Re: [Ayatana] Shortcuts needed for putting keyboard focus onto Status Menu Indicators (ALT + 1-0)

Hello, I would rather suggest keyboard shortcuts like ALT+F10 followed by a keypress of the first letter of the indicator, similar to navigating through the menubar of an application as you do as a poweruser. For instance ALT+F10 followed by N would set focus on the network manager indicator. For

Re: [Ayatana] Shortcuts needed for putting keyboard focus onto Status Menu Indicators (ALT + 1-0)

I have to press F10 and then left-arrow-key SIX times to reach the Network Menu. This isn't workable for something I need to access on a daily basis. It's too many key presses. Just for comparison, I can accomplish the same action in Windows (i.e., keyboard access to the Network Menu) with two

Re: [Ayatana] Idea for improving visibility of running applications

On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 3:43 AM, Evan Huus wrote: > This debate is getting rather heated, and I'm getting quoted and > rephrased a fair bit. Let me take this opportunity to clarify both > what I actually think: > > Unity is supposed to be considered 'application-centric'. ... > This model isn't for

Re: [Ayatana] Idea for improving visibility of running applications

This debate is getting rather heated, and I'm getting quoted and rephrased a fair bit. Let me take this opportunity to clarify both what I actually think: Unity is supposed to be considered 'application-centric'. In a truly application-centric system (see iPhones, for example) there is absolutely

Re: [Ayatana] Shortcuts needed for putting keyboard focus onto Status Menu Indicators (ALT + 1-0)

On 03/05/11 20:49, nick rundy wrote: > I'm finding it incredibly burdensome to have to "scrub" across menus to get > to the Status Menu Indicators in Unity (i.e., Network menu, Session Menu, > Clock, etc). It would sure make my use of ubuntu easier if ALT + 1-0 would > put keyboard focus onto a

[Ayatana] Shortcuts needed for putting keyboard focus onto Status Menu Indicators (ALT + 1-0)

Hey guys :) I'm finding it incredibly burdensome to have to "scrub" across menus to get to the Status Menu Indicators in Unity (i.e., Network menu, Session Menu, Clock, etc). It would sure make my use of ubuntu easier if ALT + 1-0 would put keyboard focus onto a corresponding Status Menu Indic

Re: [Ayatana] Idea for improving visibility of running applications

On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 1:19 AM, Niklas Rosenqvist wrote: > "What you suggested is a far reaching, non-default behavior "option" >  and I still fail to see the point of it." > > That is because you still haven't read the discussion... I've read every mail of it, I think even twice, just to make su

Re: [Ayatana] Idea for improving visibility of running applications

"What you suggested is a far reaching, non-default behavior "option" and I still fail to see the point of it." That is because you still haven't read the discussion... "I'm not sure that would work very well: the default launcher would end up this ugly grey strip since no programs are run when y

[Ayatana] Website branding and the mothership header

I am working on some tweaks for harvest.ubuntu.com's template to bring it in line with the Ubuntu branding. The Planet and the Wiki both have a white bar above the banner for links to other Ubuntu websites; Ubuntu.com, Community, Support and Partners. I'm wondering how this works, and where I can f

Re: [Ayatana] Idea for improving visibility of running applications

On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 8:52 PM, Niklas Rosenqvist wrote: > Seriously aren't you understanding what we've been talking about? Most of us > agree on that the current implementation is working fine for the default > Ubuntu installation but Ubuntu is very open when it comes to configuration > and it i

Re: [Ayatana] keyboard bindings broken

This is the list for design - for help with troubleshooting stuff, please go to http://AskUbuntu.com or the Ubuntu forums. http://ubuntuforums.org/ Cheers, James Gifford http://jamesrgifford.com On May 3, 2011, at 16:57, Melvyn de Kort wrote: > Hello List, > > I've managed to get the keyboar

Re: [Ayatana] Idea for improving visibility of running applications

Yes, it already exists. You only need to install CompizConfig Settings Manager (CCSM) from Ubuntu Software Center and go to the Unity plugin and set the background lighting to toggle :) 2011/5/3 Bartosz > Hi All. > Thanks Niklas for this great mockup. > > The first/most left screen is what I wou

