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On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 7:46 PM, Frederik Nnaji
wrote:
> hi sam
>
> On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 03:41, Sam Spilsbury wrote:
>>
>> So the window controls are essentially invisible unless you play a
>> hide an seek game with your mouse? I don't understand why you'd want
>> this - and it requires some f
On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Frederik Nnaji
wrote:
> hi sam
>
> On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 03:41, Sam Spilsbury wrote:
>>
>> So the window controls are essentially invisible unless you play a
>> hide an seek game with your mouse? I don't understand why you'd want
>> this - and it requires some
hi sam
On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 03:41, Sam Spilsbury wrote:
> So the window controls are essentially invisible unless you play a
> hide an seek game with your mouse? I don't understand why you'd want
> this - and it requires some form of meaningful acceleration within
> apps, something that I don
>I've not been keeping a close eye on this discussion (so it may have
>already been mentioned) but Mark Shuttleworth mentioned that CSD aren't
>a requirement for windicators:
>
Yes, it's been brought up already. He said the same thing this week at the
Ubuntu Developer Summit (UDS) in Brussels. T
On Sun, 2010-05-16 at 04:06 +0200, Frederik Nnaji wrote:
> On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 03:15, Luke Morton
> wrote:
>
> We can't really rely on the super key (as others have
> mentioned).
> nobody said "rely on"
I did :) And I just meant we can't count on it being there so at
On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 03:15, Luke Morton wrote:
> We can't really rely on the super key (as others have mentioned).
>
nobody said "rely on"
some internet kiosk keyboards have no ALT or CTRL even..
most keyboards profide super key, even apple.
let's work with that it for now..
It would be nice
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 9:59 PM, Dylan McCall wrote:
> On Fri, 2010-05-14 at 21:05 +0530, Akshat Jain wrote:
>> Link Copy-Pasta
>> http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2010/05/why-you-should-not-use-client-side-window-decorations/
>> http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2010/05/follow-up-on-clie
On Sat, 2010-05-15 at 14:45 -0600, Jeremy Nickurak wrote:
> What about just having a protocol for saying "here's something the
> application would like to implement", ala the existing indicator
> applet. Different implementations could do different things with it. A
> compliant window-manager might
On Sat, 2010-05-15 at 15:37 -0700, Tyler Brainerd wrote:
> I'll try to be brief. Currently, alt tab moves between windows.
> Ctrl-Tab moves between tabs in some programs, not all. Special (Win
> Key) and tab does nothing.
> It would kinda make more sense if we did this: Ctrl-Tab moves between
> tab
hi Anzan
On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 02:33, Anzan Hoshin Roshi <
anzanhoshinro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> okay, so let's just give the "special" workspaces the "special" case of
>> Superkey-Tab to switch, no?
>>
>
>
> No, there's no "super" key. Just Fn Ctrl Alt then spacebar. I have this on
> an R40, T
On 15 May 2010 20:29, Frederik Nnaji wrote:
> On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 01:02, Anzan Hoshin Roshi <
> anzanhoshinro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On 15 May 2010 18:52, Tyler Brainerd wrote:
>>
>>> Er. Shoot. Thinkpads don't have them at all?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> No. Perhaps the newest onesfrom Lenovo
On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 01:02, Anzan Hoshin Roshi <
anzanhoshinro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> On 15 May 2010 18:52, Tyler Brainerd wrote:
>
>> Er. Shoot. Thinkpads don't have them at all?
>>
>>
>>
> No. Perhaps the newest onesfrom Lenovo might though the travel boards I
> bought last year still di
I originally posted this as a question at Ayatana:
https://answers.launchpad.net/ayatana-ubuntu/+question/110648
But thought I'd try this approach, please be kind.
As I found out iso-testing prior to Lucid Beta 1
the Live CD now requires user interaction to display menu options:
https://bugs.l
Grüß Gott, Thorsten ;)
> 2010/5/14 Thorsten Wilms :
> > This is totally unrealistic. Humans can't even walk or talk without
> > learning.
