Re: [Ayatana] Messaging Menu and the MeMenu

2011-01-07 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Conscious User wrote on 20/12/10 11:57: >... > I think the Messaging Menu *should* be purely an inbox, because one > of the most common complaints against the notifications redesign > is how reacting to IM/mail notifications is now less efficient > (op

Re: [Ayatana] Messaging Menu and the MeMenu

2010-12-31 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
So.. On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 11:40, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Apoorva Sharma wrote on 01/10/10 23:55: > > > > Right now, the Messaging Menu and MeMenu are kind of connected, in that > > the functionality of the MeMenu changes by clicks in the

Re: [Ayatana] Messaging Menu and the MeMenu

2010-12-22 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 12:52, Conscious User wrote: > > > > > How about getting rid of the section headings and showing instant > > messaging items on top, inboxes with their service-icon as prefix > > below!? > > > That *does* help cleaning up, but then we need another way of > opening the IM p

Re: [Ayatana] Messaging Menu and the MeMenu

2010-12-22 Thread Conscious User
> > How about getting rid of the section headings and showing instant > messaging items on top, inboxes with their service-icon as prefix > below!? That *does* help cleaning up, but then we need another way of opening the IM program when no new messages have arrived.

Re: [Ayatana] Messaging Menu and the MeMenu

2010-12-22 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
Hi there ;) On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 08:15, Oscar RdG wrote: > Good morning! > > On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 3:55 AM, frederik.nn...@gmail.com < > frederik.nn...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >>> - "Contacts" and "Compose" in the Messaging Menu... having two >>> "outbox" entries lost in the middle looks and

Re: [Ayatana] Messaging Menu and the MeMenu

2010-12-21 Thread Oscar RdG
Good morning! On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 3:55 AM, frederik.nn...@gmail.com < frederik.nn...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> - "Contacts" and "Compose" in the Messaging Menu... having two >> "outbox" entries lost in the middle looks and feels wrong... >> and adds clutter >> > > this is a great improvement, si

Re: [Ayatana] Messaging Menu and the MeMenu

2010-12-21 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
Hi Conscious, On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 12:57, Conscious User wrote: > > > > Right now, the Messaging Menu and MeMenu are kind of connected, in that > > > the functionality of the MeMenu changes by clicks in the Messaging > Menu. > > > For example, to get a text box for a broadcast account in the

Re: [Ayatana] Messaging Menu and the MeMenu

2010-12-20 Thread Conscious User
> > Right now, the Messaging Menu and MeMenu are kind of connected, in that > > the functionality of the MeMenu changes by clicks in the Messaging Menu. > > For example, to get a text box for a broadcast account in the MeMenu, > > the user has to go to the Messaging Menu to start Gwibber. Furtherm

Re: [Ayatana] Messaging Menu and the MeMenu

2010-11-09 Thread Alexander Lancey
Potentially put some sort of highlight or glow around the menu's icon for notifications (mail and chat). On Tue, 2010-11-09 at 08:28 +0100, David Callé wrote: > Le lundi 08 novembre 2010 à 17:17 -0600, appi2...@gmail.com a écrit : > > On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 4:40 AM, Matthew Paul Thomas > > wrote

Re: [Ayatana] Messaging Menu and the MeMenu

2010-11-09 Thread Arian van Gend
It looks very slick to me. There are two things I don't like though. The word Broadcast continues to be confusing to a lot of people. There has to be a better word for it. And the chat status functioning is unclear to me. How would you change status? By clicking on the circles? Which status is ac

Re: [Ayatana] Messaging Menu and the MeMenu

2010-11-08 Thread David Callé
Le lundi 08 novembre 2010 à 17:17 -0600, appi2...@gmail.com a écrit : > On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 4:40 AM, Matthew Paul Thomas > wrote: > Perhaps someone could > sketch what a combined menu might look like? > > Here's a mockup. > > MeMenu.png > > The only thing I'm not happy about

Re: [Ayatana] Messaging Menu and the MeMenu

2010-11-08 Thread Dylan McCall
> Do you have any reason to think that's true? How does Chrome OS notify > people of new mail? How does it notify people of new Twitter updates? This is a little off topic, and complete speculation, but we can look at Chrome's current direction to get an idea there. On the desktop, it uses the new

Re: [Ayatana] Messaging Menu and the MeMenu

2010-11-08 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 David Hamm wrote on 27/10/10 16:57: > > gshell is impeccably well polished and unity has a tray, Not for long, it doesn't. > I really >

Re: [Ayatana] Messaging Menu and the MeMenu

2010-10-29 Thread steve-ayatana
On 28/10/10 01:09, Jeremy Nickurak wrote: I think it's impossible to get this right for everybody, so it really should be configurable. Absolutely agree 100%. This needs to be easily configurable via a preferences menu/dialogue box and not via editing config files etc.

