Re: High-Precision NFS Timestamps

Bob Friesenhahn writes: > Usually the solution to this is to install and run ntp (Network Time > Protocol, as offered by 'xntp') on the machines on your network. Is that really a solution? Running ntp makes it a lot more _likely_ that machines will appear to be synchronized to a high degree of p

Re: High-Precision NFS Timestamps

On Wed, 12 Jan 2011, Eric Reischer wrote: I recently upgraded our NFS fileserver to an ext4 filesystem, and since then we've been having clock skew warnings from make (3.81). Because the ext3 filesystem that was previously running on the NFS server didn't support high-precision timestamps, we

Re: [CRAZY PROPOSAL] Automake should support only GNU make

On Wed, 12 Jan 2011, Peter O'Gorman wrote: On 01/12/2011 12:01 PM, Stefano Lattarini wrote: [About the purpose or "spirit" of Automake] Automake is about much more than just portability to different make implementations; it's about: No. The philosophy of the autotools has always been to

Re: [CRAZY PROPOSAL] Automake should support only GNU make

On Wed, 12 Jan 2011, Stefano Lattarini wrote: Those you list above are very good *practical* reasons not to use quagmire (and the very fact that it took me 3 minutes to find that page with google was IMHO already a clear indicator that the project is dead in practice). The "answer" I was speaki

Re: [CRAZY PROPOSAL] Automake should support only GNU make

On 01/12/2011 12:01 PM, Stefano Lattarini wrote: [About the purpose or "spirit" of Automake] Automake is about much more than just portability to different make implementations; it's about: No. The philosophy of the autotools has always been to make the end users life easier, in part by

Re: [CRAZY PROPOSAL] Automake should support only GNU make

Xochitl Lunde writes: > I see that I can get the source, but I don't want to have to compile this > thing if it's not purely script based. AFAIK, quagmire requires nothing other than GNU make (that was, I guess, the point of it)... > Also when I go to quagmire-discuss, there are a bunch of nast

bug#7833: automake uses two different values for DejaGNU srcdir

When automake is configured to use DejaGNU, it uses two different values for srcdir. There are two different cases in lib/am/dejagnu.am: The first is in check-DEJAGNU: check-DEJAGNU: site.exp ## Life is easiest with an absolute srcdir, so do that. srcdir=`$(am__cd) $(srcdir) && pwd`; exp

Re: High-Precision NFS Timestamps

[adding bug-make, replies can drop automake] On 01/12/2011 03:08 PM, Eric Reischer wrote: > I recently upgraded our NFS fileserver to an ext4 filesystem, and since > then we've been having clock skew warnings from make (3.81). Because > the ext3 filesystem that was previously running on the NFS s

High-Precision NFS Timestamps

I recently upgraded our NFS fileserver to an ext4 filesystem, and since then we've been having clock skew warnings from make (3.81). Because the ext3 filesystem that was previously running on the NFS server didn't support high-precision timestamps, we didn't have clock skew warnings because an

Re: [CRAZY PROPOSAL] Automake should support only GNU make

On Wednesday 12 January 2011, Xochitl Lunde wrote: > > > > > But let me rephrase the critique in a poignant way: if you want to > > > require GNU make anyway, what is your rational to not use quagmire > > > instead of Automake? > > > > > You mean this? > > > >

Re: autoreconf/automake w/out autoheader

Hello Jason. On Wednesday 12 January 2011, Jason Kraftcheck wrote: > How does one go about using the AC_CONFIG_HEADERS functionality without > autoreconf and automake invoking autoheader? I've been letting autoheader > generate an unused 'config.h'. For example: > AC_CONFIG_HEADERS([config.h i

Re: [CRAZY PROPOSAL] Automake should support only GNU make

> > > But let me rephrase the critique in a poignant way: if you want to > > require GNU make anyway, what is your rational to not use quagmire > > instead of Automake? > > > You mean this? > > > Well, the fact that it took me ~ 3 minutes to find it with Goog

Re: [CRAZY PROPOSAL] Automake should support only GNU make

On Wednesday 12 January 2011, Ralf Wildenhues wrote: > > * Stefano Lattarini wrote on Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 07:01:47PM CET: > > > > > And more than this -- brace yourself -- I'm starting to think that > > > automake should *really* start supporting *only* GNU make (at least > > > from version 3.75

autoreconf/automake w/out autoheader

How does one go about using the AC_CONFIG_HEADERS functionality without autoreconf and automake invoking autoheader? I've been letting autoheader generate an unused 'config.h'. For example: AC_CONFIG_HEADERS([config.h iBase_FCDefs.h]) Is there a less klugey way to do this? thanks, - jason

Re: [CRAZY PROPOSAL] Automake should support only GNU make

On Wednesday 12 January 2011, Ralf Wildenhues wrote: > * Stefano Lattarini wrote on Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 07:01:47PM CET: > > On Wednesday 12 January 2011, Юрий Пухальский wrote: > > > Aye, looks like it. > > > > > > I have no objections whatsoever, i just need some method to make it > > > work, be

Re: [CRAZY PROPOSAL] Automake should support only GNU make

On Wednesday 12 January 2011, Steffen Dettmer wrote: > 2011/1/12 Stefano Lattarini : > > I'm starting to think that > > automake should *really* start supporting *only* GNU make (at least > > from version 3.75 or so). > > I think also bash, gcc and most GNU tools are widely avialable. > They could

Re: [CRAZY PROPOSAL] Automake should support only GNU make

> * Stefano Lattarini wrote on Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 07:01:47PM CET: > > > And more than this -- brace yourself -- I'm starting to think that > > automake should *really* start supporting *only* GNU make (at least > > from version 3.75 or so). > > If you want support for this, then you need to dis

Re: [CRAZY PROPOSAL] Automake should support only GNU make

* Stefano Lattarini wrote on Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 07:01:47PM CET: > On Wednesday 12 January 2011, Юрий Пухальский wrote: > > Aye, looks like it. > > > > I have no objections whatsoever, i just need some method to make it > > work, because it's my working project:) > > > To be honest, I'm starting

Re: [CRAZY PROPOSAL] Automake should support only GNU make

2011/1/12 Stefano Lattarini : > I'm starting to think that > automake should *really* start supporting *only* GNU make (at least > from version 3.75 or so). I think also bash, gcc and most GNU tools are widely avialable. They could be built using an old fixed automake. But where should this end? I

[CRAZY PROPOSAL] Automake should support only GNU make

[Adding automake@gnu.org, dropping bug-autom...@gnu.org] References: On Wednesday 12 January 2011, Юрий Пухальский wrote: > Aye, looks like it. > > I have no objections whatsoever, i just ne