Re: [Ayatana] [Usability] The Future of Window Borders, Menu Bars, and More

2010-08-09 Thread Allan Caeg
Not showing the branding while the app is running may reduce cognitive load, just like what MPT said. However, there are issues with this. *Apps that are supposed to do the same things have differences that many people know or need to know.* Whenever I'm browsing, I have to know that it's Firefox,

Re: [Ayatana] [Usability] The Future of Window Borders, Menu Bars, and More

2010-08-09 Thread Martin Owens
Ryan, On Mon, 2010-08-09 at 11:22 -0500, Ryan Peters wrote: > While browsers might not be focused on branding, that branding is > still > there. My point, however, isn't the branding, but the fact that there > is > a brand. If we treated every web browser as "web browser" or every > email > cli

Re: [Ayatana] [Usability] The Future of Window Borders, Menu Bars, and More

2010-08-09 Thread Ryan Peters
On 08/09/2010 05:56 AM, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ryan Peters wrote on 07/08/10 20:12: On 08/07/2010 08:46 AM, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: ... In this scenario someone is using (for example) Calculator, Banshee, Empathy, Gmail, Amazon, CNN, Farmvi

Re: [Ayatana] Time & Date indicator settings dialog

2010-08-09 Thread Mohammed Amine IL Idrissi
Sure, I'll take this into consideration - but I'd like someone to answer my "questions" first :-) On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 10:42 PM, Andrew Laignel wrote: > Can I make an observation on the date/time control? I found that the > calendars on a large amount of my public facing terminals kept having

Re: [Ayatana] [Usability] The Future of Window Borders, Menu Bars, and More

2010-08-09 Thread Apoorva Sharma
On Aug 9, 2010, at 5:56 AM, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Ryan Peters wrote on 07/08/10 20:12: >> >> It makes more sense for "Preferences" to go >> under the "Application" menu than a "Tools" or "Edit" menu, doesn't it? > > Yes, it does -- a

Re: [Ayatana] [Usability] The Future of Window Borders, Menu Bars, and More

2010-08-09 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ryan Peters wrote on 07/08/10 20:12: > > On 08/07/2010 08:46 AM, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: >... >> In this scenario someone is using (for example) Calculator, Banshee, >> Empathy, Gmail, Amazon, CNN, Farmville, the Gundam AnimeSuki Forum, >> and Hulu

Re: [Ayatana] [Usability] The Future of Window Borders, Menu Bars, and More

2010-08-09 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Vishnoo wrote on 07/08/10 19:59: > > On Sat, 2010-08-07 at 14:46 +0100, Matthew Paul Thomas >... >> In Ubuntu 9.10 and later, the application icon does not appear in the >> window title bar, partly for the same reason (it's not relevant to >> user goal