2012/1/29 Chow Loong Jin
> On 29/01/2012 23:53, supernova wrote:
> > maybe it is because I have intel graphics, but I find gnomeshell
> > faster then unity, at first and clean installation I mean. Let's hope
> > better for the future...
>
> I have two laptops, one of which runs on the Intel GMA 9
2011/11/19 staticd
> Another problem that is brought about by non resizable windows is dealing
> with error messages: they get truncated and cant be read.(e.g. software
> center error messages)
>
>
And that's the worst issue of all. It's windows-ism at its worst: fixed
dialogs that cannot display
2011/11/19 Thorsten Wilms
> On 11/18/2011 11:03 AM, Stefanos A. wrote:
>
>> To my non-expert mind, not only do the guidelines contradict themselves
>> (fixed size 675x530 in order to fit on netbooks, but netbooks have only
>> 490px available), but they also add inva
2011/11/18 Christian Giordano
> On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 11:55 PM, Matthew Paul Thomas
> wrote:
>
>> > Why? Why are they designed for a specific size, when that's
>> > against the Gnome HIG?
>>
>>
>> That isn't true either. The HIG says that toolboxes should be
>> resizable, that alerts shouldn't
2011/11/4 Mark Curtis
> That would only work for Firefox, not all programs that have buttons on
> the left hand side.
>
>
Do you have a specific application in mind? I can't recall any application
with buttons that touch the left side of the screen (please note that if
the buttons don't touch th
Two other potential solutions:
1. A visual proximity indicator to the hidden launcher, for instance as a
very soft glow that becomes more visible as the mouse moves towards the
left side (similar to KDE 4.x when its taskbar is set to autohide).
- or -
2. Make the left-most column a clickable reg
2011/10/19 David
> The problem I want to fix is that the launcher handles multiple windows of
> the same program extremely poorly.
>
> Open 2 terminal windows, then open a window on top of both of them, so both
> windows are hidden (eg a typical multi-tasking environment), try opening 1
> of the
For what it's worth, I've pretty much stopped using menus since I started
using 11.04. There are times when I forget menus even exist and stand there
wondering how to perform some action - especially in applications I am not
familiar with. Other applications with complex menus, such as gimp, have
b
2011/10/18 frederik.nn...@gmail.com
> On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 16:13, Christian Rupp wrote:
>
>>
>> But I still don't like the idea behind, melting dash and Commands. I think
>> keep on using [alt]+[f2] is a better choice. Anything else would confuse the
>> "normal" user.
>>
>
> that's a valid po
2011/10/16 Christian Rupp
> But power users just head to the software center and install gnome tweak
> tool - nothing big
> Nice would be a simple tweak tool which provides things like font and -
> size or opacity
>
Absolutely agreed. The two most common support requests I get for 11.10 is
font
2011/10/16 nick rundy
> I've had the opposite experience with Windows. I find the Windows font
> painfully small and scanty.
>
> It's always refreshing to get to use Ubuntu with ubuntu-font because I feel
> like the font size and everything is sized just right. One of the things I
> like about U
> *Some* windows are ok to resize, because for those windows, the
> probability that people would resize them deliberately
> multiplied by the benefit from doing so is greater than the
> probability that people would resize them accidentally
> multiplied by the pain from doing so.
I disagree with
2011/10/14 nick rundy
> I agree! One of Ubuntu's strongest assets was being able to resize all
> windows. Upon installing 11.10, I was growing pissed off because I'm running
> into windows that I can't resize. For example, I was trying to add a
> Keyboard Shortcut and couldn't get the keyboard s
>
> But they still aren't resizeable. The Open/Save dialogs are a great
> example. And I've never seen a resizable installer window in Windows.
>
They ARE resizable, that's what that MSDN article is talking about! I just
tested Internet Explorer, Firefox, Opera, MS Word and Notepad - all of them
2011/10/13 Matthew Paul Thomas
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> Stefanos A. wrote on 13/10/11 15:09:
> >
> > I just installed 11.10, just to be assaulted by ugly non-resizable
> > windows. Why, oh why?
> >
> > Off-hand, I reca
I just installed 11.10, just to be assaulted by ugly non-resizable windows.
