Re: Autotools GSoC ideas

2011-03-10 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Wed, Mar 09, 2011 at 08:52:39AM +0100, Stefano Lattarini wrote: > OK. If you say that a more fuzzy proposal shouldn't cause problems at > this point, I'll follow your lead. In our experience, fuzzy proposals do not work well. Very few students are up to making design decisions -- and cons

Re: Autotools GSoC ideas

2011-03-09 Thread Harlan Stenn
I would suggest that proposals offer useful hints and links to information and concepts, but I would recommend against spelling the proposals out in significant detail. The reason for this is that sometimes students will do an excellent job of either regurgitating or paraphrasing a proposal. It t

Re: Autotools GSoC ideas

2011-03-08 Thread Stefano Lattarini
On Wednesday 09 March 2011, Ralf Wildenhues wrote: > * Stefano Lattarini wrote on Tue, Mar 08, 2011 at 10:50:47PM CET: > > On Tuesday 08 March 2011, Robert Collins wrote: > > > On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 8:39 AM, Stefano Lattarini wrote: > > > > ``Interfacing with the Test Anything Protocol (TAP). If

Re: Autotools GSoC ideas

2011-03-08 Thread Ralf Wildenhues
* Stefano Lattarini wrote on Tue, Mar 08, 2011 at 10:50:47PM CET: > On Tuesday 08 March 2011, Robert Collins wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 8:39 AM, Stefano Lattarini wrote: > > > ``Interfacing with the Test Anything Protocol (TAP). If possible, try > > > to write an implementation that will

Re: Autotools GSoC ideas

2011-03-08 Thread Stefano Lattarini
On Tuesday 08 March 2011, Robert Collins wrote: > On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 8:39 AM, Stefano Lattarini > wrote: > > I don't know how the GSoC proposals are evaluated, but if reviewers tend > > to prefer more precise goals, extending the proposal in this way might > > not be a smart move. Maybe somet

Re: Autotools GSoC ideas

2011-03-08 Thread Robert Collins
On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 8:39 AM, Stefano Lattarini wrote: > I don't know how the GSoC proposals are evaluated, but if reviewers tend > to prefer more precise goals, extending the proposal in this way might > not be a smart move.  Maybe something like the following would be better? > >  ``Interfacin

Re: Autotools GSoC ideas

2011-03-08 Thread Stefano Lattarini
On Tuesday 08 March 2011, Ralf Wildenhues wrote: > Hi Robert, > > * Robert Collins wrote on Tue, Mar 08, 2011 at 02:57:44AM CET: > > On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 1:10 AM, Ralf Wildenhues wrote: > > > I'll throw a couple of suggestions for Autotools out there: > > > > > > 1) Interfacing with the Test Any

Re: Autotools GSoC ideas

2011-03-08 Thread Ralf Wildenhues
Hi Robert, * Robert Collins wrote on Tue, Mar 08, 2011 at 02:57:44AM CET: > On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 1:10 AM, Ralf Wildenhues wrote: > > I'll throw a couple of suggestions for Autotools out there: > > > > 1) Interfacing with the Test Anything Protocol (TAP) (or maybe another > > test protocol?). >

Re: Autotools GSoC ideas

2011-03-07 Thread Robert Collins
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 1:10 AM, Ralf Wildenhues wrote: > Hello, > > I'll throw a couple of suggestions for Autotools out there: > > 1) Interfacing with the Test Anything Protocol (TAP) (or maybe another > test protocol?).  Automake-generated Makefiles could be consumers of the > protocol for third

Re: Autotools GSoC ideas

2011-03-07 Thread Russ Allbery
Ralf Wildenhues writes: > 1) Interfacing with the Test Anything Protocol (TAP) (or maybe another > test protocol?). Automake-generated Makefiles could be consumers of the > protocol for third-party testsuites. Automake-generated simple > testsuites (TESTS) and Autoconf-generated Autotest testsu

Re: Autotools GSoC ideas

2011-03-07 Thread Stefano Lattarini
Hello Ralf and all GNU hackers. On Monday 07 March 2011, Ralf Wildenhues wrote: > Hello, > > I'll throw a couple of suggestions for Autotools out there: > > 1) Interfacing with the Test Anything Protocol (TAP) (or maybe another > test protocol?). Automake-generated Makefiles could be consumers

Autotools GSoC ideas

2011-03-07 Thread Ralf Wildenhues
Hello, I'll throw a couple of suggestions for Autotools out there: 1) Interfacing with the Test Anything Protocol (TAP) (or maybe another test protocol?). Automake-generated Makefiles could be consumers of the protocol for third-party testsuites. Automake-generated simple testsuites (TESTS) and