Re: [Ayatana] Fwd: Open Letter: The issues with client-side-window-decorations

2010-06-11 Thread Sam Spilsbury
On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 12:12 AM, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: > On 09/06/10 18:02, Martin Gräßlin wrote: >> Please tell me you are joking. After all the arguments I presented you still >> think CSD is the road to go? You completely ignore my arguments, you actually >> have not even read my arguments

[Ayatana] Application Menu Status for 11 June

2010-06-11 Thread Jorge O. Castro
Hi everyone! I see people have already begun to file new bugs as soon as we landed some new bits today so here are the highlights! Today was the day we synced up everything in both Maverick and the Lucid Unity PPA, so everyone should be running the same thing (thanks to the hard work of the deskto

Re: [Ayatana] Putting some brakes on the enthusiasm

2010-06-11 Thread Scott Kitterman
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Re: [Ayatana] Putting some brakes on the enthusiasm

2010-06-11 Thread David Hamm
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Re: [Ayatana] Fwd: Open Letter: The issues with client-side-window-decorations

2010-06-11 Thread David Hamm
"I just don't understand why having two theme engines is better than one." "A hung window can still be easily closed when using CSD because the position of the close button will be known to the window manager and clicks there handled appropriately even if the client fails to process them." "What

Re: [Ayatana] Fwd: Open Letter: The issues with client-side-window-decorations

2010-06-11 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
On 09/06/10 18:02, Martin Gräßlin wrote: > Please tell me you are joking. After all the arguments I presented you still > think CSD is the road to go? You completely ignore my arguments, you actually > have not even read my arguments or you would know that some things like > closing hung windows

Re: [Ayatana] Fwd: Open Letter: The issues with client-side-window-decorations

2010-06-11 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
On 09/06/10 19:23, Conscious User wrote: > Now, I'd feel a lot more confortable if someone steps > in and says "a hung window can still be easily closed > when using CSD because of technical reasons X, Y and Z". > A hung window can still be easily closed when using CSD because the position of t

Re: [Ayatana] Idea: windicator add-ons, an extensible window border

2010-06-11 Thread Christian Giordano
So you would mainly create this API for final users for the file system or also for the global menu? I am just a bit concerned that there will be too many windicators (with consequentially too similar icons). The operations you can do with files in the filesystem can be so many. I like personaliza

Re: [Ayatana] Idea: windicator add-ons, an extensible window border

2010-06-11 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
On 11/06/10 10:08, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: > The ideal screenshot tool would instantly take a screenshot of the whole > screen, *and* one of the current window, just in case you wanted either > of those, and *then* show its own interface giving you the option of > saving/publishing either of the

Re: [Ayatana] Idea: windicator add-ons, an extensible window border

2010-06-11 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sense Hofstede wrote on 03/05/10 20:24: >... > Without sacrificing usability, clarity and consistency I think that > the windicators could also make a great place for add-ons. It would be > only fair to allow e.g. Dropbox to write its own windicator. B