You just said : " ..There's no point in trying to keep up with
idiocy." - your words speak on your name.
1) This way of talking is not allowed for educated peoples. In any
circumstance. Point.
2) Speaking this way you presume your level is superior by far and the
Right Point of View is already y
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 2:40 AM, Thorsten Wilms wrote:
> On 06/10/2011 06:47 PM, GonzO wrote:
>
> There's no point in trying to keep up with idiocy.
...like pretending the word, as I've used it, hasn't been used that
way WRT to UI's for well over a decade?
Have fun nit-picking in your echo chamb
On Sat, 2011-06-11 at 17:02 +0100, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote:
> I see. Since this is ayatana@ I assumed you meant the interface
> design.
Ayatana has been involved with inventing some architecture too, of
course it was always invented to provide for the design and not the
other way about.
Martin,
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Ed Lin wrote on 10/06/11 23:57:
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> On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Matthew Paul Thomas
> wrote:
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>> I don't understand why you think a single OS for multiple form factors
>> counts as getting something right. The success of iOS, Mac OS X, and
>
On 06/10/2011 06:47 PM, GonzO wrote:
Don't look now, but word usage and meanings change over time. Always
has, always will, and one can either try to keep up, or protest the
inevitable.
There's no point in trying to keep up with idiocy.
If you use the term "intuitive" like you did, one can o
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 00:57, Ed Lin wrote:
>
> On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Matthew Paul Thomas
> wrote:
>
> > I don't understand why you think a single OS for multiple form factors
> > counts as getting something right. The success of iOS, Mac OS X, and
> > Android strongly suggests other
@everyone in this thread: Thanks for the great response!
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote:
> I don't understand why you think a single OS for multiple form factors
> counts as getting something right. The success of iOS, Mac OS X, and
> Android strongly suggests otherwi
*throws rotten tomatoes*
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 1:37 PM, frederik.nn...@gmail.com
wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 18:47, GonzO wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 2:09 AM, Thorsten Wilms wrote:
>>
>> > Too funny, as it is your kind of use that robs the word of meaning.
>>
>> Don't look now,
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 18:47, GonzO wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 2:09 AM, Thorsten Wilms wrote:
>
> > Too funny, as it is your kind of use that robs the word of meaning.
>
> Don't look now, but word usage and meanings change over time.
they change intuitively..
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On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 2:09 AM, Thorsten Wilms wrote:
> Too funny, as it is your kind of use that robs the word of meaning.
Don't look now, but word usage and meanings change over time. Always
has, always will, and one can either try to keep up, or protest the
inevitable.
--G
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GonzO wrote on 08/06/11 21:59:
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> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 4:46 PM, Ed Lin wrote:
>...
>> Dock: I haven't seen an HD version but it looks like even the subtle
>> hints of running apps are gone, together with auto save their desktop
>> behaves more clos
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Ed Lin wrote on 06/06/11 22:46:
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> Windows 8:
> They too struggle to come up with an interface that works both for
> small touch screens and the more and more often as "legacy" labeled
> desktop experience. Their solution for now doesn't strike me
On 06/09/2011 08:22 PM, GonzO wrote:
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 2:18 AM, Thorsten Wilms wrote:
On 06/09/2011 03:02 AM, GonzO wrote:
Regarding "intuitive": https://lists.launchpad.net/ayatana/msg01963.html
Talk about a post that misses the point of the word.
"Intuitive," WRT to design, means "
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 4:21 AM, James Jenner wrote:
> On 9 June 2011 18:22, Adrian Maier wrote:
>>
>> The current incarnation of Unity tries to enforce a simplified environment
>> where the ui designer decides what is useful/appropriate for the user to
>> see
>> on screen. It has zero configurab
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 10:57 PM, Jonathan Meek wrote:
> I'd just like to quickly point out: You say Unity is essentially telling
> "power users" they're wrong (sorry if I paraphrase, limited time).
Actually, my complaint was more directed at Lion and particuarly Gnome 3.
Unity is actually OK, _s
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 2:18 AM, Thorsten Wilms wrote:
> On 06/09/2011 03:02 AM, GonzO wrote:
>>
> Regarding "intuitive": https://lists.launchpad.net/ayatana/msg01963.html
Talk about a post that misses the point of the word.
