Re: [Ayatana] Farewell to the notification area

2010-04-23 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
On 22/04/10 21:26, Martin Owens wrote: > Hello Mark, > > On Thu, 2010-04-22 at 08:49 +0100, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: > >> It's a good point. The workspaces experience has languished, and I'd >> like for us to climb in and improve it substantially. At the moment, >> we >> do a half-hearted job -

Re: [Ayatana] Farewell to the notification area

2010-04-23 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
On 22/04/10 21:46, Jim Rorie wrote: > >> Jim Rorie wrote on 22/04/10 01:42: >> >>> I have been silent on the update manager issue in the hopes that a sane >>> solution would present itself. It hasn't. Now you are forcing our >>> hand. So I submit. What do you intend to do to resolve that fa

Re: [Ayatana] Making workspaces great (branched from "Farewell to the notification area")

2010-04-23 Thread David Siegel
Guys, this is an excellent discussion. Will someone please volunteer to organize some of what's been said on a wiki page, or Google Doc/Wave, or something? Otherwise these ideas will likely never escape this thread. David On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 6:41 AM, Robin Anderson wrote: > Here's an idea fo

Re: [Ayatana] Making workspaces great

2010-04-23 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On Thu, 2010-04-22 at 10:27 +0200, Conscious User wrote: > > I'd welcome a discussion about how we could make workspaces *great*. If > > we can do that, then we would make more of them. And your contribution > > above is a useful start: great workspaces give you easy access to some > > apps regard

Re: [Ayatana] Farewell to the notification area

2010-04-23 Thread Vishnoo
On Thu, 2010-04-22 at 15:53 +0200, Conscious User wrote: > > That's true, we haven't done as good a job of communication in the past > > as we could have. But we're working on improving it. For this issue > > yesterday there were posts on design.canonical.com, > > markshuttleworth.com, this mailing

Re: [Ayatana] Making workspaces great (branched from "Farewell to the notification area")

2010-04-23 Thread Vishnoo
On Fri, 2010-04-23 at 10:14 +0100, David Siegel wrote: > Guys, this is an excellent discussion. Will someone please volunteer > to organize some of what's been said on a wiki page, or Google > Doc/Wave, or something? Otherwise these ideas will likely never escape > this thread. > > David > There

Re: [Ayatana] Making workspaces great (branched from "Farewell to the notification area")

2010-04-23 Thread Luke Benstead
On 23 April 2010 11:10, Vishnoo wrote: > On Fri, 2010-04-23 at 10:14 +0100, David Siegel wrote: >> Guys, this is an excellent discussion. Will someone please volunteer >> to organize some of what's been said on a wiki page, or Google >> Doc/Wave, or something? Otherwise these ideas will likely nev

Re: [Ayatana] Farewell to the notification area

2010-04-23 Thread Paulo J. S. Silva
> > Plus, as I pointed out several months ago, this is a HUGE security hole. > Passwords should only be given in response to a user initiated > operation. Asynchronous dialogs that ask for passwords are a very bad > precedent for a secure O/S. > > > Best we get those finger-swipe gadgets working,

Re: [Ayatana] Tagging in Nautilus

2010-04-23 Thread Diego Moya
On 23 April 2010 06:19, Frederik Nnaji wrote: > how about tagging files and folders in nautilus? > i wouldn't have to move them around much anymore, if i could attach > tags to them. > > imagine you don't have to move your files around physically anymore, > you just navigate them via tagging.. > >

Re: [Ayatana] Farewell to the notification area

2010-04-23 Thread Conscious User
> Hrm. whaaat.. > Design Communication is essential for the developer community, and for > the designers to layout the future plans , to co-ordinate the design > implementation. This part is improving and the design team's blog is the > start of such improvements. > > This should not be of conce

Re: [Ayatana] Making workspaces great (branched from "Farewell to the notification area")

2010-04-23 Thread Roth Robert
I have just been looking at the gnome-shell wikis, and I have found some mockups for suggested window management. I think the idea is quite good, could replace the workspaces. Someone has already sent a mail with a mockup similar to these, but this is a bit more detailed... check them out. http://l

Re: [Ayatana] Making workspaces great (branched from "Farewell to the notification area")

2010-04-23 Thread Luke Benstead
On 23 April 2010 14:17, Roth Robert wrote: > I have just been looking at the gnome-shell wikis, and I have found some > mockups for suggested window management. I think the idea is quite good, > could replace the workspaces. Someone has already sent a mail with a mockup > similar to these, but thi

Re: [Ayatana] Making workspaces great (branched from "Farewell to the notification area")

2010-04-23 Thread Tyler Brainerd
The blog I made reference too will address many of the proposed solutions here, albeit in a critical manner to root out good solutions. I can archive the conversation in a shared google doc, with permission from everyone involved. On Apr 23, 2010, at 2:14 AM, David Siegel wrote: > Guys, this is

Re: [Ayatana] Making workspaces great (branched from "Farewell to the notification area")