Why, oh why?
Off-hand, I recall the official installer, which cannot be resized when the
"show details" area does not fit inside the window. This happens in the
"downloading packages" and " installing packages" parts of th
2011/10/13 anthropornis
> Incidentally, I just upgraded to Oneiric today (and I do mean upgrade, not
> a fresh install), and perhaps I am doing something wrong, but I do *not*see a
> "restart" option in the power cog menu (nor do I see gnome-terminal in
> my Dash, but that's a different story).
I disagree, these actions (shutdown, restart, etc) *should* be available in
the dash. This is something I've been waiting for since 11.04, ten months
ago.
Why? Because winkey+"sh"+enter is an order of magnitude faster for me,
compared to reaching for the mouse, clicking an icon, selecting a menu
o
2011/10/7 Jo-Erlend Schinstad
> On 7 October 2011 14:25, nick rundy wrote:
>
> > to 11.04), I have always HATED how hard it is to resize windows in
> ubuntu.
> > So I turned to the grabber because it was the only way to reliably get a
>
> It's really easy to resize windows in Ubuntu. Hold alt a
2011/10/6 nick rundy
> Have you tried using the lower-right corner to resize your window?
>
> Using the lower-right "grabber" you can resize the whole window, resize
> just horizontally, or just vertically. The "grabber" that was introduced in
> 11.04 was a much appreciated improvement for res
2011/9/28 Ian Santopietro
> It is simple, but it isn't intuitive.
>
> Pressing enter (in combination with any other key) indicates that you want
> to do an action with the item selected on the screen. We don't want the dash
> to search commands, as this is not end-user friendly. A new user should
2011/9/28 Ian Santopietro
> But Alt-F1 triggers keyboard navigation of the launcher, not the dash. You
> can switch directlyfrom there to either dash or the Run dialog without any
> other action. To open the dash, briefly press and release Super, which is a
> very different shortcut from Alt-F2,
2011/9/28 Jo-Erlend Schinstad
> Den 28. sep. 2011 11:24, skrev Stefanos A.:
>
> Change the key press to key release would indeed introduce an unacceptable
>> delay. I have already filed bugs on Unity for things that are activated on
>> release rather than press, like the
2011/9/28 Jo-Erlend Schinstad
> Den 27. sep. 2011 16:39, skrev David:
>
> I like the idea, but wouldn't it mean coding a delay before Unity actually
>> launches the program? Otherwise, how will it know whether you want to
>> launch or just move the icon?
>>
>
> No, it wouldn't, because you woul
2011/9/28 Evan Huus
> On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 6:12 PM, Stefanos A. wrote:
> > And a different viewpoint: Win7 doesn't distinguish between 'execute
> > command', 'launch application', 'search applications' and 'search files'
> in
And a different viewpoint: Win7 doesn't distinguish between 'execute
command', 'launch application', 'search applications' and 'search files' in
its Dash equivalent. Instead, it works through the list in that order: if
the text entered matches a command, then it's treated as a command (e.g.
"ping e
2011/9/27 Ian Santopietro
> Adding a 5th stop just makes it harder to get to it. The point of having
> the separate dashes, as I see it, is to provide very quick access to both
> pieces of very important functionality.
>
Alt-F2 will still be available. I suggested the *addition* of a way to move
2011/9/27 matt
> I have already submitted a bug for the fact that the last active window
> is not necessarily the one which receives focus when switching between
> applications with multiple windows.
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/854643
>
> I agree that bringing the whole group up can b
2011/9/27 David
> I like the idea, but wouldn't it mean coding a delay before Unity actually
> launches the program? Otherwise, how will it know whether you want to
> launch or just move the icon?
>
That is a very good question. Would the reuse Super+# indeed add a delay? If
yes, that would be,
2011/9/27 James Jenner
> Not a big fan of using something like ~ or $ or # in a lens either.
>
>
That was my suggestion but it appears it keeps getting misunderstood. You'd
*never* have to type such strange symbols in the dash. That's insane.
