Re: [Ayatana] Windows 8 and OS X Lion observations

2011-06-09 Thread GonzO
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 4:21 AM, James Jenner wrote: > On 9 June 2011 18:22, Adrian Maier wrote: >> >> The current incarnation of Unity tries to enforce a simplified environment >> where the ui designer decides what is useful/appropriate for the user to >> see >> on screen. It has zero configurab

Re: [Ayatana] Windows 8 and OS X Lion observations

2011-06-09 Thread GonzO
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 10:57 PM, Jonathan Meek wrote: > I'd just like to quickly point out: You say Unity is essentially telling > "power users" they're wrong (sorry if I paraphrase, limited time). Actually, my complaint was more directed at Lion and particuarly Gnome 3. Unity is actually OK, _s

Re: [Ayatana] Stereoscopic 3D on Ubuntu (or any Linux)

2011-06-09 Thread Spike Burch
that's a driver level thing in addition to the applications. On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 1:36 PM, Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrote: > On 09. juni 2011 18:18, Swapnil Chitnis wrote: >> >> Now even in Windows 8, we are expected to have 3D technology for watching >> 3D movies. Now, we have to take Ubuntu & Linu

Re: [Ayatana] Stereoscopic 3D on Ubuntu (or any Linux)

2011-06-09 Thread Jo-Erlend Schinstad
On 09. juni 2011 18:18, Swapnil Chitnis wrote: Now even in Windows 8, we are expected to have 3D technology for watching 3D movies. Now, we have to take Ubuntu & Linux to this. I have knowledge on this topic. Is anyone interested in development of this as a project? Wouldn't that be done in t

[Ayatana] Do we have Python libs for writing Unity lenses?

2011-06-09 Thread Jo-Erlend Schinstad
I suppose the subject says it all... I'm looking for a Python library to write Unity lensens, some documentation and preferably a tutorial if it isn't obvious. Any good leads? Thanks. Jo-Erlend Schinstad ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatan

Re: [Ayatana] Windows 8 and OS X Lion observations

2011-06-09 Thread GonzO
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 2:18 AM, Thorsten Wilms wrote: > On 06/09/2011 03:02 AM, GonzO wrote: >> > Regarding "intuitive": https://lists.launchpad.net/ayatana/msg01963.html Talk about a post that misses the point of the word. "Intuitive," WRT to design, means "easy to learn" or "able to be learned

[Ayatana] Stereoscopic 3D on Ubuntu (or any Linux)

2011-06-09 Thread Swapnil Chitnis
Now even in Windows 8, we are expected to have 3D technology for watching 3D movies. Now, we have to take Ubuntu & Linux to this. I have knowledge on this topic. Is anyone interested in development of this as a project? ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad

Re: [Ayatana] Windows 8 and OS X Lion observations

2011-06-09 Thread James Jenner
> > There is no need to do anything special to support specific instances > as long as the system is flexible enough to allow the user to adjust it > to their needs. > > Personally I like flexibility, I'm just aware that such flexibility may have a cost. Hopefully there is no or limited cost and it

Re: [Ayatana] Windows 8 and OS X Lion observations

2011-06-09 Thread James Jenner
On 9 June 2011 20:06, Thorsten Wilms wrote: > On 06/09/2011 11:21 AM, James Jenner wrote: > >> Usability is about making the interface easy to work overall, not for >> specific instances. >> > > There are already somewhat varying definitions out there, no need to make > things up on the go. > > A

Re: [Ayatana] Windows 8 and OS X Lion observations

2011-06-09 Thread Jo-Erlend Schinstad
On 09. juni 2011 12:56, Tony Pursell wrote: I cannot understand the desire to get rid of the panel. With people arguing whether a clock is needed and, so on. For me a panel is handy place to keep things I know I want quick access to. Right. We do have the panel, and I don't think it would be a

Re: [Ayatana] Windows 8 and OS X Lion observations

2011-06-09 Thread Tony Pursell
On Wed, 2011-06-08 at 20:02 -0500, GonzO wrote: > Evenin'. > > > > I'm curious if your talking personally or your speaking about people in > > general. > > Both. > > I was, for a good number of years (and in some respects, still am) a > sysadmin. I fixed people's computers and networks and the

Re: [Ayatana] Windows 8 and OS X Lion observations

2011-06-09 Thread Jo-Erlend Schinstad
On 09. juni 2011 11:21, James Jenner wrote: I would be really interested to know what is considered the average user or what the targeted users are and how often they switch apps, or need to check the time or need to check performance based on a percentage of their total weekly usage. Then we c

Re: [Ayatana] Windows 8 and OS X Lion observations

2011-06-09 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On 06/09/2011 11:21 AM, James Jenner wrote: Usability is about making the interface easy to work overall, not for specific instances. There are already somewhat varying definitions out there, no need to make things up on the go. All the common takes on what usability is render your statement

Re: [Ayatana] Windows 8 and OS X Lion observations

2011-06-09 Thread James Jenner
On 9 June 2011 18:22, Adrian Maier wrote: > I fully agree with GonzO . > > Basically, Unity attempts to introduce eye candy at the expense of > cutting down useful features . > > > On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 01:13, James Jenner > wrote: > > > > There is a valid usability based reason to remove data

Re: [Ayatana] Windows 8 and OS X Lion observations

2011-06-09 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On 06/09/2011 03:02 AM, GonzO wrote: But the most important problem is that the distinctions between different sorts of users are: it's just a big red herring. A UI that makes sense and is convenient is*not* specific to one's level of experience or amount of use. Things either make sense or th