[Ayatana] keyboard bindings broken

Hello List, I've managed to get the keyboard bindings super-a and super-f broken... They now respond as if I long-press super without a or f (open the launcher). I don't know how to restore the default working where it opens the applications dash or files/folders dash. I've tried to run "unity --r

Re: [Ayatana] Idea for improving visibility of running applications

Hi All. Thanks Niklas for this great mockup. The first/most left screen is what I would like to create in Unity. I didn't think about fading icons. Currently my desktop look like this: http://di.com.pl/pic/photo/oryginal/launcher_1304076215.jpg With opened Firefox, Writer, Shotwell and GIMP, it i

Re: [Ayatana] Idea for improving visibility of running applications

"More options that change the most fundamental and basic functionality of Unity? I strongly disagree this approach is the way forward. The objectively best solution should be default. The only goal of Unity should be to come as close to that as humanly possible. That's why I also don't go into CCSM

Re: [Ayatana] Idea for improving visibility of running applications

On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 4:54 PM, Niklas Rosenqvist wrote: > There you just pointed to the exact problem I'm trying to address! If you > look at the first frame of the mockup you see the current setup, the > programs that are running have an illuminated background together with the > arrow on the le

Re: [Ayatana] "Games"-application idea

If it could be installed as a plugin to empathy and if the applications using the API could detect if the plugin is installed and if not have fallback method then I guess it could be integrated nicely. But I think that most important is to get the games application itself to work with save game syn

[Ayatana] close instances of an application from the overview in unity

Hi All, Great Job for bringing Unity to desktop, I really enjoy Unity. I have a suggestion, which will please many users I think. First Im not an english speaker. Let face the situation first: I have many instance of an application runnig, let say Firefox ( main window and the download window),

Re: [Ayatana] "Games"-application idea

Well the idea was an interesting idea and pretty attainable in terms of what we have to work with. So the social features are all done with Empathy/Telepathy so the developers would be able to plug in to this API that is already there for this (in 99% sure its a dbus call or something to do it). M

Re: [Ayatana] "Games"-application idea

Sorry If I accidentally sends this twice. I had some problem when sending it the first time so here goes: Thanks for the contribution Shane! What I understand from your blueprint is that you guys were designing a "games application" with social community features like Steam or Desura. This would m

Re: [Ayatana] Idea for improving visibility of running applications

I can't give any response to that since it's not really my area :) But I just wanted to inform that I filled out a feature request! I hope it is in the right forum: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/776485 2011/5/3 Ian Santopietro > In that case, maybe taking another cue from Android would b

Re: [Ayatana] Idea for improving visibility of running applications

In that case, maybe taking another cue from Android would be apt. Don't remove applications from RAM unless they aren't running. Then, automatically remove older ones to make room for newly launched apps. That might help improve performance on older systems anyway. On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 09:27, Ni

Re: [Ayatana] Idea for improving visibility of running applications

I personally like to know what's running and what's not. That way I can terminate unwanted applications in case I should need more RAM or reduce the load on the CPU. By the user knowing what applications are running you give him the freedom to do what he wants with them. I don't think it should be

[Ayatana] "Games"-application idea

Sorry, I mistakenly sent it to only Shane and I want everyone to participate in the discussion so I forward this :) Thanks for the contribution Shane! What I understand from your blueprint is that you guys were designing a "games application" with social community features like Steam or Desura. Th

Re: [Ayatana] Idea for improving visibility of running applications

I would argue that a user shouldn't need to know what's running. If they want to work with an application, they switch to it, running or not, and it comes back as they left it, running or not. It's a distinctly mobile thing to do, and it is probably not technically feasible right now, but think abo

Re: [Ayatana] "Games"-application idea

After chatting with a buddy of mine who games a lot, I have to agree. (I don't normally game). Cheers, James Gifford http://jamesrgifford.com On 05/03/2011 10:06 AM, Niklas Rosenqvist wrote: > I think it would be used rather extensively since most people don't want > to put all their games in the

