Re: [Ayatana] Updates on Login (was: Re: [Fwd: Update manager])

2009-06-18 Thread Allan Caeg
You might want to read this http://lifehacker.com/5295449/disable-ubuntus-annoying-update-manager-popup Alex Launi wrote: I figured I should start a new thread for this, so that you can all continue your icon vs. pop-under debate, which is still relevant for the auto-login case, although it b

Re: [Ayatana] What most people would find useful (was: Re: Updates on Login )

2009-06-18 Thread Vincenzo Ciancia
Il giorno gio, 18/06/2009 alle 18.25 -0400, Scott Kitterman ha scritto: > These would also probably need some > additional QA to reduce the risk for users installing the update with > no > chance to consider if it would be a good update for them. I will trust no human on that :) If you have a w

Re: [Ayatana] What most people would find useful (was: Re: Updates on Login )

2009-06-18 Thread tacone
> I think the biggest problem with automatic updates is that it puts systems > at some non-zero risk for the sake of fixing something that probably isn't > relevant to their systems. Wonderful point. I don't upgrade my system at all while I'm traveling. Stefano __

Re: [Ayatana] What most people would find useful (was: Re: Updates on Login )

2009-06-18 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thu, 18 Jun 2009 14:45:39 -0700 Jonathan Marsden wrote: >Joshua Blount wrote: > >> It may be a good idea, as David suggested, to look past our personal >> user stories, and look for what most people would find useful. > >"Most useful" here is probably somewhat synonymous with "least >surpris

Re: [Ayatana] What most people would find useful (was: Re: Updates on Login )

2009-06-18 Thread Steve Dodier
This discussion has grown big enough for it to deserve several wiki pages about several points, so it'd be really great to stop splitting it and changing its name, cause i just can't follow anymore. PS : sorry for the offtopic :) ___ Mailing list: https:

Re: [Ayatana] What most people would find useful (was: Re: Updates on Login )

2009-06-18 Thread tacone
I'd add, rather than 're brand' the updates, some line of explanation in the update window or notification may enhance things quite a bit. In Windows people don't upgrade the system because they know it will make it slower, or will send their data to some anti-piracy database or stuff like that. A

[Ayatana] What most people would find useful (was: Re: Updates on Login )

2009-06-18 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Joshua Blount wrote: It may be a good idea, as David suggested, to look past our personal user stories, and look for what most people would find useful. "Most useful" here is probably somewhat synonymous with "least surprising". If the target default Ubuntu end user comes from a Microsoft W