Re: 1.16.90 regression: configure now takes 7 seconds to start

2024-06-11 Thread Simon Richter
Hi, On 6/12/24 08:00, Karl Berry wrote: Any other ideas? A horrible one: split the test so it can be performed in parallel with others -- upper half starts the sleep in the background, lower half waits for it to complete. Simon

Re: 1.16.90 regression: configure now takes 7 seconds to start

2024-06-11 Thread dherring
At some point, it becomes unreasonable to burden common platforms with delays that only support relatively obscure and obsolete platforms. Configure scripts already have a bad reputation for wasting time. Even if they are faster than editing a custom makefile, they are idle instead of active

Re: 1.16.90 regression: configure now takes 7 seconds to start

2024-06-11 Thread Jacob Bachmeyer
Karl Berry wrote: bh> Seen e.g. on NetBSD 10.0. Which doesn't support subsecond mtimes? jb> Maybe the best answer is to test for subsecond timestamp granularity first, and then only do the slow test to distinguish between 1-second and 2-second granularity if the subsecond gr

Re: 1.16.90 regression: configure now takes 7 seconds to start

2024-06-11 Thread Bruno Haible
Karl Berry wrote: > The simple change is to omit the make test if we are at resolution 1. > That will save 4 seconds. It should save 6 seconds. Because it goes like this: - Test whether 0.01 sec works. - Test whether 0.1 sec works. - If not, set the variable to 2, because that's the worst ca

Re: 1.16.90 regression: configure now takes 7 seconds to start

2024-06-11 Thread Karl Berry
Maybe this is a silly question, but, is there a reason why this test needs to be performed in every single package that uses Automake? I was under the impression that the purpose of this test was merely to speed up running Automake's own test suite. There are other packages that h

Re: Bug Resilience Program of German Sovereign Tech Fund

2024-06-11 Thread Karl Berry
Hi Christoph, https://www.sovereigntechfund.de/programs/bug-resilience Thanks for bringing this up. > Our partner 'Neighbourhoodie Software' provides a variety > of types of contributions to participating projects to > address known issues, If that means providing patches fo

Re: 1.16.90 regression: configure now takes 7 seconds to start

2024-06-11 Thread Karl Berry
bh> Seen e.g. on NetBSD 10.0. Which doesn't support subsecond mtimes? jb> Maybe the best answer is to test for subsecond timestamp granularity first, and then only do the slow test to distinguish between 1-second and 2-second granularity if the subsecond granularity test gives

Re: 1.16.90 regression: configure now takes 7 seconds to start

2024-06-11 Thread Karl Berry
Date: Sat, 08 Jun 2024 00:27:39 +0200 From: Bruno Haible To: Subject: 1.16.90 regression: configure now takes 7 seconds to start [I'm writing to automake@gnu.org because bug-autom...@gnu.org appears to be equivalent to /dev/null: [...] It seems this has been fixed, what