Re: amtraces

2001-02-02 Thread Tom Tromey
> "Akim" == akim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Akim> As far as I'm concerned, given that your mark are extremely easy Akim> to remove, given that most messages are from the experimental Akim> code, given that I certainly would like to toy with your Akim> implementation, I'd vote for an inclusi

Re: amtraces

2001-02-02 Thread Tom Tromey
> "Derek" == Derek R Price <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Derek> From comp-vars.am: Derek> DEFS = @DEFS@@DEFAULT_INCLUDES@ Derek> Automake subs some compiler include paths into Derek> @DEFAULT_INCLUDES@ during the creation of Makefile.ins from Derek> Makefile.ams so that any headers described i

Re: amtraces

2001-02-02 Thread Tom Tromey
> "Derek" == Derek R Price <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Derek> The case in question is the DEFAULT_INCLUDES variable being Derek> substituted in as part of DEFS. Since Automake still asumes Derek> that a call to AC_SUBST(DEFS) is always user-requested and that Derek> a user request overrides

Re: FYI: fixing output of aclocal --verbose

2001-02-02 Thread Tom Tromey
Pavel> Another related question before I go ahead and enforce a single Pavel> standard. Pavel> Should versobe messages go to stdout or stderr? Automake uses Pavel> stdout, while all other auto* and aclocal use stderr. It doesn't matter to me. Please feel free to implement what you think is corr

Re: New bugs

2001-02-02 Thread Pavel Roskin
Hello, Akim! > If would be *wonderful* if someone had the courage to convert > Automake's test suite to Autotest :( It would be wonderful if Autotest supported XFAIL in same way. We have tests that are known to be broken, and tests failing unexpectedly for maintainers. The way Autoconf is handl

Re: amtraces

2001-02-02 Thread Derek R. Price
"Derek R. Price" wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 01:17:13PM -0500, Derek R. Price wrote: > > > Akim Demaille wrote: > > > that I certainly would like to toy with your implementation, I'd vote > > > for an inclusion in Automake. Do you have your papers? :) > > No,

Re: amtraces

2001-02-02 Thread Derek R. Price
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 01:17:13PM -0500, Derek R. Price wrote: > > Akim Demaille wrote: > > > > > "Derek R. Price" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > Patch against the current CVS Automake attached. Please excuse all the > > "print STDERR"s and my initials littered i

Re: amtraces

2001-02-02 Thread akim
On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 01:17:13PM -0500, Derek R. Price wrote: > Akim Demaille wrote: > > > "Derek R. Price" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Patch against the current CVS Automake attached. Please excuse all the > "print STDERR"s and my initials littered in comments around the things I was > s

Re: amtraces

2001-02-02 Thread Derek R. Price
Akim Demaille wrote: > "Derek R. Price" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Ok, I have amtraces code that slurps in almost all the information that > > scan_one_autoconf_file used to. Unfortuantely I hit a minor snag: > > We are probably working on the same things. Please, show some code so > tha

Re: amtraces

2001-02-02 Thread Akim Demaille
"Derek R. Price" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Ok, I have amtraces code that slurps in almost all the information that > scan_one_autoconf_file used to. Unfortuantely I hit a minor snag: We are probably working on the same things. Please, show some code so that we don't duplicate. > Since _al

Re: FYI: fixing output of aclocal --verbose

2001-02-02 Thread Akim Demaille
Pavel Roskin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > In fact, when I run "autoreconf --verbose" I only want to know what it's > running. I can hardly imagine that I'll ever really need the verbose > output of all tools in the same time. I do! Then I'd suggest introducing --quiet too for silent, and have

amtraces

2001-02-02 Thread Derek R. Price
Ok, I have amtraces code that slurps in almost all the information that scan_one_autoconf_file used to. Unfortuantely I hit a minor snag: Since _all_ AC_SUBSTs are being processed now, at least one instance where Automake was allowing for user override is now broken. The case in question is the

Re: FYI: fixing output of aclocal --verbose

2001-02-02 Thread Pavel Roskin
> But since it transmits the --verbnse to its slaves and its slaves are > $verbosing on stderr, it should stay in stderr, so that messages > remain in order. A preferable solution for autoreconf, IMHO, but > somewhat more painful that the current status, would be to have > autoreconf redirect the

Re: FYI: fixing output of aclocal --verbose

2001-02-02 Thread Akim Demaille
Pavel Roskin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hello, Akim! > > Another related question before I go ahead and enforce a single standard. > > Should versobe messages go to stdout or stderr? Automake uses stdout, > while all other auto* and aclocal use stderr. I'm not consistent on this regard in th

Re: FYI: fixing output of aclocal --verbose

2001-02-02 Thread Pavel Roskin
Hello, Akim! > Pavel> Hello! Aclocal didn't follow the GNU standard for the output > Pavel> of non-interactive programs. Now all messages printed by > Pavel> "aclocal --verbose" will start with "aclocal: " to make it > Pavel> easier to find them in the autoreconf output. > > While you're at it,

Re: Perl Bug?

2001-02-02 Thread Akim Demaille
Pavel Roskin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'm sorry if I did someting wrong. Everything that I removed didn't look > like legitimate automake messages. Indeed, they are not. > I'm restoring the "traces:" lines. Thanks!

Re: Perl Bug?

2001-02-02 Thread Pavel Roskin
Hello, Akim! I'm sorry if I did someting wrong. Everything that I removed didn't look like legitimate automake messages. I was debugging another bug and I discovered that I don't understand the messages produced by "autoreconf --force --verbose", i.e. it was hard to figure out what program produ

Re: Perl Bug?

2001-02-02 Thread Akim Demaille
| akim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | > sub scan_autoconf_config_files | > { | > +print STDERR "=>> @_\n"; | > +print STDERR "==>> $_\n"; | | Why do you expect $_ to contain anything in particular at this point? | You've not assigned anything to it in this sub. $_ is a completely | sep

Re: FYI: fixing output of aclocal --verbose

2001-02-02 Thread Akim Demaille
> "Pavel" == Pavel Roskin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Pavel> Hello! Aclocal didn't follow the GNU standard for the output Pavel> of non-interactive programs. Now all messages printed by Pavel> "aclocal --verbose" will start with "aclocal: " to make it Pavel> easier to find them in the autore

Re: Perl Bug?

2001-02-02 Thread Akim Demaille
| Hello, Akim! | > +print STDERR "=>> @_\n"; | > +print STDERR "==>> $_\n"; | | I disagree with this style of programming. Are you serious? You really can't differentiate from an actual patch submitted for inclusion, and something I post wishing someone could explain to me what I misse

Re: AC_LIBOBJ and libsources

2001-02-02 Thread Akim Demaille
> "Tom" == Tom Tromey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > "Akim" == Akim Demaille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Akim> Can there be any non source files which we want to ship? Tom> Yes, sometimes. For instance with ansi2knr support we ship the Tom> man page. I don't know whether this impacts au