Re: [Ayatana] Messaging Menu and the MeMenu

2010-10-27 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
Hi there ;) On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 01:54, David Hamm wrote: > I was serious when I said the design teams should work together. Tell them on IRC, perhaps there already is crosstalk.. > "I think something as intrusive as popups are only acceptable for > urgent things like disk running out of

Re: [Ayatana] Messaging Menu and the MeMenu

2010-10-27 Thread Jeremy Nickurak
On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 15:25, Conscious User wrote: > I think something as intrusive as popups are only acceptable for > urgent things like disk running out of space. A phone ringing is a pretty annoying intrusion -- precisely because we accept that missing a phone call is a big deal, and shou

Re: [Ayatana] Messaging Menu and the MeMenu

2010-10-27 Thread Apoorva Sharma
On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 4:25 PM, Conscious User wrote: > > > > I'd rather have the message just pop up in front of me then have to go > > through a menu. That is about as close to real life as you can get. > > > Disagreed. In real life, sometimes when someone calls "hey, do you have > a sec?" and

Re: [Ayatana] Messaging Menu and the MeMenu

2010-10-27 Thread David Hamm
I was serious when I said the design teams should work together. "I think something as intrusive as popups are only acceptable for urgent things like disk running out of space." So your telling me that when an indicator that you have a message shows up in the top right of the screen this presents

Re: [Ayatana] Messaging Menu and the MeMenu

2010-10-27 Thread Conscious User
> I'd rather have the message just pop up in front of me then have to go > through a menu. That is about as close to real life as you can get. Disagreed. In real life, sometimes when someone calls "hey, do you have a sec?" and you are very focused and want to finish something first, you can tur

Re: [Ayatana] Messaging Menu and the MeMenu

2010-10-24 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 00:02, David Hamm wrote: > >>>"Consider it "conversations"" > > and thats just it, a conversation shouldn't be nestled behind two clicks in > a menu on the top right of the screen. > Some here argue that it's only one click to be exact, the Ayatana Indicators support touc

Re: [Ayatana] Messaging Menu and the MeMenu

2010-10-24 Thread David Hamm
>>>"Consider it "conversations"" and thats just it, a conversation shouldn't be nestled behind two clicks in a menu on the top right of the screen. I'd rather have the message just pop up in front of me then have to go through a menu. That is about as close to real life as you can get. __

Re: [Ayatana] Messaging Menu and the MeMenu

2010-10-24 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 18:52, David Hamm wrote: > Having both outgoing and incoming in one menu is a lot of stuff. > Consider it "conversations", rather than single independent messages. Touching a conversation indicator within the proposed menu opens the conversation, regardless what app you p

Re: [Ayatana] Messaging Menu and the MeMenu

2010-10-24 Thread David Hamm
Having both outgoing and incoming in one menu is a lot of stuff. If I see a mail icon with number 2 or something indicating I have a messages (which is kinda how a message icon should act) I would expect that when I click it to either see my gmail account open to that message, or at least see part

Re: [Ayatana] Messaging Menu and the MeMenu

2010-10-24 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 frederik.nn...@gmail.com wrote on 14/10/10 04:37: >... > On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 11:40, Matthew Paul Thomas ... >>> One solution could be merging the two menus, but that could create too >>> large a menu. A better solution could be to have the textbox a

Re: [Ayatana] Messaging Menu and the MeMenu

2010-10-14 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
Hi MPT, On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 11:40, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > One solution could be merging the two menus, but that could create too > > large a menu. A better solution could be to have the textbox and > > buttons appear when the user sets

Re: [Ayatana] Messaging Menu and the MeMenu

2010-10-04 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Apoorva Sharma wrote on 01/10/10 23:55: > > Right now, the Messaging Menu and MeMenu are kind of connected, in that > the functionality of the MeMenu changes by clicks in the Messaging Menu. > For example, to get a text box for a broadcast account in t

Re: [Ayatana] Messaging Menu and the MeMenu

2010-10-02 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
Hi Appi, On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 00:55, Apoorva Sharma wrote: > Right now, the Messaging Menu and MeMenu are kind of connected, in that the > functionality of the MeMenu changes by clicks in the Messaging Menu. For > example, to get a text box for a broadcast account in the MeMenu, the user > has

Re: [Ayatana] Messaging Menu and the MeMenu

2010-10-02 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
hi, On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 01:06, Conscious User wrote: > > > Le vendredi 01 octobre 2010 à 17:55 -0500, Apoorva Sharma a écrit : > > to get a text box for a broadcast account in the MeMenu, the user has > > to go to the Messaging Menu to start Gwibber. > > Not true. The text box will appear if

Re: [Ayatana] Messaging Menu and the MeMenu

2010-10-01 Thread Conscious User
Le vendredi 01 octobre 2010 à 17:55 -0500, Apoorva Sharma a écrit : > to get a text box for a broadcast account in the MeMenu, the user has > to go to the Messaging Menu to start Gwibber. Not true. The text box will appear if the Gwibber service is running. If the user configures Gwibber to star