Re: Automake: use of modified Perl modules & GPL

2001-04-22 Thread Graham Barr
On Mon, Apr 23, 2001 at 01:20:32AM -0500, Ken Williams wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andreas J. Koenig) wrote: > > >> On Sun, 22 Apr 2001 19:58:46 -0700 (PDT), Ask Bjoern Hansen > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > > > What should we standardize on looking for? I would think looking > > > for

Re: Automake: use of modified Perl modules & GPL

2001-04-22 Thread Ken Williams
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andreas J. Koenig) wrote: >> On Sun, 22 Apr 2001 19:58:46 -0700 (PDT), Ask Bjoern Hansen ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > What should we standardize on looking for? I would think looking > > for either of the two ways to include the license I described above > > would

Re: Automake: use of modified Perl modules & GPL

2001-04-22 Thread Andreas J. Koenig
> On Sun, 22 Apr 2001 19:58:46 -0700 (PDT), Ask Bjoern Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >said: > What should we standardize on looking for? I would think looking > for either of the two ways to include the license I described above > would work well. Comments? We should adjust the CC list

Re: Automake: use of modified Perl modules & GPL

2001-04-22 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen
On 22 Apr 2001, Russ Allbery wrote: [...] > I'm not asking anyone to do that. :) That's a lot of work. Personally, > I think that if either the testers or the upload processing just checked > for a license statement in some standard location (a LICENSE section in > the POD text, a LICENSE fil

Re: Automake: use of modified Perl modules & GPL

2001-04-22 Thread Russ Allbery
Elaine -HFB- Ashton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Russ Allbery [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] quoth: >> I believe that the legal liability of the archive maintainers is >> precisely the same whether you ask for explicit license statements or >> not. I pulled out and objected specifically to your previous s

Re: Automake: use of modified Perl modules & GPL

2001-04-22 Thread Russ Allbery
Richard Stallman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Well, for grins I looked to see how you license your modules. Your > license/copyright statement is in the README, not the POD so after > the module is installed, the license statement disappears [ unless > the user keeps the source d

RE: make distclean with subdirobjects

2001-04-22 Thread Robert Collins
Submitted to gnats > -Original Message- > From: Tom Tromey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2001 1:36 PM > To: Robert Collins > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: make distclean with subdirobjects > > > > "Robert" == Robert Collins > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writ

Re: Automake: use of modified Perl modules & GPL

2001-04-22 Thread Richard Stallman
Well, for grins I looked to see how you license your modules. Your license/copyright statement is in the README, not the POD so after the module is installed, the license statement disappears [ unless the user keeps the source dir around ]. The user, in the future will either need

Re: --amdir=DIR

2001-04-22 Thread Lars J. Aas
On Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 02:50:13PM -0600, Tom Tromey wrote: : > On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 09:30:08AM +0200, Jens Krüger wrote: : > : What is the meaning of the '--amdir=DIR' option? : : > "Lars" == Lars J Aas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : Lars> To specify another dir for the Automake templates

Re: --amdir=DIR

2001-04-22 Thread Tom Tromey
> "Lars" == Lars J Aas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 09:30:08AM +0200, Jens Krüger wrote: > : What is the meaning of the '--amdir=DIR' option? Lars> To specify another dir for the Automake templates you usually find in Lars> /usr/share/automake/ or /usr/local/share/au

Re: Automake: use of modified Perl modules & GPL

2001-04-22 Thread Richard Stallman
Personally, I don't care if people use the GPL, AL, BSD or make up their own... it is open source and it is not demo or commercial-ware, etc. I think you and I are talking at cross purposes--addressing two different questions. This miscommunication has continued through several mssa

Re: Automake: use of modified Perl modules & GPL

2001-04-22 Thread Elaine -HFB- Ashton
Russ Allbery [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] quoth: *> *>you're already worrying about. I'm just pointing out that if you believe *>there is something in this archiving process that incurs legal liability, *>being an ostrich about licensing isn't protecting you from it. In the days of litigation and one-cli

register_language() ?

2001-04-22 Thread Patrick Welche
I just did a cvs checkout of automake, all the tests pass, but believe it or not: # automake --version Automake::register_language() called too early to check prototype at /usr/local/bin/automake line 741. Automake::register_language() called too early to check prototype at /usr/local/bin/autom

Re: Automake: use of modified Perl modules & GPL

2001-04-22 Thread Russ Allbery
Richard Stallman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > In certain cases, where you know the licenses of certain modules, you > can put in explicit statements yourselves, following statements from the > author. Otherwise, I suggest moving the problem modules outside of the > public tree, and inviting the

Re: Automake: use of modified Perl modules & GPL

2001-04-22 Thread Tom Tromey
Akim> Now the question is how will be install it? Do we try to get Akim> into Perl's packaging system, or just have some pkglibdir and Akim> install it in there? The same question will arise when we move Akim> Language, Macro, Rule etc. out of automake.in. What do we gain from trying to make it

Re: make distclean with subdirobjects

2001-04-22 Thread Tom Tromey
> "Robert" == Robert Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Robert> Is this a known bug? Am I doing something wrong? I don't think it is known. There shouldn't be anything for you to do wrong -- this should work automatically. Thanks for the report. If it isn't a pain for you could you submi

Re: Automake: use of modified Perl modules & GPL

2001-04-22 Thread Elaine -HFB- Ashton
Russ Allbery [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] quoth: *> *>> Were we to get into the business of requiring licenses we would also *>> have to do the task of checking for and possibly removing items that are *>> of potential legal liability. *> *>You seem to be under the impression that not requiring license sta

Re: Automake: use of modified Perl modules & GPL

2001-04-22 Thread Russ Allbery
Tom Tromey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Akim> Now the question is how will be install it? Do we try to get > Akim> into Perl's packaging system, or just have some pkglibdir and > Akim> install it in there? The same question will arise when we move > Akim> Language, Macro, Rule etc. out of auto

Re: Automake: use of modified Perl modules & GPL

2001-04-22 Thread Russ Allbery
Narrowing the Cc line somewhat Elaine -HFB- Ashton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Russ Allbery [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] quoth: >> You seem to be under the impression that not requiring license >> statements somehow reduces your legal liability. I'm fairly certain >> that this is not actually corr

Re: Automake: use of modified Perl modules & GPL

2001-04-22 Thread Alexandre Oliva
On Apr 19, 2001, Elaine -HFB- Ashton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I still, however, strongly recommend good legal counsel to those whom the > nuances of the license matter greatly since each situation is unique. For a module without explicit licensing terms, I suppose the best a lawyer could sa