Re: [Ayatana] Unity - Web and People

2010-11-02 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
On 03/11/10 02:12, Stuart Langridge wrote: On Wed, 2010-11-03 at 01:52 +0100, frederik nnaji wrote: i love this thread! Do you have access to Evolution Contacts also? Or perhaps Thunderbird? Evolution used to have a plugin that could exchange contacts with Pidgin! Gnome Do already merged Pidgi

Re: [Ayatana] Unity - Web and People

2010-11-02 Thread Seif Lotfy
On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 2:27 AM, frederik nnaji wrote: > On 03/11/10 01:58, Seif Lotfy wrote: > >> It is easy to access evolution and Thunderbird activities. Its on the top >> of our list ATM. It is not in zeitgeist domain to merge contacts etc. We can >> just tell you how you use the contacts. So

Re: [Ayatana] Unity - Web and People

2010-11-02 Thread frederik nnaji
On 03/11/10 01:58, Seif Lotfy wrote: It is easy to access evolution and Thunderbird activities. Its on the top of our list ATM. It is not in zeitgeist domain to merge contacts etc. We can just tell you how you use the contacts. So all I can offer is to map the contacts from zeitgeist to U1 or l

Re: [Ayatana] Unity - Web and People

2010-11-02 Thread Stuart Langridge
On Wed, 2010-11-03 at 01:52 +0100, frederik nnaji wrote: > i love this thread! > Do you have access to Evolution Contacts also? > Or perhaps Thunderbird? > Evolution used to have a plugin that could exchange contacts with > Pidgin! > Gnome Do already merged Pidgin contacts with Evolution contacts,

Re: [Ayatana] Unity - Web and People

2010-11-02 Thread Seif Lotfy
It is easy to access evolution and Thunderbird activities. Its on the top of our list ATM. It is not in zeitgeist domain to merge contacts etc. We can just tell you how you use the contacts. So all I can offer is to map the contacts from zeitgeist to U1 or libfolks :) Again I think this is currentl

Re: [Ayatana] Unity - Web and People

2010-11-02 Thread frederik nnaji
On 03/11/10 01:29, Seif Lotfy wrote: Hey, For the U1 contacts I can work it out easily. We already have a telepathy logger. I will patch it up for ubuntu to actually map the contacts from telepathy with U1 and log them into Zeitgeist. This will allow me to easily populate the view with "Recent

Re: [Ayatana] How to handle multi-window launcher icons

2010-11-02 Thread Christian Giordano
> > Hi David, I'm not sure we're understanding each other here. When you mention expose > there, are you talking about the same expose effect Unity does now when you > click the workspace switcher? Or about the desktop spread I was proposing? > I mean expose like Compiz/MacOS expose, what Unity d

Re: [Ayatana] Unity - Web and People

2010-11-02 Thread frederik nnaji
On 03/11/10 01:16, Stuart Langridge wrote: On Tue, 2010-11-02 at 20:03 -0400, Alex Launi wrote: It seems like a U1 contacts backend to libfolks would be the most robust approach. This is definitely something we'd like to do. I've already tipped off kenvandine that I'd like to talk ab

Re: [Ayatana] Unity - Web and People

2010-11-02 Thread Seif Lotfy
Hey, For the U1 contacts I can work it out easily. We already have a telepathy logger. I will patch it up for ubuntu to actually map the contacts from telepathy with U1 and log them into Zeitgeist. This will allow me to easily populate the view with "Recently Contacted" as well as "Frequently Conta

Re: [Ayatana] Unity - Web and People

2010-11-02 Thread Stuart Langridge
On Tue, 2010-11-02 at 20:03 -0400, Alex Launi wrote: > It seems like a U1 contacts backend to libfolks would be the most robust > approach. > This is definitely something we'd like to do. I've already tipped off kenvandine that I'd like to talk about how libfolks and Ubuntu One and gwibber all fi

Re: [Ayatana] Why are the MeMenu and the messaging applet two separate things?

2010-11-02 Thread frederik nnaji
On 02/11/10 22:25, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 David Prieto wrote on 02/11/10 07:39: I originally sent this as a question for Askubuntu, but got no reply: http://askubuntu.com/questions/10688/why-are-the-memenu-and-the-messaging-applet-two-separ

Re: [Ayatana] Unity - Web and People

2010-11-02 Thread Alex Launi
It seems like a U1 contacts backend to libfolks would be the most robust approach. -- Alex Launi Ubuntu Desktop Experience Team ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.

Re: [Ayatana] Why are the MeMenu and the messaging applet two separate things?

2010-11-02 Thread David Hamm
@http://i.imgur.com/kkiPP.png https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Ayatana/FileContextMenu https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundMenu at least it follows a well tested and approved pattern. I say go for it! ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayat

Re: [Ayatana] Why are the MeMenu and the messaging applet two separate things?

2010-11-02 Thread David Prieto
Hi Matthew, Only because no-one has done the design work necessary to work out how > to merge them. Would you like to have a go? > Well, I'm probably leaving a ton of stuff out but the most obvious way to merge them and still include EVERYTHING would be this: http://i.imgur.com/kkiPP.png You ca

Re: [Ayatana] Global Menu on the Desktop

2010-11-02 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andrew Laignel wrote on 01/11/10 14:35: > > One thought on the global menu is one of scope. Window controls, tab > controls and many other actions, as a general rule, only affect things > within their indicated container. A tab control that affects t

Re: [Ayatana] Why are the MeMenu and the messaging applet two separate things?

