Re: [Ayatana] Things I have noticed

2009-06-04 Thread Steve Dodier
I doubt i give enough importance to notifications to sacrifice them a shortcut i'd have to remember afterwards. There are much more appropriate mechanisms for settings that dont change often, in my opinion. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatan

Re: [Ayatana] Things I have noticed

2009-06-04 Thread Natan Yellin
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 10:00 PM, David Siegel wrote: > > > mac_v wrote: > >> Jacob Peddicord wrote: >> >>> Wouldn't the proper way to remedy this would be to close communication >>> applications during a presentation? I won't disagree that disabling >>> notifications for a time would be useful, bu

Re: [Ayatana] Things I have noticed

2009-06-04 Thread Mike Rooney
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 12:00 PM, David Siegel wrote: > 2. Provide a way for the user to explicitly block and unblock most if not > all notifications to prevent embarrassment. Even if we are perfectly > prescient and block all embarrassing notifications at just the right times, > the user will stil

Re: [Ayatana] notify-osd + fullscreen + multiple monitors

2009-06-04 Thread Steve Dodier
What about console-presenter and evince / other PDF viewers ? They're used too for presentations. I don't think we can maintain an exhaustive list of applications, so maybe we should provide the user with a GUI to tell which apps shouldnt be overriden and in which circumstances (and have our own de

Re: [Ayatana] notify-osd + fullscreen + multiple monitors

2009-06-04 Thread mac_v
David Siegel wrote: > On the other hand, we can agree that OpenOffice Impress in presentation > mode is a very special case, and that if we had to pick a default > behavior for notify-osd during a presentation, it would be more > reasonable to turn notifications off than to leave them on. > Eve

Re: [Ayatana] notify-osd + fullscreen + multiple monitors

2009-06-04 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Rick Spencer wrote: > Using full screen for "the user doesn't want notifications" seems a bit > blunt to me, though perhaps would work fine in practice. Moving > notifications to a different screen seems like a lot of unpredictability > to me. > > Here are some more ideas ... I'm sure you've consid

Re: [Ayatana] Things I have noticed

2009-06-04 Thread David Siegel
mac_v wrote: Jacob Peddicord wrote: Wouldn't the proper way to remedy this would be to close communication applications during a presentation? I won't disagree that disabling notifications for a time would be useful, but if you don't want Pidgin triggering notifications for a presentation, the

Re: [Ayatana] Things I have noticed

2009-06-04 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Yes, we do intend to have a presence setting which influences the display of notification bubbles with notify-osd. Mark signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.l

Re: [Ayatana] notify-osd + fullscreen + multiple monitors

2009-06-04 Thread Rick Spencer
Using full screen for "the user doesn't want notifications" seems a bit blunt to me, though perhaps would work fine in practice. Moving notifications to a different screen seems like a lot of unpredictability to me. Here are some more ideas ... I'm sure you've considered them, but thought I'd offe

Re: [Ayatana] notify-osd + fullscreen + multiple monitors

2009-06-04 Thread David Siegel
Aurélien Gâteau wrote: Hi list, I am working on bug 372789 "NotifyOSD notifications shouldn't appear when using fullscreen applications". https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/372789 I created a patch which detects fullscreen windows and disables notifications in this case, but it does not take the m

Re: [Ayatana] notify-osd + fullscreen + multiple monitors

2009-06-04 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Aurélien Gâteau wrote: > I created a patch which detects fullscreen windows and disables > notifications in this case, but it does not take the multiple monitors > case into account: it just stops notifications if there is a fullscreen > window on one of the monitors. I have two solutions: > > 1. L

Re: [Ayatana] Things I have noticed

2009-06-04 Thread Vincenzo Ciancia
Il giorno gio, 04/06/2009 alle 11.00 -0700, Mike Rooney ha scritto: > On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Vincenzo Ciancia wrote: > > What I mean is that we need a mode ("busy" in FUSA would be just nice) > > where the actions that the computer takes are under the control of the > > user. > > That i

Re: [Ayatana] Things I have noticed

2009-06-04 Thread mac_v
Jacob Peddicord wrote: > > Wouldn't the proper way to remedy this would be to close communication > applications during a presentation? I won't disagree that disabling > notifications for a time would be useful, but if you don't want Pidgin > triggering notifications for a presentation, then close

Re: [Ayatana] Things I have noticed

2009-06-04 Thread Mike Rooney
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Vincenzo Ciancia wrote: > What I mean is that we need a mode ("busy" in FUSA would be just nice) > where the actions that the computer takes are under the control of the > user. That is what I proposed at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/notify-osd/+bug/3

Re: [Ayatana] Things I have noticed

2009-06-04 Thread Vincenzo Ciancia
Il giorno gio, 04/06/2009 alle 13.19 -0400, Jacob Peddicord ha scritto: > > Wouldn't the proper way to remedy this would be to close communication > applications during a presentation? I won't disagree that disabling > notifications for a time would be useful, but if you don't want Pidgin > trigge

