Re: [Ayatana] How to handle multi-window launcher icons

2010-11-04 Thread Franco Catrin L.
El jue, 04-11-2010 a las 13:47 -0400, Bret Kuhns escribió: [...] > David's proposal creates a solution for easy switching by only > hovering your mouse (or long-press touch). Per the mock-up, users > already adept to using launchers to create multiple instances will be > greeted with a "new insta

Re: [Ayatana] How to handle multi-window launcher icons

2010-11-04 Thread Bret Kuhns
(sorry about the private reply goof *enables "Reply to all by default" feature in Gmail*) I asked, for examples, where the behaviour suggested was relevant. I think my multiple terminal example is another valid case. Want to work on multiple spreadsheets at a time? Text documents? Whether an app

Re: [Ayatana] How to handle multi-window launcher icons

2010-11-04 Thread Christian Giordano
(no point to write in pvt., maybe was a mistake, btw...) I asked, for examples, where the behaviour suggested was relevant. I have only be given one (Firefox) which I guess wasn't the best one. My personal opinion is that we can't design for everyone or for every case, for this reason it is import

Re: [Ayatana] How to handle multi-window launcher icons

2010-11-04 Thread David Prieto
Hello Christian, In this specific example, a solution could be that Mozilla makes the buttons > to open a new window, or open a new tab, more visible. It's important to > draw a line from the responsabilities of the software and the operating > system, and of course weight these corner cases. > I

Re: [Ayatana] How to handle multi-window launcher icons

2010-11-04 Thread Christian Giordano
Hi David, This is an interesting corner case, thanks for pointing it out, could you >> tell me some applications which are meant to be working in this way? I guess >> in this case we could handle it via quick menu, just a thought. >> > > For example, Firefox. My mom used to have a panel launcher t

Re: [Ayatana] How to handle multi-window launcher icons

2010-11-03 Thread David Prieto
Hello Christian > Ah, now I think I understand what you mean. Well, this could be eventually > the hint I was talking about. > Glad we're on the same page now. > I wouldn't call workspace switcher "expose", it's more a zoom visual > effect. > So we would have spread (hover on launcher), expos

Re: [Ayatana] How to handle multi-window launcher icons

2010-11-02 Thread Christian Giordano
> > Hi David, I'm not sure we're understanding each other here. When you mention expose > there, are you talking about the same expose effect Unity does now when you > click the workspace switcher? Or about the desktop spread I was proposing? > I mean expose like Compiz/MacOS expose, what Unity d

Re: [Ayatana] How to handle multi-window launcher icons

2010-11-02 Thread David Prieto
Hi Christian, I personally think that expose could be too much of a change for a simply > roll over action. This doesn't mean that we can't give a clue from the roll > over to make the click=>expose more predictable. > I'm not sure we're understanding each other here. When you mention expose ther

Re: [Ayatana] How to handle multi-window launcher icons

2010-11-02 Thread Christian Giordano
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 1:48 PM, David Prieto wrote: > Consider that a user without a touch screen wouldn't even notice that the > second method exists, since the spread would be there as soon as he hovered > his cursor over the icon, without having to keep it pressed. I personally think that ex

Re: [Ayatana] How to handle multi-window launcher icons

2010-11-01 Thread David Prieto
Christian, thanks for your reply: Hi David, can you state a precise use case when this would be useful? > - For minimizing a window from the launcher. Right now you can restore them but not minimize them, so the process lacks symmetry. Of course you can minimize it from the titlebar butt

Re: [Ayatana] How to handle multi-window launcher icons

2010-11-01 Thread Christian Giordano
Hi David, can you state a precise use case when this would be useful? Personally I think that showing the windows on mouse over is a bit heavy (on your mock-up the application name is also missing). Being based on over makes it not much touch friendly as well. I wonder if this problem can be sorted