> >
> > Some say the nipple would be the only intuitive interface. I've been
> > told that not even breast feeding just works on first try ...
>
you're a rea
On 15 May 2010 18:52, Tyler Brainerd wrote:
> Er. Shoot. Thinkpads don't have them at all?
>
>
>
No. Perhaps the newest onesfrom Lenovo might though the travel boards I
bought last year still did not. After OS2, IBM wouldn't give them the
satisfaction of a Windows key.
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1 master slider per audio interface seems reasonable to me.
I can't think of any other exceptional case outside VoIP, i which i'd
automate a behaviour like the headphone / speaker autonomy suggested.
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 00:16, Sense Hofstede wrote:
> Standards are awesome. Use them.
>
+1
M
On 15 May 2010 18:37, Tyler Brainerd wrote:
> I'll try to be brief. Currently, alt tab moves between windows. Ctrl-Tab
> moves between tabs in some programs, not all. Special (Win Key) and tab does
> nothing.
> It would kinda make more sense if we did this: Ctrl-Tab moves between tabs,
> system w
I'll try to be brief. Currently, alt tab moves between windows. Ctrl-Tab
moves between tabs in some programs, not all. Special (Win Key) and tab does
nothing.
It would kinda make more sense if we did this: Ctrl-Tab moves between tabs,
system wide. Special and tab moves between windows (the old stan
" Why does a title bar have to be at the top of its respective
window? This causes a serious usability problem when a window is
Alt+Dragged above the screen: only the bottom part is visible,
so it's impossible to drag it back unless you know how it got
there. I actually
errrmm ... whow, Dylan!
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 23:59, Dylan McCall wrote:
> I was really looking forward to client-side decorations, but Martin has
> pretty thoroughly changed my tune. I think there's a different problem
> that needs to be solved: there is a doomed effort right now to make
> wi
ne ither windows or apple has such a dedicated app to the session. both have
it underneath the primary menu, and both have it on the left.
I agree. I was actually discussing this very thing a few days ago in the
comments of some blog.
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 7:55 AM, Frederik Nnaji wrote:
> On
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 23:01, Alex Lourie wrote:
>
> On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 7:51 PM, Frederik Nnaji
> wrote:
>
>>
>> User testing has revealed that single click comes more intuitively to
>> users than double click.
>>
>>
> Would you care to elaborate on that? What user testing?
>
okay you cau
On Fri, 2010-05-14 at 21:05 +0530, Akshat Jain wrote:
> Link Copy-Pasta
> http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2010/05/why-you-should-not-use-client-side-window-decorations/
> http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2010/05/follow-up-on-client-side-decorations/
>
> This guy named Martin Gräßlin is
I agree. Both gwibber and evolution suck hard, and the basic integration is
still weak across the desktop. I have to keep a browser open pointed at my
email pages anyway, because the messenging menu and evolution are
inconsistent at best. I have to manually check twitter because gwibber never
tells
The Social Desktop, nicely wrapped in a consistent and comfortable UI, will
bring the Meercat into many a household! ;)
Humans share their knowledge and skills in the Ubuntu community, why don't
apps also behave like that? Something i can't stop reasoning about..
Yeah, we need to untangle Ubuntu's
On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 12:07 AM, David Hamm wrote:
> As a matter of dignity and manly pride I challenge you, Alex Lourie,
> to open nautilus>edit>preferences>behavior>single click, for a week.
> And after that week, comeback and complain!
>
> btw. the whole freaking internet is single click. psh
I'm changing my computer to single click to see what I think.
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 2:07 PM, David Hamm wrote:
> As a matter of dignity and manly pride I challenge you, Alex Lourie,
> to open nautilus>edit>preferences>behavior>single click, for a week.
> And after that week, comeback and compl
As a matter of dignity and manly pride I challenge you, Alex Lourie,
to open nautilus>edit>preferences>behavior>single click, for a week.
