It's probably worth while to CC some wine developers on this. It may be
good to work this out with them, because if there's no current way- we
can work one out.
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from unity anyway? Is there a single person who wants this functionality
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I love this. It really just makes alt-tab a keybinding for features we
already have. Very clean, very simple, and enhances the idioms we've
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sidering this. It might be a good use case for Muinshee.
Muinshee is a good standalone player for when you don't really need a
library, but still uses all of the Banshee infrastructure.
We need a similar solution for the one-off video case. Perhaps extending
Muinshee to play video in a similar w
gree with this reasoning. The buttons there are clearly
nestled into the warm embrace of the album art and the track metadata.
If the controls were not clearly associated with both then this could be
a reasonable argument, but the three are all very tightly coupled
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It seems like a U1 contacts backend to libfolks would be the most robust
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HOT. Best of both worlds for maximized and unmaximized windows. I bet the
design team could do something up very nicely to make it clear that the
indicators weren't part of the window. The edge maybe rounded out at the
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ink they need things they don't really need. It's better to ship a product
with a perfect user experience, and fewer features than one that has all of
the features but with a poor, or even average user experience. Nothing we
ship should be b
might make sense to do the same thing for both sides though, so you can
resize towards the left, or the right.
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g a terminal command).
It seems to be that "in the relevant program" could just as easily be the
session menu.
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nd brother also just close
the lid and expect the computer to sleep.
Any easy fix to remedy part of the situation would be to remove the Guest
session button and move that into the 'Switch from' window.
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be run as a
project. This would probably make adoption outside of Ubuntu easier too,
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ossible. if we want a single icon. otherwise we
> should have an icon for each progress
>
No, it's completely possible, and helpful to report a cumulative progress.
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mouseover. I even said *without moving the mouse*.
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ates nothing is more against the design of indicators. What I've
proposed is similar to the battery indicator.
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flick a glance in the corner and get an idea of the progress without having
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ing a button to 'turn off' Empathy after I received some messages in
> that menu. But the switch is in another menu, far from it.
Maybe the two should be adjacent in the panel, so although they are two
indicators, it's very easy to get from one to the other, and they appear
mo
drag their windows around their desktop by
grabbing the title bar, so why not reuse that metaphor? The checkbox would
be in the corner of this title bar, and it would be a safe area where
misclicking wouldn't accidentally open the file.
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This looks awesome! But why do we need the dismiss all button? Shouldn't
just clicking into white sufficient? Having a button like that will give a
lot of users the impression that that's the only way to deselect files, when
really it's a kind of
while that's not useful in the window
itself, it *is* useful in the alt-tab menu for the case where you've
minimized a window but forgot that you were working on something, you can be
alerted that you have unsaved work.
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in order to perform a particular task (this is often not what they think
> they require!) and about providing exactly that to them
^^ Everyone on this list read that phrase an internalize it. That is the
single most important statement made on this list, ever.
eed to make the programmed automation doesn't provide a wrong
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I like the added color, but I think that just one color, instead of the 4 or
5 that are used would be a big improvement.
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We pretty much already do all of this in Docky. Docky + panel mode is
basically the win7 jump list jawn.
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ansient either, treating it as
synchronous gives you the ability to mute said stream from whatever ui.
Maybe asynchronous and synchronous weren't the ideal choices. Transient and
non-transient? Doesn't really matter, I think the idea is clear enough.
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Voice/Video chat, Youtube videos, etc. Streams that come from explicitly
user initiated actions.
- Asynchronous streams are those that are *not* user initiated, and are
triggered by environmen
icons.
>
I'm familiar with the post, the sound indicator we have now is an already
part implemented part of that plan, but the discussions going on in this
thread have nothing to do with that post.
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problem?* All of your sound
comes out of one set of speakers too, is this also a problem?
What I'm getting at is that I think this whole discussing has been trying to
design a solution to a problem yet to be determined. What's *wrong* with
what we've got currently,
y yes to the Unicorn!
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So is the answer "no"?
Before this discussion continues, it's essential that we define the problem
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No, it's identical to clicking "mute all" in two clicks, in one.
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his critical case is not well supported by the
> current volume control.
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Left-click, hold, move cursor down a couple of millimeters, release.
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window manager.