Re: [Ayatana] Idea for improving visibility of running applications

This is probably the best way https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+filebug Attach the screenshot to the bug report. Cheers, James Gifford http://jamesrgifford.com On 05/03/2011 10:08 AM, Niklas Rosenqvist wrote: > How would I do that? I've never done that before :) > > 2011/5/3 James Gifford

Re: [Ayatana] Idea for improving visibility of running applications

Ed Lin please review the comments and answers I've provided: "You can't see what's running at a glance without hovering the launcher. Why? Does it make sense for the user? Does it increase usability? I doubt so, it's just for aesthetic reasons." There you just pointed to the exact problem I'm tr

Re: [Ayatana] "Games"-application idea

On this entire thread I had a blueprint at the last UDS talking about how to improve the gaming experience on Ubuntu and it got some interesting responses although we didn't really do anything in the end with it but we came up with a list of things that we could do in the future and I think that wa

Re: [Ayatana] Idea for improving visibility of running applications

> On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 2:13 PM, Niklas Rosenqvist > wrote: >> Here I have the finished mockup of how this configurable feature could >> work. For the future, what is the best way to share images with the >> ayatana mailing list? Is it by attaching the image to the email or >> upload it like I've

Re: [Ayatana] Idea for improving visibility of running applications

How would I do that? I've never done that before :) 2011/5/3 James Gifford > Nicely done. I like it. If someone can add a "feature request bug > report", I'd mark myself as being affected. > > Cheers, > James Gifford > http://jamesrgifford.com > > On 05/03/2011 08:13 AM, Niklas Rosenqvist wrote:

Re: [Ayatana] "Games"-application idea

I think it would be used rather extensively since most people don't want to put all their games in the launcher since it clutters it completely and I atleast don't want to have to search for them everytime I want to find a game. I guess it's the feeling of well organised content that appeals most.

Re: [Ayatana] Idea for improving visibility of running applications

Nicely done. I like it. If someone can add a "feature request bug report", I'd mark myself as being affected. Cheers, James Gifford http://jamesrgifford.com On 05/03/2011 08:13 AM, Niklas Rosenqvist wrote: > Here I have the finished mockup of how this configurable feature could > work. For the fu

Re: [Ayatana] "Games"-application idea

Ah right. I agree that it could be more visible - but I'm not sure how many users would use something like that. You have to balance features with "How many users are actually going to use this thing?" Cheers, James Gifford http://jamesrgifford.com On 05/02/2011 06:01 PM, Niklas Rosenqvist wrote:

Re: [Ayatana] Idea for improving visibility of running applications

How we do that? I've never done this before :) 2011/5/3 Toki Tahmid > I second Evan's opinion. I hope we can somehow register a feature-request > bug. > > > On 3 May 2011 16:33, Evan Huus wrote: > >> I can't speak for anyone else, but I quite like the look of it. >> >> Regarding images, you did

Re: [Ayatana] Idea for improving visibility of running applications

I second Evan's opinion. I hope we can somehow register a feature-request bug. On 3 May 2011 16:33, Evan Huus wrote: > I can't speak for anyone else, but I quite like the look of it. > > Regarding images, you did the right thing. Sending it as an attachment > is slow since the mail server has to

[Ayatana] Feedback on Unity usability

I've now been using Unity both at home and at work for the last several days. In general, everything works out fine, and I generally like it. I like the dash, I like having icons in the dock, though the lack of good ways of customizing the launchers there is not too elegant. Needless to say it's

Re: [Ayatana] Idea for improving visibility of running applications

I can't speak for anyone else, but I quite like the look of it. Regarding images, you did the right thing. Sending it as an attachment is slow since the mail server has to copy the file to every single person on the list. Uploading it elsewhere and providing a link is best. Cheers, Evan On Tue,

Re: [Ayatana] Idea for improving visibility of running applications

Here I have the finished mockup of how this configurable feature could work. For the future, what is the best way to share images with the ayatana mailing list? Is it by attaching the image to the email or upload it like I've done now? Here is the link: http://i.imgur.com/bnIAE.png 2011/5/3 Nikla