Re: [Ayatana] Things I have noticed

2009-06-04 Thread David Siegel
Brian Curtis wrote: On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 12:41 PM, mac_v wrote: Mark +1 , hate to click the x to dismiss! but there needs to be a way to dismiss the notify-osd , in case the bubbles are a disturbance to workflow. What about just clicking the bubble? Or is this too close to a "cli

Re: [Ayatana] Things I have noticed

2009-06-04 Thread Steve Dodier
Aren't the IM applications now meant to use indicator-applet instead of libnotify to notify messages, and isn't indicator-applet not appearing if you're in fullscreen ? ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpa

Re: [Ayatana] Things I have noticed

2009-06-04 Thread Jacob Peddicord
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 1:00 PM, Vincenzo Ciancia wrote: > > Good point: not all presentations are full screen and some notifications > might create embarass - perhaps not only those related to pidgin. There > absolutely should be an explicit way to disable any disturb for a > while. Wouldn't the

Re: [Ayatana] Things I have noticed

2009-06-04 Thread Brian Curtis
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 12:41 PM, mac_v wrote: > > Mark > > +1 , > hate to click the x to dismiss! > > but there needs to be a way to dismiss the notify-osd , in case the bubbles > are a disturbance to workflow. > What about just clicking the bubble? Or is this too close to a "click the x" approac

Re: [Ayatana] Things I have noticed

2009-06-04 Thread Siegfried Gevatter
2009/6/4 Vincenzo Ciancia : > Good point: not all presentations are full screen and some notifications > might create embarass - perhaps not only those related to pidgin. There > absolutely should be an explicit way to disable any disturb for a > while. I think certain status indicators (set from

Re: [Ayatana] Things I have noticed

2009-06-04 Thread Vincenzo Ciancia
Il giorno gio, 04/06/2009 alle 22.11 +0530, mac_v ha scritto: > > > but there needs to be a way to dismiss the notify-osd , in case the > bubbles are a disturbance to workflow. > > If user receives a mail/im/buddy notification during a presentation,he > is forced to move the pointer to the bubbl

Re: [Ayatana] Things I have noticed

2009-06-04 Thread mac_v
From: Mark Shuttleworth Jacob Peddicord wrote: A close button I personally don't see being useful, in the current state of how notifications are displayed. They come and go relatively quickly, and by the time you notice a notification to click the X it may ha

Re: [Ayatana] notify-osd + fullscreen + multiple monitors

2009-06-04 Thread Vadim Peretokin
Yeah: http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/15648/screenshot_46_yl4r4F.png This sometimes works as a workaround for games that are buggy with fullscreen and dual monitors too - makes them stick to one where built-in will stretch across two (or place the game in the middle of them) ___

Re: [Ayatana] notify-osd + fullscreen + multiple monitors

2009-06-04 Thread David Siegel
Vadim Peretokin wrote: Any application can be made fullscreen via the "Toggle fullscreen mode" in Gnome. I'm guessing you'd like a list of the practical ones. Good guess. David PS: Can I fullscreen Nautilus? ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~

Re: [Ayatana] notify-osd + fullscreen + multiple monitors

2009-06-04 Thread Vadim Peretokin
Any application can be made fullscreen via the "Toggle fullscreen mode" in Gnome. I'm guessing you'd like a list of the practical ones. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launch

Re: [Ayatana] notify-osd + fullscreen + multiple monitors

2009-06-04 Thread David Siegel
Aurélien Gâteau wrote: Hi list, I am working on bug 372789 "NotifyOSD notifications shouldn't appear when using fullscreen applications". https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/372789 I created a patch which detects fullscreen windows and disables notifications in this case, but it does not take the m

Re: [Ayatana] notify-osd + fullscreen + multiple monitors

2009-06-04 Thread Alex Launi
Tough call, I'm tempted to say solution 2, which is the "if we can show it, show it" approach. -- --Alex Launi signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad

[Ayatana] notify-osd + fullscreen + multiple monitors

2009-06-04 Thread Aurélien Gâteau
Hi list, I am working on bug 372789 "NotifyOSD notifications shouldn't appear when using fullscreen applications". https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/372789 I created a patch which detects fullscreen windows and disables notifications in this case, but it does not take the multiple monitors case int

Re: [Ayatana] "Power information" notifications

2009-06-04 Thread David Siegel
Steve, please use a bzr branch on launchpad instead of sending tarball iterations to the list. David Steve Dodier wrote: Hello, I tweaked the icons a little with the help of macvr. Attached the new (and, I hope, final) icons. -

[Ayatana] New "branding-ubuntu" package allows for branding arbitrary graphics in a derivative friendly way

2009-06-04 Thread Mads Rosendahl
> A simple idea I had at UDS was to make it easy for artists to provide > Ubuntu branding for various programs in a derivative friendly way. I've > just uploaded a first version of the package, branding-ubuntu, which so > far only has a replacement for the Gnometris background. Gnometris > doesn't