Re: [Ayatana] memenu and appmenu

2010-05-21 Thread guido iodice
2010/5/21 Conscious User > > The combination thing is more or less my point: changing status is > common, and responding to messages is common, what I don't think > it's common is doing *both* as a reaction to a message (the > "annoying message" scenario you brought up). > Annoying messages are

Re: [Ayatana] memenu and appmenu

2010-05-21 Thread Conscious User
> > Part of messagING, as in "using an instant messenger", but not > > part of messagES, as in "an usual action when sending or > > receiving messages". The Message Menu deals with messagES. > > The name is Messaging Menu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MessagingMenu/ > So I think you partly misundersto

Re: [Ayatana] memenu and appmenu

2010-05-21 Thread Frederik Nnaji
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 14:44, Conscious User wrote: > If you are receiving annoying messages, and changing your status > stops them, then you were in the wrong status to begin with. :) Why is half of the Me Menu made up of preference setting links? Can't we put those somewhere else and link the

Re: [Ayatana] memenu and appmenu

2010-05-21 Thread guido iodice
2010/5/21 Conscious User > > Part of messagING, as in "using an instant messenger", but not > part of messagES, as in "an usual action when sending or > receiving messages". The Message Menu deals with messagES. The name is *Messaging Menu*: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MessagingMenu/ So I think you p

Re: [Ayatana] memenu and appmenu

2010-05-21 Thread Conscious User
> Yes I know. But if I receive annoying messages from a place, I would > stop them from the same place. This is the main point. > I would control all messaging function from a menu, not two or more. > Going offline or online is part of messaging. Part of messagING, as in "using an instant messen

Re: [Ayatana] memenu and appmenu

2010-05-21 Thread guido iodice
2010/5/21 Conscious User > > My two cents: I'm not particularly bothered by neither of those. I > think the problem is that your thinking is application-based, while > the indicators are functionality-based. > Yes I know. But if I receive annoying messages from a place, I would stop them from t

Re: [Ayatana] memenu and appmenu

2010-05-21 Thread Conscious User
> 1. If I want launch Empathy or Evolution, I can click on its icon in > the message menu. But other application are in the standard GNOME > application menu. So its a bit difficult for the user to understand > why some applications are in a place and other application are in > another place. But

Re: [Ayatana] memenu and appmenu

2010-05-21 Thread guido iodice
2010/5/21 Mark Shuttleworth > In Unity, we won't put Empathy in the launcher initially. We'll just > have the messaging menu, where you would launch it. But if you want it > in the launcher, you can put it there yourself. So the initial position > is not inconsistent - it only becomes slightly in

Re: [Ayatana] memenu and appmenu

2010-05-21 Thread Alex Launi
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 4:38 AM, guido iodice wrote: > 2. If I want open Empathy because I received a message, I must click on > message menu. But if I want go offline, I must use the me menu. So we have > two places to control the same program. Often I click on message menu > searching a button t

Re: [Ayatana] memenu and appmenu

2010-05-21 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
On 21/05/10 09:38, guido iodice wrote: > 1. If I want launch Empathy or Evolution, I can click on its icon in > the message menu. But other application are in the standard GNOME > application menu. So its a bit difficult for the user to understand > why some applications are in a place and other ap

[Ayatana] memenu and appmenu

2010-05-21 Thread guido iodice
Dear all, I think there is a inconsistency in the indicator menu and a inconsistency with the rest of the gui. 1. If I want launch Empathy or Evolution, I can click on its icon in the message menu. But other application are in the standard GNOME application menu. So its a bit difficult for the us