And after that week, comeback and complain!
btw. the whole freaking internet is single click. psh.
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 2:01 PM, Alex Lourie wrote:
>
> On
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 7:51 PM, Frederik Nnaji wrote:
>
> User testing has revealed that single click comes more intuitively to users
> than double click.
>
>
Would you care to elaborate on that? What user testing?
90% of computers used today (Windows) using double click, another 5% of Mac
using
What about just having a protocol for saying "here's something the
application would like to implement", ala the existing indicator applet.
Different implementations could do different things with it. A compliant
window-manager might stick them in the title-bar in a consistent way. If the
window-ma
"Frederik Nnaji" wrote:
>On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 17:48, Scott Kitterman wrote:
>
>> "Akshat Jain" wrote:
>>
>> >Link Copy-Pasta
>> >
>> http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2010/05/why-you-should-not-use-client-side-window-decorations/
>> >
>> http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2010/05/fo
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 17:48, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> "Akshat Jain" wrote:
>
> >Link Copy-Pasta
> >
> http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2010/05/why-you-should-not-use-client-side-window-decorations/
> >
> http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2010/05/follow-up-on-client-side-decorations/
>
"Akshat Jain" wrote:
>Link Copy-Pasta
>http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2010/05/why-you-should-not-use-client-side-window-decorations/
>http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2010/05/follow-up-on-client-side-decorations/
>
>This guy named Martin Gräßlin is a hardcore KWin fan I think,looks
ps. select on hover-over (for devices w/ keyboards) is kinda necessary
if we switch to single click, which i'm all for btw.
the only thing that can enslave a person, is another person.
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On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 08:47, SorinN wrote:
> On the topic of double click or single click - the user should choose
> not others. Open Source should not became a prison.
>
you are absolutely correct.
that's why there are other distributions and desktop environments out there.
we are merely disc
"The more options and questions and choices we present to the
user, the less they will want to know about *any* of them."
btw, you have seen the power menu right?
.right, back to single click discussion. I'd say get everyone round
the office to set single click and have a vote after a week. reaso
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 16:48, Mark Curtis wrote:
> The reasoning behind the controversial button movement to the left was
> that starting/quitting would be on the left, and status would be on the
> right.
>
> Given that reasoning, for consistency sake shouldn't indicator-session go
> on the far
The reasoning behind the controversial button movement to the left was
that starting/quitting would be on the left, and status would be on the
right.
Given that reasoning, for consistency sake shouldn't
indicator-session go on the far left since it is for starting/quitting
an entire session?
yeah, thx.
actually, we're on the verge of redesigning windows as a whole.
* the title bar is losing importance (e.g. we're treating the buttons like
trivial objects)
* windows are turning into intelligently shaped objects or fullscreen work
environments
* clutterful information in our focal poin
2010/5/14 David Hamm
> "Chat windows used to be one click away." This was one of the best
> arguments against it until they made the tray.
> http://blogs.gnome.org/mccann/2009/07/05/getting-the-message/
> but you can still use the same argument, in that, gnome shell cannon't
> presume to know how
On Sat, 2010-05-15 at 07:57 -0400, Freddie Unpenstein wrote:
> On the toolkit side, what I would like to see, is more cooking of the
> input events, similar to how terminals and X itself allow access to
> raw keystrokes, the processed/mapped input events, down to the final
> activation of a wid
On 14 May 2010 20:50, Thorsten Wilms wrote:
> I tried to collect the thoughts so far, regarding single-click mode for
> activation, but starting from the possible objective of getting rid of
> double-clicking:
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Ayatana/DoubleClick
Great, thanks! :)
> You might find that
All but Luke Morton please skip past the following block:
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On 15/05/10 07:47, SorinN wrote:
> On the topic of double click or single click - the user should choose
> not others. Open Source should not became a prison.
>
Imagine if we presented choices to a new user, for all the options
available to them. The install would take hours (choosing between a
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