Re: Recursive targets for the user

2010-08-01 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Sun, 1 Aug 2010, Ralf Wildenhues wrote: 2) Whether to rename the above and reuse the names for the user (cleaner interface but backward incompatible)? So the internal one's would be, say, am_RECURSIVE_TARGETS am_RECURSIVE_CLEAN_TARGETS am_ALL_RECURSIVE_TARGETS I am not using these in m

Re: easier nonrecursive makefiles

2010-08-01 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Sun, 1 Aug 2010, Ralf Wildenhues wrote: Ludovic (and others?) suggested a different approach for easier file name handling in nonrecursive makefile setups: provide GNU make-like substitution functions, such as addprefix. They could be expanded at automake run time to still produce portable m

Re: call for help/crazy idea: nmake support

2010-08-01 Thread Robert J. Hansen
On 8/1/2010 2:11 PM, Ralf Wildenhues wrote: > So let me rephrase the question: if we have the ability to build > completely with MSVC within a shell environment such as MinGW/MSYS > would people still need something like nmake support? Speaking for myself and my projects -- no, I would not.

easier nonrecursive makefiles

2010-08-01 Thread Ralf Wildenhues
Ludovic (and others?) suggested a different approach for easier file name handling in nonrecursive makefile setups: provide GNU make-like substitution functions, such as addprefix. They could be expanded at automake run time to still produce portable makefiles. I'm torn between this and my earlie

Re: call for help/crazy idea: nmake support

2010-08-01 Thread Ralf Wildenhues
* Philip Herron wrote on Sun, Aug 01, 2010 at 08:05:50PM CEST: > This sounds amazing on one of my other projects i support a cmake > build along side my autoconf and automake for everything that isn't > windows lol. So let me rephrase the question: if we have the ability to build completely with M

Re: call for help/crazy idea: nmake support

2010-08-01 Thread Philip Herron
On 31 July 2010 18:26, Ralf Wildenhues wrote: > Maybe if we have contents conditional on 'make' or 'nmake' output? > Would that even help anybody?  (no idea) > Is there anybody willing to work on this? This sounds amazing on one of my other projects i support a cmake build along side my autoconf

RE: call for help/crazy idea: nmake support

2010-08-01 Thread David Byron
On Sunday, August 1, Ralf Wildenhues wrote: > Sure. I have no idea yet how exactly this could work in > practice. I don't know these tools yet. I'm just > throwing out these ideas to see if somebody has good > input. > > In such a project, is there any scripting besides CMD that > one could r

Recursive targets for the user

2010-08-01 Thread Ralf Wildenhues
Somebody suggested to me (was that you, Ludo?) that Automake should really allow the user to easily add recursive targets. This is fairly trivial to implement, the biggest complication is name calling. So, here's the deal: currently, Automake has RECURSIVE_TARGETS RECURSIVE_CLEAN_TARGETS AM

Re: call for help/crazy idea: nmake support

2010-08-01 Thread 'Ralf Wildenhues'
* David Byron wrote on Sun, Aug 01, 2010 at 07:25:16PM CEST: > On Saturday, July 31, 2010, Ralf Wildenhues wrote: > > OK, so what if they are not actually running configure (or > > would not actually need to)? Presumably automake could > > produce a ready nmake file (or forbid, a vcproj) in at >

RE: call for help/crazy idea: nmake support

2010-08-01 Thread David Byron
On Saturday, July 31, 2010, Ralf Wildenhues wrote: > * David Byron wrote on Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 10:41:29PM CEST: > > > If someone is running autotools (or even a generated > > configure script) on windows, I think we can assume > > they've either got cygwin or msys which implies access > > to m