[Ayatana] Maximizing Windicators

Hi, This is the first time I've posted to this list, so please forgive me if I'm doing something wrong. First of all, I really like the idea of window status indicators. It could be an extremely useful feature. I've also heard that in unity, maximizing the window would add the windicators to the

Re: [Ayatana] Chrome desktop notifications (and APIs)

> what's with the window that fades in when the computer is receiving a > file via bluetooth? > am i completely off track here? Just tested it in Lucid. Unless I have a buggy NotifyOSD or didn't understand what you are talking about, this is just a common popup and not a morphing window/alert at

Re: [Ayatana] [Starfish-team] Secure Identity Design

"Paul Tagliamonte" wrote: >On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 4:14 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: >> >> >> "David Hamm" wrote: >> >>>"Making friends with others" This "Starfish" sounds like a much bigger and >>>more important feature then at first thought. Is this going to >>>be integrated into ubuntu one?

Re: [Ayatana] Secure Identity Design

On Mon, 2010-06-21 at 16:14 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: > This needs to be handled very carefully. GPG web of trust is about trusting > identity to be accurate. It's got nothing to do with social media concepts > like Facebook friends. > Scott K It's both, the most important part is the secur

Re: [Ayatana] Secure Identity Design

s/someone/somewhat On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 4:25 PM, Scott E. Armitage < launch...@scott.armitage.name> wrote: > Agreed. Users that build GPG networks without proper trust controls could > actually /decrease/ their level of security. Having said that, the current > implementation is someone compli

Re: [Ayatana] Secure Identity Design

Agreed. Users that build GPG networks without proper trust controls could actually /decrease/ their level of security. Having said that, the current implementation is someone complicated and poorly documented. I have but one trusted "friend" on my current network, and that took the better part of a

Re: [Ayatana] [Starfish-team] Secure Identity Design

On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 4:14 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > > "David Hamm" wrote: > >>"Making friends with others" This "Starfish" sounds like a much bigger and >>more important feature then at first thought. Is this going to >>be integrated into ubuntu one? >> >>One of the best things since butt

Re: [Ayatana] Secure Identity Design

"David Hamm" wrote: >"Making friends with others" This "Starfish" sounds like a much bigger and >more important feature then at first thought. Is this going to >be integrated into ubuntu one? > >One of the best things since buttered toast is being able to sync user >information across platforms

Re: [Ayatana] Papercut or not? Bug #495403 in On e Hundred Paper Cuts: “Do not raise windows o r dialogs without user input”

2010/6/21 Matthew Paul Thomas > >> So how do you define "started doing something else"? > > > > Something else is mouse and/or keyboard activity in an other > > application. > > So how do you define "activity"? > > If the mouse button is actually *down*, or a keyboard key is actually > *pressed*,

Re: [Ayatana] [Starfish-team] Secure Identity Design

Hey, Paul here, another developer with this project, On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 3:31 PM, Shane Fagan wrote: > Hey Martin, > > > I wouldnt recommend adding it to the me-menu at all. Putting it in > accessories and just having it there would be a lot better. The reason Humm, I can see how this would

Re: [Ayatana] Secure Identity Design

"Making friends with others" This "Starfish" sounds like a much bigger and more important feature then at first thought. Is this going to be integrated into ubuntu one? One of the best things since buttered toast is being able to sync user information across platforms, and the ease of contacting/a

Re: [Ayatana] Updating UI issues

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Re: [Ayatana] Updating UI issues

Hey David, You cant get much simpler than a checkbox IMO. I can see what you are going for but id prefer something a little bit simpler the words show/ignore/important..etc are very important words and shouldnt be used mainly because it puts people off using it out of fear that they are doing some

Re: [Ayatana] Secure Identity Design

Hey Martin, I wouldnt recommend adding it to the me-menu at all. Putting it in accessories and just having it there would be a lot better. The reason is kinda obvious most users dont use gpg keys and wouldnt have any need for them to be there. Maybe you could add it to about-me instead. Great id

Re: [Ayatana] Secure Identity Design

On Mon, 2010-06-21 at 14:55 -0400, Martin Owens wrote: > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Starfish/Design I guess most users will not think "email" on reading "Secure Online Identity". Of course it's hard to find something that fits in a menu. What is this really about? - Prove of identity (your own and

Re: [Ayatana] Papercut or not? Bug #495403 in One Hundr ed Paper Cuts: “Do not raise windows or dialog s without user input”