What I suggested is adding a keyboard *shortcut* that
2011/9/26 Naba Kumar
> Hi Jo-Erlend,
>
> On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 7:19 PM, Jo-Erlend Schinstad
> wrote:
> > Den 26. sep. 2011 13:21, skrev Naba Kumar:
> >>
> >> y and is what others have pointed out. But what is there to lose if the
> >> two are done through same interface - without any lose of f
2011/9/26 Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
> On 09/22/2011 08:46 PM, Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrote:
>
>> Den 22. sep. 2011 20:40, skrev Alex Launi:
>>
>>> Can someone explain why we think we want the ability to run rm directly
>>> from unity anyway? Is there a single person who wants this functionality who
2011/9/22 Jo-Erlend Schinstad
> Den 22. sep. 2011 20:40, skrev Alex Launi:
>
> Can someone explain why we think we want the ability to run rm directly
>> from unity anyway? Is there a single person who wants this functionality who
>> doesn't have a terminal open all of the time anyway?
>>
>
> rm
2011/9/12 Kévin PEIGNOT
> For battery low, icon become red i remenber (it did few times ago). It's
> red when it's urgent, blue for notifications.
>
> I think it's a sort of must be the blue icon for calendars ;). Maybe for
> 12.04 since Thunderbird+Lightning is just new in Ubuntu, and it's
> int
2011/9/12 Jo-Erlend Schinstad
> I've started using Thunderbird with Lightning for my appointments and
> tasks lately. It seems quite nice so far. I would probably like it even
> better if they could have their own windows, but that's another issue.
> (I really do like it the way it is :))
>
> Wha
Every desktop environment has its own set HIG. Unity is sufficiently
different than Gnome Shell or KDE4 that it merits some form of guidelines,
even if they are as simple as "must work with the global menu, must offer a
tailored launcher menu and must follow global font settings". Most of these
wil
2011/9/7 Carl Ansell
> Thanks, I found a bug report on this and the bug has since been fixed. It
> now also notifies me of new messages and turns the envelope blue. However, I
> still need to have Thunderbird open for this to work, which makes it a bit
> pointless as the Unity launcher has the co
2011/9/6 Eylem Koca
> Thank you for your comments! I too hope the design team will consider
> this for 12.04, even if it's not accepted as it is...
>
> @Stefanos
> I know what you're saying about the maximized-window control buttons,
> and the problem is partly because they're hidden when cursor
2011/9/6 Kévin PEIGNOT
> I love this way.
> In my way, it solve the problem expressed by design test (users try to use
> home icon to open the Dash), and the problem I actually have (and I think
> lot of people have) that the Dash button isn't in the corner as it was in
> 11.04 it's more difficul
Hello everyone,
I would like to bring to your attention a design issue with the new unity
buttons for maximized windows. The issue is that the buttons do not touch
the edges of the screen, which cause two different problems:
1. They are inconsistent with the indicators on the other side of the to
2011/9/4 a.gra...@gmail.com
> Hi,
>
> On 4 September 2011 14:04, Kévin PEIGNOT wrote:
> > I don't agree. PPA should be used only to install unstable / unsupported
> > features. I think the problem is that a lot of very good programs aren't
> in
> > the default repository and need to be installed
Not only is the text unreadable, but the lenses icons look bad. A soft drop
shadow around every icon and text element would help immensely.
Of course, toning down the transparency, saturation and luminocity would
also solve the issue and look better to boot.
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2011/8/29 Eylem Koca
> I have to say, I _love_ the application button idea on the corner! The
> thing is, it should be confined within the titlebar limits. Think
> about vertically (or horizontally ) maximizing the window, or just
> tiling it to one side of the screen...
>
>
Makes sense. Maybe a
2011/8/29 Jeremy Bicha
> On 29 August 2011 03:06, Stefanos A. wrote:
> > 2011/8/29 Stefanos A.
> >>
> >> Some food for thought on restored window menus.
>
> Your prototype looks similar to what GNOME Shell is doing. When
> clicked, an appmenu is revea
2011/8/29 Jeremy Bicha
> On 29 August 2011 03:06, Stefanos A. wrote:
> > This is Firefox's problem, not ours. The same information is available on
> > the address bar and the tab text - i.e. Firefox *triplicates* this
> > information. I don't think Unity shoul
Some food for thought on restored window menus. The Firefox icon is
clickable and displays the menu. The menu is also displayed on the top panel
on mouse over (exactly like global menus function right now). Maximize the
window and the orb disappears.