2010-11-02 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 David Prieto wrote on 02/11/10 07:39: > > I originally sent this as a question for Askubuntu, but got no reply: > > http://askubuntu.com/questions/10688/why-are-the-memenu-and-the-messaging-applet-two-separate-things > > "When I look at them, their fun

Re: [Ayatana] Global Menu on the Desktop

2010-11-02 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Luke Benstead wrote on 01/11/10 13:40: >... > When they were implemented in UNE we had a great blog post by MPT about > the reasoning: http://design.canonical.com/2010/05/menu-bar/ > > It made sense. Netbooks have limited vertical space, UNE focuses o

Re: [Ayatana] Unity - Web and People

2010-11-02 Thread Stuart Langridge
On Tue, 2010-10-26 at 15:56 +0200, Seif Lotfy wrote: > Yeah Zeitgeist will tell you most used and recently used etc... The > metadata will be pulled form libfolks or telepathy. We just know when > these people and how often they were contacted. The best long-term way to do this is probably to ba

Re: [Ayatana] Unity - Web and People

2010-11-02 Thread Matt Griffin
Hi Frederik, > > 7. Ubuntu One contact sync > > > > Export to Google Contacts would be a step into that direction. > Ubuntu One contact sync has never worked for me, i don't know on what > basis the devs decided they now have evidence that their > implementation now works.. Cont

Re: [Ayatana] How to handle multi-window launcher icons

2010-11-02 Thread David Prieto
Hi Christian, I personally think that expose could be too much of a change for a simply > roll over action. This doesn't mean that we can't give a clue from the roll > over to make the click=>expose more predictable. > I'm not sure we're understanding each other here. When you mention expose ther

Re: [Ayatana] How to handle multi-window launcher icons

2010-11-02 Thread Christian Giordano
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 1:48 PM, David Prieto wrote: > Consider that a user without a touch screen wouldn't even notice that the > second method exists, since the spread would be there as soon as he hovered > his cursor over the icon, without having to keep it pressed. I personally think that ex

Re: [Ayatana] Unity - Web and People

2010-11-02 Thread frederik nnaji
On 02/11/10 17:21, Anzan Hoshin Roshi wrote: On 2 November 2010 12:19, Luke Benstead > wrote: Here's what I'd love from a "People" place: 1. The ability to import contacts from Gmail 2. The ability to easily merge/edit contacts these are the points r

Re: [Ayatana] Unity - Web and People

2010-11-02 Thread Anzan Hoshin Roshi
On 2 November 2010 12:19, Luke Benstead wrote: > > >> > Here's what I'd love from a "People" place: > > 1. The ability to import contacts from Gmail > 2. The ability to easily merge/edit contacts > 3. The ability to email, IM, Tweet, Skype a contact > 4. The ability to transfer a file to a contact

Re: [Ayatana] Unity - Web and People

2010-11-02 Thread Luke Benstead
> On 02/11/10 16:05, Seif Lotfy wrote: > >> >> I am trying to figure how would be the best way to do it. If the feedback >> is ok on the ayatana side i think i could have the "backend" done within 2 - >> 3 weeks >> Cheers >> Seif >> > > Here's what I'd love from a "People" place: 1. The ability to

Re: [Ayatana] Unity - Web and People

2010-11-02 Thread frederik nnaji
On 02/11/10 16:05, Seif Lotfy wrote: I am trying to figure how would be the best way to do it. If the feedback is ok on the ayatana side i think i could have the "backend" done within 2 - 3 weeks Cheers Seif that would be awesome! I can see (from a bird's perspective) that we currently have

Re: [Ayatana] Global Menu on the Desktop

2010-11-02 Thread frederik nnaji
On 01/11/10 20:35, Dean Loros wrote: As far as I am concerned---any upper bar wastes space.The first thing I do on a new install is remove the upper panel/bar & use AWN for my lower panel--yes I know that it "looks" like OSX that way, but it fits my workflow better (maybe because I'm a old-

Re: [Ayatana] Unity - Web and People

2010-11-02 Thread Seif Lotfy
On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 4:00 PM, Oscar RdG wrote: > Hi there! > > On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 3:56 PM, Seif Lotfy wrote: > >> Hi Frederik, >> >> Yeah Zeitgeist will tell you most used and recently used etc... The >> metadata will be pulled form libfolks or telepathy. We just know when these >> people

Re: [Ayatana] Unity - Web and People

2010-11-02 Thread Oscar RdG
Hi there! On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 3:56 PM, Seif Lotfy wrote: > Hi Frederik, > > Yeah Zeitgeist will tell you most used and recently used etc... The > metadata will be pulled form libfolks or telepathy. We just know when these > people and how often they were contacted. > As I can read on [1]: "

Re: [Ayatana] Why are the MeMenu and the messaging applet two separate things?

2010-11-02 Thread Joern Konopka
I actually wondered about this too, if i remember correctly this question was raised before ( i can't recall the thread, sorry ) and ( as expected by so many smart people around here ;) there has been good reasoning and logical validation for this topic. But let me add my personal opinion befo

[Ayatana] Why are the MeMenu and the messaging applet two separate things?

2010-11-02 Thread David Prieto
I originally sent this as a question for Askubuntu, but got no reply: http://askubuntu.com/questions/10688/why-are-the-memenu-and-the-messaging-applet-two-separate-things "When I look at them, their functionality seems to overlap so much that they could almost be merged: - The MA is used to o