> So, we've gone as far as ignoring raise requests 0.5 seconds after the > last release event. But what about one whole second after? Two seconds? > Three? Five? Ten? You're still looking at length of time, which I don't think is relevant. We could define this length of time, though, as exactly th

Re: [Ayatana] Secure Identity Design

On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Martin Owens wrote: > Dear Ayatana, > > Myself and a few others have been working on a concept to improve the > functionality and ease of use of the gpg key system we use. This project > code named starfish[1] would be hopefully something average users can > disco

Re: [Ayatana] Updating UI issues

I'd say its simper then https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareUpdateHandling#Update settings and it collapses 2 tabs into one. Yes, Community/other could be merged into one, recommended/trusted as well, proposed/unsuported could be moved to the sources tab. However this keeps similar accessibility as t

[Ayatana] Secure Identity Design

Dear Ayatana, Myself and a few others have been working on a concept to improve the functionality and ease of use of the gpg key system we use. This project code named starfish[1] would be hopefully something average users can discover and take advantage of as well as making it easier for us geeks

Re: [Ayatana] Updating UI issues

Looks very complicated to me. I know what it does but what about new users? On Mon, 2010-06-21 at 11:36 -0700, David Hamm wrote: > xcf has possible menu options. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net

Re: [Ayatana] Papercut or not? Bug #495403 in One Hundr ed Paper Cuts: “Do not raise windows or dialog s without user input”

OK, I didn't express myself clearly here: >>> So when should the window manager switch from assuming >>> you want a new window focused, to assuming you don't? >> >> When you deliberately focus another window. > > That's assuming the question. Whether you "deliberately focus another > window" is wh

Re: [Ayatana] Papercut or not? Bug #495403 in One Hundr ed Paper Cuts: “Do not raise windows or dialogs witho ut user input”

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Frederik Nnaji wrote on 21/06/10 16:44: > > On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 10:00, Matthew Paul Thomas ... >> Greg K Nicholson wrote on 29/05/10 02:05: >>> >>> I suggest that if you haven't had time to focus another window (i.e. >>> if you haven't started doin

Re: [Ayatana] Chrome desktop notifications (and APIs)

> won't ubuntu generally display morphing windows instead of > notification bubbles for apps that want interactivity in their > notifications? You mean "should"? If I remember correctly, morphing windows and morhping alert boxes are not implemented yet. __

Re: [Ayatana] Chrome desktop notifications (and APIs)

On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 13:23, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: > The current draft also has this use case: "A calendar application alerts > the user for an upcoming meeting, and allows the user to easily specify > a 'snooze' delay of several possible time periods." I don't see how the > draft API would

Re: [Ayatana] Me Menu - Review

On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 11:42, James Putt wrote: > Whether colours come or not, I'd like to suggest some refinements for > the existing (lucid) set. > i'm curious.. > Something that confuses me is the offline icon's similarity to the > "i'm visible" states' icons. thank you. the problem i ha

Re: [Ayatana] Papercut or not? Bug #495403 in One Hundr ed Paper Cuts: “Do not raise windows or dialog s without user input”

i need to add this: after launching an app from whatever menu, there are two directions to move interaction into: * towards the loading app * away from the loading app. * there is no neutral behaviour.. * A progress window should be displayed as a placeholder, until an app finishes loading. Now w

Re: [Ayatana] Papercut or not? Bug #495403 in One Hundr ed Paper Cuts: “Do not raise windows or dialog s without user input”

On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 10:00, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: > > Greg K Nicholson wrote on 29/05/10 02:05: > >> So when should the window manager switch from assuming > >> you want a new window focused, to assuming you don't? > > >> After five seconds? Ten? Twenty? > > > > It shouldn't be timed. > ye

Re: [Ayatana] Updating UI issues

On Mon, 2010-06-21 at 08:28 -0700, David Hamm wrote: > "https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareUpdateHandling#Installing"; > > > did someone mentions Transformers? > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akNJ6S2UqsE > > > apologies ahead of time, transformers are awesome. > > > On a more professional note.

