Re: [RFC] Moving ltmain.sh and libtool.m4 into Automake

2012-10-18 Thread Gary V. Vaughan
Hello Mr. Strike, On Oct 18, 2012, at 7:16 PM, NightStrike wrote: > On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Gary V. Vaughan wrote: >> Thanks to everyone for your feedback. Much appreciated. >> >> It seems that merging libtool into Automake would be an unpopular move all >> around, with significant d

Re: [RFC] Moving ltmain.sh and libtool.m4 into Automake

2012-10-18 Thread NightStrike
On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Gary V. Vaughan wrote: > Thanks to everyone for your feedback. Much appreciated. > > It seems that merging libtool into Automake would be an unpopular move all > around, with significant downsides for users, so I no longer plan to do > that... unless there is a s

Re: [RFC] Moving ltmain.sh and libtool.m4 into Automake

2012-10-17 Thread Diab Jerius
On Wed, 2012-10-17 at 16:41 +0700, Gary V. Vaughan wrote: > Another consideration is that rolling Libtool into Automake would make > using Libtool as a standalone script rather more difficult. Having > said that, my impression is that Libtool is rarely used that way in > any case, and further simp

Re: [RFC] Moving ltmain.sh and libtool.m4 into Automake

2012-10-17 Thread John Bytheway
On 17/10/12 05:41, Gary V. Vaughan wrote: > Another consideration is that rolling Libtool into Automake would make > using Libtool as a standalone script rather more difficult. Having > said that, my impression is that Libtool is rarely used that way in > any case, and further simplification may b

Re: [RFC] Moving ltmain.sh and libtool.m4 into Automake

2012-10-17 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 17/10/2012 08:27, Gary V. Vaughan wrote: >> > Creading a stand-alone libltdl package is a very good idea. > The separation will also make both packages much smaller and more manageable, > especially without all the contortions of trying to support all the different > ways of copying everything i

Re: [RFC] Moving ltmain.sh and libtool.m4 into Automake

2012-10-17 Thread Gary V. Vaughan
Thanks to everyone for your feedback. Much appreciated. It seems that merging libtool into Automake would be an unpopular move all around, with significant downsides for users, so I no longer plan to do that... unless there is a still strong technical argument supporting it that I've yet to hear.

Re: [RFC] Moving ltmain.sh and libtool.m4 into Automake

2012-10-17 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Wed, 17 Oct 2012, Gary V. Vaughan wrote: Libtool is just (a complicated) compiler wrapper, to make building and linking against libraries easy to specify... be that on the command line with a direct libtool invocation, or from Makefile.am specifications. I'm considering splitting the current

Re: [RFC] Moving ltmain.sh and libtool.m4 into Automake

2012-10-17 Thread Stefano Lattarini
On 10/17/2012 11:41 AM, Gary V. Vaughan wrote: > Autotoolers, > > For quite some time now I've been thinking about simplifying Libtool, > but I'm interested in feedback and more particularly buy-in from > Automake maintainers before I start the work, so that I have a better > idea of what directio

[RFC] Moving ltmain.sh and libtool.m4 into Automake

2012-10-17 Thread Gary V. Vaughan
Autotoolers, For quite some time now I've been thinking about simplifying Libtool, but I'm interested in feedback and more particularly buy-in from Automake maintainers before I start the work, so that I have a better idea of what direction I'm heading in... Libtool is just (a complicated) compil