Essentially, what this does is add a second way
ngs that merit discussion, however, so it would be
useful if you could install Oneiric and try it out to gather some first-hand
experience of the UI.
2011/8/28 Jo-Erlend Schinstad
> Den 28. aug. 2011 16:25, skrev Stefanos A.:
>
> Why are they shown but the window buttons not? Wouldn&#
2011/8/28 Jo-Erlend Schinstad
> Den 28. aug. 2011 15:07, skrev André Oliva:
>
> And I also think that Unity shell has to be as simple as possible for the
>> end user. Unfortunately we can not force to all the users to read a manual
>> before using an interface, except when the user is totally ne
2011/8/28 Stefanos A.
> 2011/8/28 Jo-Erlend Schinstad
>
>> Den 28. aug. 2011 07:55, skrev huff:
>>
>> Yes, but from what you're saying I don't think you've tested
>>>> it yourself, much less tested it on others. For instance, we've
>
2011/8/28 Jo-Erlend Schinstad
> Den 28. aug. 2011 07:55, skrev huff:
>
> Yes, but from what you're saying I don't think you've tested
>>> it yourself, much less tested it on others. For instance, we've
>>> never before had the buttons in the corner.
>>>
>> I may have missed something in this thr
And in spite of everything else, the close button does not extend all the
way to the top left of the screen. You cannot simply "move your mouse to the
top left and click" - you have to move the mouse to show the controls, aim,
move some more and finally click. Try doing that on a laptop touchpad an
2011/8/27 Jo-Erlend Schinstad
> Den 27. aug. 2011 19:10, skrev André Oliva:
>
> From my observations of classmates, fellow students and various other
>> users, I see roughly 2 categories of users (putting all nuances aside for
>> the moment):
>> - Those who do learn a lot by themselves by active
2011/8/26 Gord Allott
> On Fri 26 Aug 2011 08:47:31 BST, Stefanos A. wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I really like the blur behind the new dash in Oneiric. Will this be
> > enaibled behind the launcher and the dash decoration (the area around
> > the dash)? These
Hello,
I really like the blur behind the new dash in Oneiric. Will this be enaibled
behind the launcher and the dash decoration (the area around the dash)?
These are not blurred right now and the result looks rather jarring. See for
instance: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/183140/unity.png (it's actually
2011/8/22 Owas Lone
> Hi Niklas,
>
> You have some valid points here BUT this problem has already been
> solved. In fact, it was solved in the first version of Unity. The
> solution is autohide. Launcher autohides by default on Ubunut making
> it effectively disappear and give all the space to th
Hi Eylem,
it would be interesting if you could try a slight variation of the first
mockup: the Ubuntu button at the bottom-left (like it already is) but the
application launchers aligned on top (like they are in the default Unity
layout). Right now, the mockup feels somewhat unbalanced with the la
Desaturate + darken is the way forward. The white overlay is ugly (plus it's
the same effect as stuck applications on Windows) and the blur effect, while
nice, hinders usability.
2011/7/5 Marco Biscaro
> > Why don't we go with blur instead?
>
> I think that it's because blur is *slow* in a lot o
2011/6/21 Thorsten Wilms
> Those who have been arguing for minimizing on yet another click on the
> launcher will likely not be satisfied with an option.
What do you base this assumption on? Multiple commenters have
stated explicitly that they would be satisfied by such an option. If you
have e
Matthew, I love your idea. With little twist:
- unmaximized windows get a menu "button" that displays (drops down?) the
menu when clicked. This button should be on the opposite side of the
close/maximize/minimize window buttons and should be large enobaleough to
present a viable click target (see
2011/5/8 Ed Lin
> I think that's the best implementation of taskbar meats dock offering
> all functions of both without sacrificing too much.
> But I'm not sure that's what you after. You are asking for a primary
> window-centric launcher. That doesn't exist, it's not possible to do
> without tur
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