Re: [Ayatana] Deprecation of the "Window" Metaphor

2011-01-18 Thread Thorsten Wilms
Dear Frederik, it almost seems like you want an inspiring term instead of the boring "windows", independent of actual problems or solutions. How about "crystal sphere views unto unicorn-filled landscapes"? As long as we mainly use flat, 2d screens and usually work with documents of rather flat co

Re: [Ayatana] Deprecation of the "Window" Metaphor

2011-01-18 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 11:56, Thorsten Wilms wrote: > On Sun, 2011-01-02 at 06:55 +0100, frederik.nn...@gmail.com wrote: > > now here's a list of example solutions how one can design something > > without > > "window" in mind: > > * OLPC's Sugar: http://www.collabora.co.uk/services/case-studies/o

Re: [Ayatana] Deprecation of the "Window" Metaphor

2011-01-02 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On Sun, 2011-01-02 at 06:55 +0100, frederik.nn...@gmail.com wrote: > now here's a list of example solutions how one can design something > without > "window" in mind: > * OLPC's Sugar: http://www.collabora.co.uk/services/case-studies/olpc > * Ubuntu's: http://blog.canonical.com/?p=379 > * http://ww

Re: [Ayatana] Deprecation of the "Window" Metaphor

2011-01-01 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 20:24, Thorsten Wilms wrote: > On Thu, 2010-12-30 at 18:33 +0100, frederik.nn...@gmail.com wrote: > > With all these words, you don't define any single, concrete problem with > windows as they are. > Thank you for reading, i apologize again for being a bit blurry with my

Re: [Ayatana] Deprecation of the "Window" Metaphor

2010-12-30 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
I apologize ! On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 20:24, Thorsten Wilms wrote: > On Thu, 2010-12-30 at 18:33 +0100, frederik.nn...@gmail.com wrote: > > *not too short a text* > > With all these words, you don't define any single, concrete problem with > windows as they are. You don't make much of a case for

Re: [Ayatana] Deprecation of the "Window" Metaphor

2010-12-30 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On Thu, 2010-12-30 at 18:33 +0100, frederik.nn...@gmail.com wrote: *not too short a text* With all these words, you don't define any single, concrete problem with windows as they are. You don't make much of a case for using another metaphor for the same thing, as there are no obvious candidates t

[Ayatana] Deprecation of the "Window" Metaphor

2010-12-30 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
After thinking back and forth for a while, i would like to start this topic finally, since nobody else seems to have started it yet. The deprecation of what we agree on calling the "window" metaphor. We spoke about Model-View-Controller and what that means to a normal human, i.e. using more natur