Re: [Ayatana] Updating UI issues

"https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareUpdateHandling#Installing"; did someone mentions Transformers? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akNJ6S2UqsE apologies ahead of time, transformers are awesome. On a more professional note. Android recently added a check box to all apps in their "software center" to

Re: [Ayatana] GNOME Main Menu and the Distribution Logo

Aesthetically speaking, I can only imagine the logo looking respectable in a corner. Or at least, I'm having a hard time imagining it anywhere else and look credible. I think it's fine as it is, but it's an interesting idea. The systems mentioned ( Mac and Windows ), they are positioned in the mos

Re: [Ayatana] Two suggested designs for the Sound Indicator

On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 09:35, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Diego Moya wrote on 08/05/10 00:20: > >... > > On 7 May 2010 15:58, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: > >> > >> About the title of the menu, Diego Moya wrote on 04/05/10 20:20: > > And one

Re: [Ayatana] The reboot required notification during updates

> When you're still upgrading the 'reboot required' notification is > already showing up in the session indicator at the right top of the > screen. This happens at least during release upgrades. > > However, rebooting when the system is installing something is not the > best idea, so maybe the up

[Ayatana] The reboot required notification during updates

Hello, When you're still upgrading the 'reboot required' notification is already showing up in the session indicator at the right top of the screen. This happens at least during release upgrades. However, rebooting when the system is installing something is not the best idea, so maybe the updater

Re: [Ayatana] GNOME Main Menu and the Distribution Logo

On 2010-06-21, David Siegel wrote: > In Unity, the Ubuntu button toggles the Dash. > > In GNOME Shell, we could do as David Hamm suggests and "weld" an Ubuntu logo > there for consistency with UNE. We could even replace the word "Activities" > with the Ubuntu button. > > David the current single

Re: [Ayatana] Chrome desktop notifications (and APIs)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Martin Owens wrote on 21/06/10 11:47: > > On Mon, 2010-06-21 at 10:46 +0100, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: >> >> If you are referring to Ubuntu's notification bubbles, Chrome's >> notification API is fundamentally incompatible with Ubuntu >> notificatio

Re: [Ayatana] Updating UI issues

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Shane Fagan wrote on 20/06/10 09:47: > On Sun, 2010-06-20 at 03:13 +0100, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: >... >> #1 priority: Fix the update settings interface so it matches reality. >> > > This on

Re: [Ayatana] Chrome desktop notifications (and APIs)

On Mon, 2010-06-21 at 10:46 +0100, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: > If you are referring to Ubuntu's notification bubbles, Chrome's > notification API is fundamentally incompatible with Ubuntu > notification > bubbles. It is also fundamentally incompatible with Windows > notification > balloons, and wi

Re: [Ayatana] Papercut or not? Bug #495403 in One Hundr ed Paper Cuts: “Do not raise windows or dialogs witho ut user input”

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greg K Nicholson wrote on 29/05/10 02:05: > >> That is precisely what it does, and has done for years. But it will >> always be guessing. If you're watching a video and it mentions an >> unfamiliar word, and you launch the Dictionary to look it up, and

Re: [Ayatana] Papercut or not? Bug #495403 in One Hundr ed Paper Cuts: “Do not raise windows or dialogs witho ut user input”

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Frederik Nnaji wrote on 30/05/10 15:36: >... > On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 12:31, Matthew Paul Thomas ... >> So when should the window manager switch from assuming you want a >> new window focused, to assuming you don't? After five seconds? Ten? >> Twenty?

Re: [Ayatana] Chrome desktop notifications (and APIs)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alex Lourie wrote on 01/06/10 13:48: >... > I've just read about new (or, rather new) desktop notifications that > are or going to be provided with Chrome APIs [1] (And that's awesome, > as this may help developing interesting workflows with browser).

Re: [Ayatana] Two suggested designs for the Sound Indicator

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Diego Moya wrote on 08/05/10 00:20: >... > On 7 May 2010 15:58, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: >> >> About the title of the menu, Diego Moya wrote on 04/05/10 20:20: > And one feature I miss is having a volume slider always shown in >> This is perhaps

Re: [Ayatana] Me Menu - Review

On 20 June 2010 02:31, Frederik Nnaji wrote: > Hi James, > > On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 01:02, James Putt wrote: >> >> > * presence settings >> >  available, away, busy, invisible, offline >> >  now we could work on the wording here.. offline is ambiguous for >> > example, perhaps call that one "sig

Re: [Ayatana] GNOME Main Menu and the Distribution Logo

In Unity, the Ubuntu button toggles the Dash. In GNOME Shell, we could do as David Hamm suggests and "weld" an Ubuntu logo there for consistency with UNE. We could even replace the word "Activities" with the Ubuntu button. David On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 5:35 PM, David Hamm wrote: > "I don't thi