2010-04-23 Thread Tyler Brainerd
On Apr 23, 2010, at 3:10 AM, Vishnoo wrote: > On Fri, 2010-04-23 at 10:14 +0100, David Siegel wrote: >> Guys, this is an excellent discussion. Will someone please volunteer >> to organize some of what's been said on a wiki page, or Google >> Doc/Wave, or something? Otherwise these ideas will like

Re: [Ayatana] Making workspaces great (branched from "Farewell to the notification area")

2010-04-23 Thread Tyler Brainerd
Ignore that last blank one. Thanks for making the wiki! On Apr 23, 2010, at 3:10 AM, Vishnoo wrote: > On Fri, 2010-04-23 at 10:14 +0100, David Siegel wrote: >> Guys, this is an excellent discussion. Will someone please volunteer >> to organize some of what's been said on a wiki page, or Google >

[Ayatana] Refining the battery status menu

2010-04-23 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello again everyone On the Canonical Design site, I've just posted about the design of Ubuntu's battery status menu. (As an experiment, I've posted the same thing on the Ubuntu Forums.

Re: [Ayatana] Refining the battery status menu

2010-04-23 Thread Marc Deslauriers
On Fri, 2010-04-23 at 16:17 +0100, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: > On the Canonical Design site, I've just posted about the design of > Ubuntu's battery status menu. > > > (As an experiment, I've posted the same thing on the Ubuntu Forums. >

Re: [Ayatana] Making workspaces great (branched from "Farewell to the notification area")

2010-04-23 Thread Tyler Brainerd
In the interest of further thought on this subject, I posted a poll in popular blog OMG! Ubuntu just a few minutes ago. Later today I'll put one up at the forums as well, just to try to get a feel from the community how workspaces are used and how they could be used in the future. On Apr 23, 2010,

Re: [Ayatana] Making workspaces great (branched from "Farewell to the notification area")

2010-04-23 Thread Tyler Brainerd
Gah. I keep forgetting to On Apr 23, 2010, at 7:02 AM, Luke Benstead wrote: > On 23 April 2010 14:17, Roth Robert wrote: >> I have just been looking at the gnome-shell wikis, and I have found >> some >> mockups for suggested window management. I think the idea is quite >> good, >> could replace

Re: [Ayatana] Making workspaces great (branched from "Farewell to the notification area")

2010-04-23 Thread Tyler Brainerd
Silly iPod touch keeps goofing up my email and sending before I finish. Here's the poll: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/04/workspaces-and-how-we-use-them.html On Apr 23, 2010, at 7:02 AM, Luke Benstead wrote: > On 23 April 2010 14:17, Roth Robert wrote: >> I have just been looking at the gnom

Re: [Ayatana] Tagging in Nautilus

2010-04-23 Thread Frederik Nnaji
On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 13:58, Diego Moya wrote: > On 23 April 2010 06:19, Frederik Nnaji wrote: >> how about tagging files and folders in nautilus? >> i wouldn't have to move them around much anymore, if i could attach >> tags to them. >> >> imagine you don't have to move your files around physic

Re: [Ayatana] Tagging in Nautilus

2010-04-23 Thread Chris Coulson
On Fri, 2010-04-23 at 19:54 +0200, Frederik Nnaji wrote: > On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 13:58, Diego Moya wrote: > > On 23 April 2010 06:19, Frederik Nnaji wrote: > >> how about tagging files and folders in nautilus? > >> i wouldn't have to move them around much anymore, if i could attach > >> tags to

Re: [Ayatana] Compact Menu View

2010-04-23 Thread Mario Vukelic
On Fri, 2010-04-23 at 11:36 -0700, Eric Pritchett wrote: > I'd like to suggest having a Compact Menu View mode enabled by default > for most windows/apps. The thinking is if a user only uses the File, > Edit, View, Help, etc 5 times out of 100 and uses the icons below it > 95/100 times then wouldn

[Ayatana] Disregard my parent post, misses the point [was: Re: Compact Menu View]

2010-04-23 Thread Mario Vukelic
Sorry, I must have dealt with Office ribbon issues too much and have developed an allergy. My rant about auto-arrangements is beside the point because the OP just suggested a user-switchable compact view. On Fri, 2010-04-23 at 22:33 +0200, Mario Vukelic wrote: > On Fri, 2010-04-23 at 11:36 -0700,

Re: [Ayatana] Compact Menu View

2010-04-23 Thread Sohail Mirza
How about a compact menu that is accompanied by a search bar, not dissimilar from the Start Menu to be found in Windows Vista/7? Navigate the menus if you know where a command is to be found, otherwise just start typing the name. This could be aided by some mechanism for then informing the user w

Re: [Ayatana] Compact Menu View

2010-04-23 Thread Manish Sinha
On 4/24/2010 2:03 AM, Mario Vukelic wrote: On Fri, 2010-04-23 at 11:36 -0700, Eric Pritchett wrote: I'd like to suggest having a Compact Menu View mode enabled by default for most windows/apps. The thinking is if a user only uses the File, Edit, View, Help, etc 5 times out of 100 and uses t