compound checks (was: AC_REQUIRE problems)

2005-02-22 Thread Stepan Kasal
Hello Dan, I'll try to answer; it's quite possible that Paul will correct me. On Fri, Feb 18, 2005 at 11:55:27AM -0500, Dan Manthey wrote: > checking for a type like uint_fast32_t... (This may take a while.) > checking for blah... > ... > checking finished for a type like uint_fast32_t... found

RFE: configure -> dependency list on exit.

2005-02-22 Thread Hugh Sasse Staff Elec Eng
A few weeks ago I wrote to the Gnu coding standards people, with a suggestion that there should be a DEPENDENCIES file, so that pre-requisites are listed in one place, and being a separate file it may encourage people to include this information. The suggestion was received positively by RMS, and

Re: RFE: configure -> dependency list on exit.

2005-02-22 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Tue, 22 Feb 2005, Hugh Sasse Staff Elec Eng wrote: A few weeks ago I wrote to the Gnu coding standards people, with a suggestion that there should be a DEPENDENCIES file, so that It would be nice if autoconf did that for itself. I don't recall a "recent" release which satisfied that goal (and

Re: RFE: configure -> dependency list on exit.

2005-02-22 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Tue, 22 Feb 2005, Thomas Dickey wrote: On Tue, 22 Feb 2005, Hugh Sasse Staff Elec Eng wrote: A few weeks ago I wrote to the Gnu coding standards people, with a suggestion that there should be a DEPENDENCIES file, so that It would be nice if autoconf did that for itself. I don't recall a "recent

Re: RFE: configure -> dependency list on exit.

2005-02-22 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Tue, 22 Feb 2005, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: On Tue, 22 Feb 2005, Thomas Dickey wrote: On Tue, 22 Feb 2005, Hugh Sasse Staff Elec Eng wrote: A few weeks ago I wrote to the Gnu coding standards people, with a suggestion that there should be a DEPENDENCIES file, so that It would be nice if autoconf di

Re: RFE: configure -> dependency list on exit.

2005-02-22 Thread Paul Eggert
Hugh Sasse Staff Elec Eng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > This message is a request to implement the suggestion that configure > produce a listing, when it finishes, of the packages needed to build > this package That would be a nice thing to have, but I don't see how to implement it easily. Perha

Re: RFE: configure -> dependency list on exit.

2005-02-22 Thread Hugh Sasse Staff Elec Eng
On Tue, 22 Feb 2005, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: On Tue, 22 Feb 2005, