Re: tar-pax or tar-ustar as a default for automake

2011-06-23 Thread Andrew W. Nosenko
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 16:59, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: > On Thu, 23 Jun 2011, Andrew W. Nosenko wrote: >> >> Hmmm...  What about do not enforce any particular format by default? >> Especially if consider that on my FreeBSD automake already enforses >> ustar when tries to enforce v7 ;-) >> >>   tard

Re: tar-pax or tar-ustar as a default for automake

2011-06-23 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Thu, 23 Jun 2011, Andrew W. Nosenko wrote: Hmmm... What about do not enforce any particular format by default? Especially if consider that on my FreeBSD automake already enforses ustar when tries to enforce v7 ;-) tardir=testprog-0.0.0 && /usr/local/bin/bash /home/user/tmp/testprog/missi

Re: tar-pax or tar-ustar as a default for automake

2011-06-23 Thread Andrew W. Nosenko
2011/6/23 Bob Friesenhahn : > On Wed, 22 Jun 2011, Javier Jardón wrote: >> >> FYI, GNU tar added pax support in 2004 [1] >> Anyway, a change to ustar would be enough for us. Should I file a bug for >> this? > > Filing a bug sounds like a good idea.  The issue is less likely to be > forgotten. > Hm

Re: tar-pax or tar-ustar as a default for automake

2011-06-22 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Wed, 22 Jun 2011, Javier Jardón wrote: FYI, GNU tar added pax support in 2004 [1] Anyway, a change to ustar would be enough for us. Should I file a bug for this? Filing a bug sounds like a good idea. The issue is less likely to be forgotten. Bob -- Bob Friesenhahn bfrie...@simple.dallas

Re: tar-pax or tar-ustar as a default for automake

2011-06-22 Thread Javier Jardón
On 22 June 2011 02:28, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: > On Tue, 21 Jun 2011, Russ Allbery wrote: >> >> The problem, of course, being that pax probably isn't available, which >> makes it hard for a default choice. > > As per WikiPedia: > > "Despite being standardized in 2001 by IEEE, as of 2010, pax enjoys

Re: tar-pax or tar-ustar as a default for automake

2011-06-21 Thread Russ Allbery
Bob Friesenhahn writes: > pax is required to be present in all conformant systems by Linux > Standard Base since version 3.0 (released on July 6, 2005),[2] but so > far few Linux distributions ship and install it by default. However, > most distributions include pax as a separately installable pa

Re: tar-pax or tar-ustar as a default for automake

2011-06-21 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Tue, 21 Jun 2011, Russ Allbery wrote: The problem, of course, being that pax probably isn't available, which makes it hard for a default choice. As per WikiPedia: "Despite being standardized in 2001 by IEEE, as of 2010, pax enjoys relatively little popularity and penetration rate. pax i

Re: tar-pax or tar-ustar as a default for automake

2011-06-21 Thread Russ Allbery
Bob Friesenhahn writes: > Does automake depend on 'tar' being GNU tar? If it will use any old > tar, then one would assume that it uses the default output format since > otherwise it might not know how to request some other format variant. > If it it used 'pax' then the output format can be cert

Re: tar-pax or tar-ustar as a default for automake

2011-06-21 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Tue, 21 Jun 2011, Javier Jardón wrote: I'd like to know if there is a plan to switch to tar-pax or tar-ustar (seems that pax support is broken in openbsd) as a default tar format. Currently we have some problem in GNOME project with some modules because the limitations of the current tar form