:31, Spike Burch wrote: > The idea of having the boxes around the icons be clear when not > running and colored when running is a good one. the fading bit is too > distracting. Another approach for showing which applications are started could be to decrease the icon size

Re: [Ayatana] Idea for improving visibility of running applications

2011-05-05 Thread Niklas Rosenqvist
Is it really? I mean you won't keep staring at the launcher when you've launched the application you wanted, right? Try the launcher again and then move away the focus of your eyes to the middle of the screen where your application probably will popup, try imagining it in a real life situation. 20

Re: [Ayatana] "Games"-application idea

2011-05-05 Thread Niklas Rosenqvist
That actually sounds very interesting! I was going to install the application to try it out but got the following error message in Ubuntu Software Center: "Dependency is not satisfiable: python (< 2.7)" 2011/5/5 Mathieu Comandon > Hello there, joining the conversation. > > It seems that this thr

[Ayatana] Apply a real grid feature for both the Gnome 2.x desktop and Unity

2011-05-05 Thread Niklas Rosenqvist
I just can't help but get annoyed over that if you place something on the desktop it never looks organized. There is always some small irregularity when you try to put folders, devices or shortcuts in a relatively grid-like pattern. The "keep aligned" option doesn't even keep the items aligned. You

[Ayatana] Ubuntu Software Centre could benefit of the functionality of back and forward buttons

2011-05-05 Thread Niklas Rosenqvist
As USC is designed today you can only navigate up and down in the categories with the use of breadcrumbs. But you cannot choose to move backwards or forwards as you expect in today's most browsing applications. If I download a .deb package into my Downloads folder and open it in USC to install it a

Re: [Ayatana] Ubuntu Software Centre could benefit of the functionality of back and forward buttons

2011-05-05 Thread Ian Santopietro
I have Back/Forward buttons in USC. They do go away if I click on a different category, but if I click on "Get Software", they come back, and I can continue with the installation. On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 12:20, Niklas Rosenqvist < niklas.s.rosenqv...@gmail.com> wrote: > As USC is designed today yo

Re: [Ayatana] Ubuntu Software Centre could benefit of the functionality of back and forward buttons

2011-05-05 Thread Niklas Rosenqvist
Yeah, but as you said, they are only visible when you are on the main "Get software" category, not when you browse "installed software" or subcategories like "For purchase" and other repositories. Isn't this a rather strange design choice? Isn't it confusing for the end user if it's only visible so

Re: [Ayatana] Apply a real grid feature for both the Gnome 2.x desktop and Unity

2011-05-05 Thread Niklas Rosenqvist
Yeah I think they do too, but I wasn't sure if the Unity shell implemented it's own version of the desktop or something like that. I said "Since Gnome 2.x is an alternative desktop session that will probably not disappear in the near future it should be fixed for that as well" more as another reaso

Re: [Ayatana] Unity Dash Ideas

2011-05-05 Thread Talavas Tauretajs
1. It can be used to launch another instance/window of an application. The launcher doesn't have the ability to open a new window (yet?). Perhaps this should be added to quicklists. 4. I fully agree categories (sections in lenses) need easier access and need to be more visible. I'm not sure if you

Re: [Ayatana] Idea for improving visibility of running applications

2011-05-05 Thread Ed Lin
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 6:40 PM, Niklas Rosenqvist wrote: > "But please tell me one reason why increasing the visibility of the > background of running apps isn't just as good in terms of visibility > with the added benefit of being always visible, not just on hover, >  i.e. more consistent and mor

Re: [Ayatana] Idea for improving visibility of running applications

2011-05-05 Thread huffylinux
> > http://unity-mockup.nsrosenqvist.com/ > > Source: > > http://unity-mockup.nsrosenqvist.com/source/unity-mockup.zip > The idea of having the boxes around the icons be clear when not > running and colored when running is a good one. the fading bit is > too distracting. I also found the fading t

Re: [Ayatana] Idea for improving visibility of running applications

2011-05-05 Thread huffylinux
I don't think he was talking about the initial fade you get after selecting your first app, where you would be moving away like you said. For me, the distraction is when you have an app running already, and then go back to the bar to hover over a diff app and it fades again (unless firefox is mang