"Intuitive," WRT to design, means "easy to learn" or "able to be
learned
>
> There is no need to do anything special to support specific instances
> as long as the system is flexible enough to allow the user to adjust it
> to their needs.
>
>
Personally I like flexibility, I'm just aware that such flexibility may have
a cost. Hopefully there is no or limited cost and it
On 9 June 2011 20:06, Thorsten Wilms wrote:
> On 06/09/2011 11:21 AM, James Jenner wrote:
>
>> Usability is about making the interface easy to work overall, not for
>> specific instances.
>>
>
> There are already somewhat varying definitions out there, no need to make
> things up on the go.
>
> A
On 09. juni 2011 12:56, Tony Pursell wrote:
I cannot understand the desire to get rid of the panel. With people
arguing whether a clock is needed and, so on.
For me a panel is handy place to keep things I know I want quick access
to.
Right. We do have the panel, and I don't think it would
be a
On Wed, 2011-06-08 at 20:02 -0500, GonzO wrote:
> Evenin'.
>
>
> > I'm curious if your talking personally or your speaking about people in
> > general.
>
> Both.
>
> I was, for a good number of years (and in some respects, still am) a
> sysadmin. I fixed people's computers and networks and the
On 09. juni 2011 11:21, James Jenner wrote:
I would be really interested to know what is considered the average
user or what the targeted users are and how often they switch apps, or
need to check the time or need to check performance based on a
percentage of their total weekly usage. Then we c
On 06/09/2011 11:21 AM, James Jenner wrote:
Usability is about making the interface easy to work overall, not for
specific instances.
There are already somewhat varying definitions out there, no need to
make things up on the go.
All the common takes on what usability is render your statement
On 9 June 2011 18:22, Adrian Maier wrote:
> I fully agree with GonzO .
>
> Basically, Unity attempts to introduce eye candy at the expense of
> cutting down useful features .
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 01:13, James Jenner
> wrote:
> >
> > There is a valid usability based reason to remove data
On 06/09/2011 03:02 AM, GonzO wrote:
But the most important problem is that the distinctions between
different sorts of users are: it's just a big red herring. A UI that
makes sense and is convenient is*not* specific to one's level of
experience or amount of use. Things either make sense or th
Evenin'.
> I'm curious if your talking personally or your speaking about people in
> general.
Both.
I was, for a good number of years (and in some respects, still am) a
sysadmin. I fixed people's computers and networks and then taught
them how to use it all, including customizing their OS to m
G'day,
On 9 June 2011 06:59, GonzO wrote:
>
>
> Some information is important and should be on the screen at all times.
>
> Sometimes this is simply because of convenience - like knowing what
> time it is just by looking at the screen.
>
> Sometimes this is to avoid annoyance. It is nice to ha
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 4:46 PM, Ed Lin wrote:
> In full screen apps there is no "information area" (clock and hardware
> stats).
*snip*
> No title bar, no controls, nothing but
> the content unless you move your mouse and actually want to interact
> with controls.
*snip*
> Dock: I haven't seen
On 06/07/2011 08:33 PM, Roberto Guido wrote:
SparkleShare ( http://sparkleshare.org/ ) seems to me a better solution:
it permits versioning, it permits remote sync (iCloud ;-P ?), works over
the traditional GIT so the user's repository can be accessed directly
from any other applications even if
On 06/06/2011 11:46 PM, Ed Lin wrote:
btrfs is already available for the adventurous, would be
nice to see some frontends with this level of integration and ease of
use as time machine in OS X (time machine works on the file manager
level but also works with individual files and even mail and iph
Hi Ed,
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 23:46, Ed Lin wrote:
> It's always interesting to see with what solutions others come up to
> exactly the same problems. In the last days both Microsoft and Apple
> let us cast a closer look at their next OS versions.
>
> If you missed them:
> http://www.youtube.com
It's always interesting to see with what solutions others come up to
exactly the same problems. In the last days both Microsoft and Apple
let us cast a closer look at their next OS versions.
If you missed them:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MnEndww2YQ and shorter
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p
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