automake parallel install

2002-01-09 Thread Havoc Pennington
Hi, Tom asked me to repost this to the list. I'm not subscribed, so please cc if you want to hear from me. Thanks, Havoc --- Begin Message --- Hi, I'm wondering if we could convince you and the autoconf guys to think about making incompatible autotools releases install in parallel. I just

Re: automake parallel install

2002-01-11 Thread Havoc Pennington
Hi, Tom Tromey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > What do you mean by "versioned executables"? > The bindir/automake-1.4, bindir/automake-1.5 files. > I think renaming the directories in $(datadir) is fine. But I'm not > as sure about renaming the executables by default. I think I'd prefer > to

Re: automake parallel install

2002-01-11 Thread Havoc Pennington
Ralf Corsepius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > This would require to change all packages providing aclocal/ macros of > their own, i.e. is not feasible at present time, IMHO. It can be done slowly if you continue to search datadir/aclocal for now, and also search the versioned directories. Just de

Re: automake parallel install

2002-01-11 Thread Havoc Pennington
Ralf Corsepius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > => IMO, this patch is one alternative towards allowing parallel > installation of _automake_, but does not help much wrt. the actual > autotool-issues "Joe Occasional Installer" will meet (eg. when building > GNOME modules). > I agree there are oth

Re: automake parallel install stuff

2002-01-11 Thread Havoc Pennington
Alexandre Duret-Lutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Doesn't `configure --program-suffix=-1.5' work? It probably would, sure. I just didn't think of it. > Would it be the job of `make install' to handle this symlink? > If yes, how should it be updated? Say I install > Automake-1.5 *after* Aut

Re: automake parallel install

2002-01-13 Thread Havoc Pennington
Alexandre Duret-Lutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > This seems to be the minimum required to allow parallel installs > of Automake. However doing only this makes unsafe to use > versions installed that way, due to the rebuild rules issue you > pointed out: using automake-1.5 is useless if the re

Re: automake parallel install

2002-01-16 Thread Havoc Pennington
Tom Tromey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > "Tom" == Tom Tromey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Tom> My current thinking is that we would name the installed version > Tom> and the install directories after the "install version". For > Tom> anything in the 1.5 series (1.5.1, 1.5-p1, 1.5c, wha

Re: automake parallel install stuff

2002-01-16 Thread Havoc Pennington
Hi, Look, I think everyone is overcomplicating the problem here. It's really really really really simple. Anything that is compatible has the same name; anything that isn't compatible has a different name. Because from the point of view of an interface user (an app), a compatible thing implement

Re: automake parallel install stuff

2002-01-17 Thread Havoc Pennington
Ralf Corsepius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > 2. I am not sure if recommending share/aclocal- for third party > macros is a good idea: > * Currently hardly managable on the user-side => If at all, then some > auto*tool should installing *.m4's to share/aclocal- > automatically (data_ACLOCALS = fo