Re: [Ayatana] "fileless" paradigm

2010-12-16 Thread Roberto Guido
On Thu, 2010-12-16 at 19:53 +0100, frederik.nn...@gmail.com wrote: > These are the problems you identify, when observing people with little > computer knowledge. They simply want to get stuff done, and find > nothing but challenges in their way, instead of being presented with > obvious friendly an

Re: [Ayatana] Desktop Silent Mode

2010-12-16 Thread Dylan McCall
With regards to presence stuff, wasn't there some talk about merging the Me menu and the Message menu? How would that relate here? (And, on that same topic: there's some talk right now about the presence options disabling themselves when offline. The Me / Messages merge would fix the big blocker fo

Re: [Ayatana] "fileless" paradigm

2010-12-16 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
Hi Dylan, On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 16:58, Dylan McCall wrote: > > On 2010-12-16 7:34 AM, "femorandeira" wrote: > > > > > > On Tue, 14 Dec 2010 14:14:12 +0100, Roberto Guido > wrote: > >> > >> I think enforcing "search" against "browsing" could be a good > >> compromise [...] > >> > >> If massiv

Re: [Ayatana] Desktop Silent Mode

2010-12-16 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
On 16/12/10 18:42, frederik.nn...@gmail.com wrote: > Hi SABDFL, Yikes, that's much better in lowercase. In upper, it's more D than :-D > This has probably been lying around for so long, because of design > conflicts with how the Ayatana subsystem is currently wired. > * Presence has no local effe

Re: [Ayatana] Desktop Silent Mode

2010-12-16 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
Hi SABDFL, On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 09:48, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: > On 22/09/10 11:37, frederik.nn...@gmail.com wrote: > > we can save ourselves a lot of annoyance by introducing Silent Mode > > finally. > > Synonyms for this use case have been "DoNotDisturb", Busy mode or > > NotAvailable to n

Re: [Ayatana] [Fwd: Re: Presence via Me Menu]

2010-12-16 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 18:30, frederik.nn...@gmail.com < frederik.nn...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Semantically, "Available" is the default state², unless something else is > specified. > "Offline" in fact means "Chat (Off)". > (Users are more familiar with the simple ON/OFF metaphor, than with > comp

Re: [Ayatana] [Fwd: Re: Presence via Me Menu]

2010-12-16 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
Hi Martín, On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 13:56, Martín A. Casco wrote: > - Mensaje reenviado > > *De*: Mark Shuttleworth > > > > *Para*: Frederik Nnaji > > > > *Cc*: Ayatana@lists.launchpad.net > > > > *Asunto*: Re: [Ayatana] Presence via Me Menu > *Fecha*: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 07:5

Re: [Ayatana] Presence via Me Menu

2010-12-16 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mark Shuttleworth wrote on 16/12/10 07:56: > > On 09/09/10 11:00, Frederik Nnaji wrote: >... >> If offline was to be a state of Presence, it would be better if i >> could alternate between "offline" and the other states of Presence via >> the MeMenu di

Re: [Ayatana] Are 11.04 bugs considered paper cuts?

2010-12-16 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris Wilson wrote on 15/12/10 16:07: > > This bug was recently reported. > https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/689468 > > I'm not entirely sure what the rules are, It's much more effective to fix a bug before the release than afterward.

Re: [Ayatana] [Software-Center] - New categories

2010-12-16 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Martin Owens wrote on 15/12/10 14:20: > > On Wed, 2010-12-15 at 12:27 +, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: >> >> Are either of those something you could help with? > > Does my original proposal of reverse depends not meet the criterion? >... Sorry if y

Re: [Ayatana] "fileless" paradigm

2010-12-16 Thread Dylan McCall
On 2010-12-16 7:34 AM, "femorandeira" wrote: > > > On Tue, 14 Dec 2010 14:14:12 +0100, Roberto Guido wrote: >> >> I think enforcing "search" against "browsing" could be a good >> compromise [...] >> >> If massively used and integrated in >> the DE, the user could forget folders and just search wh

Re: [Ayatana] "fileless" paradigm

2010-12-16 Thread femorandeira
On Tue, 14 Dec 2010 14:14:12 +0100, Roberto Guido wrote: I think enforcing "search" against "browsing" could be a good compromise [...] If massively used and integrated in the DE, the user could forget folders and just search what needed from time to time instead of browsing his own folder h

[Ayatana] [Fwd: Re: Presence via Me Menu]

2010-12-16 Thread A. Casco
- Mensaje reenviado > De: Mark Shuttleworth > Para: Frederik Nnaji > Cc: Ayatana@lists.launchpad.net > Asunto: Re: [Ayatana] Presence via Me Menu > Fecha: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 07:56:18 + > > > On 09/09/10 11:00, Frederik Nnaji wrote: > > I was hoping Mission Control 5 in Tele

Re: [Ayatana] VPN

2010-12-16 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Philipp Wendler wrote on 15/06/10 07:37: >... > Am 14.06.2010 16:21, schrieb Shane Fagan: >> >> I see you guys are planning the design of the networking menu. My >> question is do you really need vpn in there? Is it something that we >> need to expose

Re: [Ayatana] unity and notifications

2010-12-16 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
On 16/09/10 16:25, Conscious User wrote: > Le jeudi 16 septembre 2010 à 13:29 +0100, Luke Benstead a écrit : >> >> On 15 September 2010 17:25, Greg K Nicholson wrote: >> On 15 September 2010 16:54, Conscious User >> wrote: >> > I know it's the space for the confirmation bu

Re: [Ayatana] Audial notifications.

2010-12-16 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
On 25/09/10 17:28, Dylan McCall wrote: > Attaching a sound hint to notifications is in notify-osd's > specification (and the desktop notifications spec). > > I put a patch implementing the feature here: > https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/notify-osd/+bug/549900 > > As for tying together libnotify and

Re: [Ayatana] Desktop Silent Mode

2010-12-16 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
On 22/09/10 11:37, frederik.nn...@gmail.com wrote: > we can save ourselves a lot of annoyance by introducing Silent Mode > finally. > Synonyms for this use case have been "DoNotDisturb", Busy mode or > NotAvailable to name most of them. > > The high level concept of Silent Mode active during a Desk

Re: [Ayatana] Restart Required

2010-12-16 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
On 10/09/10 12:15, Bilal Akhtar wrote: > On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 14:57, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: > >> Done at https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/indicator-session/+bug/634003 > Fix available as well! Branches attached to bug report contain fix. Ted, what's the status of this? Mark signature.asc D

Re: [Ayatana] the Window Title Bar is now diamonds

2010-12-16 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
On 15/09/10 19:01, frederik.nn...@gmail.com wrote: > I suggest removing the minimize button in this case, and also to trade > in "maximize" for "full screen". > In Fullscreen Mode, i suggest every app that has the fullscreen button > in its window decoration, should carry a "windowed" button in its

Re: [Ayatana] Presence via Me Menu

2010-12-16 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
On 09/09/10 11:00, Frederik Nnaji wrote: > I was hoping Mission Control 5 in Telepathy would make it possible to > change back to "online", "away" or "busy", even when Empathy says my > accounts are "offline". > Another thing is, that i'm being logged out, not sent offline. My > computer is still o