Re: [Ayatana] persistent awareness

2010-09-27 Thread David Hamm
basically my logic is this, close button = no distractions minimize, notification. open, open. close a transfer and when it finishes it creates a notification like an event. Of course this reminds me of rhythmbox, which plays music when closed. something that I know for a fact annoys Windows inco

Re: [Ayatana] persistent awareness

2010-09-27 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 18:29, Dylan McCall wrote: > This presents a nice opportunity to eliminate a lot of duplicated effort. > well put ;) ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https:

Re: [Ayatana] persistent awareness

2010-09-27 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 17:56, David Hamm wrote: > "With a persistent indicator for activity or progress, we can also see, > when the computer is idle: very important state to be aware of!" > > So if i'm downloading something in firebox that computer is still idle > because it's not in the indica

Re: [Ayatana] persistent awareness

2010-09-27 Thread David Hamm
Look at the current software center. People aren't complaining that there's no progress menu when they close it. The software center just understands - like a secretary - that you don't want to be bugged about the task at all. If I wanted, i could go talk to her. aka open the software center back u

Re: [Ayatana] persistent awareness

2010-09-27 Thread Dylan McCall
Salomon Sickert worked on this area with a Summer of Code 2010 project for Gnome. Lots and lots of information in the wiki page: http://live.gnome.org/SummerOfCode2010/SalomonSickert_Tasks This presents a nice opportunity to eliminate a lot of duplicated effort. Dylan ___

Re: [Ayatana] persistent awareness

2010-09-27 Thread Jan Claeys
Op maandag 27-09-2010 om 09:02 uur [tijdzone -0700], schreef David Hamm: > Obviously the user wants to see what the progress is, hence a progress > bar, so why hide it in a menu. For an action that the user wants or needs to wait for, a dialog window or other widget with a visible progress bar is

Re: [Ayatana] persistent awareness

2010-09-27 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
Hi David, On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 18:02, David Hamm wrote: > Obviously the user wants to see what the progress is, hence a progress bar, > so why hide it in a menu. > putting it in a menu is giving it extra redundant availability, in this case in a consistent "place", accessible at all times, p

Re: [Ayatana] persistent awareness

2010-09-27 Thread David Hamm
Obviously the user wants to see what the progress is, hence a progress bar, so why hide it in a menu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : htt

Re: [Ayatana] persistent awareness

2010-09-27 Thread David Hamm
"With a persistent indicator for activity or progress, we can also see, when the computer is idle: very important state to be aware of!" So if i'm downloading something in firebox that computer is still idle because it's not in the indicator menu? What about 3rd party applications? "transmission

[Ayatana] persistent awareness

2010-09-27 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
hello list, examples of persistent controls, persistent indicators are the new indicator menus in our panel, me menu, messaging menu, session menu, sound menu. other examples are the network indicator, which is currently in the notification area, or the bluetooth indicator. *"persistent awarenes

Re: [Ayatana] Indicator Attention State

2010-09-27 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
for the monochrome indicators we currently have the following mapping: saturated = active, enabled unsaturated = inactive, disabled green = new incoming message red = warning, alert in this respect, the network icon is not showing the correct semantics when you untick "Enable Networking", while o

Re: [Ayatana] Indicator Attention State

2010-09-27 Thread Owais Lone
Or is the attention icon in both the default themes green? :P My bad... but still taking other themes into consideration this can be a problem. On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 1:58 PM, Owais Lone wrote: > Currently the attention state of the indicators or the messaging menu > solely depends on the icon

[Ayatana] Indicator Attention State

2010-09-27 Thread Owais Lone
Currently the attention state of the indicators or the messaging menu solely depends on the icon from the current theme. I've noticed that most of the users miss the attention state after changing the icon theme. For example, in Ambiance the attention icon for messaging menu is Green and that for