I don't think window resizing is really an issue, most themes have enough
chrome around the window to grab for resizing anyway. Resizing the terminal,
which has no status bar, is easy.
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hacking at a job once.
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On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Alex Lourie wrote:
> I'd be genuinely freaked if I couldn't login due to a broken camera :-)
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Just to be fair, keyboards break more often than cameras do...
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Sort of like a sexed up version of Empathy's status widget, but in the
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7;away' isn't an explicit state, but one that
should be triggered by inactivity such as the screensaver. If I shutdown my
computer in a 'busy' state, the next time I log in I should still be busy.
I'm sure I missed some cases, and empirical results will find places that
need
ne is actually proposing a no controls approach, a
different controls approach is being discussed..
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e program
is in a transition state of 'connecting'. This is pretty similar to the dots
that change color 1-by-1 during start up and shut down.
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difference in the first
place, I need to see it when it's not running, and then see it when it's
running and be aware of why it's different.
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> least.
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NotifyOSD
The wiki page is pretty comprehensive imo.
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>
Right, this is all real time collaboration. Email is a get a message and
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Is there any info on telepathy email stuff? The telepathy devs (afaik) have
always made it very clear that telepathy is for *real time*
communication/collaboration,
and not suited for things like email.
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I'm not, I'm just learning debian packaging, but Ken Vandine has been
involved with gmail-notify, so he may be able to lend a hand getting it
into universe/main.
Could someone on the Ayatana team give it some review for what needs done to
make it really beautiful?
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On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 3:28 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote:
>
> That's not a problem that's solvable in software. Teaching the user to
> care is something no update system will manage.
>
> Scott K
No, but making it so they update without caring about updates *is* so
al, we get off on
updates. My family, however, would (just like with the notification icon, as
this is essentially the exact same thing) never update.
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> users to misconfigure that system. Just consider the case where one is in a
> hurry to setup for a presentation that is already starting late. Will they
> really remember to set presentation mode? If they glance away from the
> screen they might miss the reminder notification too.
2009/7/7 Paulo J. S. Silva
> You know, if turning off the notifications was easy (is it?), that would
> count as a simple papercut!
>
It would be with a global "do not disturb mode" in FUSA!
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I know many people who do this. Full screen is not a proper heuristic for
"is busy", as nice as it would be if it were.
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> rehearsal? we cant!
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Is there a difference at all?
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n comparison to desktops?
>
I'm not forgetting anything, I know who we're designing Ubuntu for. If you
think that laptops aren't a primary use case, you're severely out of touch.
Google around, laptop sales are much higher than desktop sales, and this
trend does not seem to
tely for updates at shutdown, laptops are a huge primary use
case, probably more than desktops at this point. I know I haven't owned a
desktop for years, and neither have most of the people I know. Show of
hands, how many of you are on laptops right now? Desktops are a u
isturbed, you delay starting until you can really
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s forcing me to update now!"
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There's a big issue with reading on this list. If you read what David and I
both said, you're not forced to update. You have to tell it to update.
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what, the 3rd time?) you'll see that the user is NOTIFIED that
this update will require a reboot. So the user is already aware that in a
short time theyll be aksed to reboot, they can chose to wait and go make
some tea or proceed with the knowledge that a reboot will be necessary soon.
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the passkey use!
We have already taken the user's password/username, they're effectively
logged in, just not to their normal desktop session. We can connect to a
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ould hate.
>
Who said auto download updates? You guys put words in my mouth, I never said
we should do that. If you read the scenario I presented you'll see that
whether or not updates are download ahead of time is irrelevant. Also- I
started a new thread of this discussion, can we please conti
at it.
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I had meant to chat with Martin Pitt after his plenary, but never managed to
catch up with him. I forgot about it until I was going through my notebook
the other day. It would be really great if when u
ack to current
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ize that this update will need
a restart to apply, but I need my computer- so lets continue like there are
no updates that require a reboot, and I will reboot when I'm ready.
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e we're giving you a gift. This way
if an update requires a restart, you don't have to save your state, restart,
blah blah blah and interrupt your entire workflow, you haven't started yet.
It might not be possible now, but when the clutter gdm finally lands we
could do it rea
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how do do bottom right, and manage the growth properly, but I understand the
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is true for most users though; I for the most part
couldn't care less what my system has to say unless it's critical, and in
that case the indicator applet is not the place for it, something more
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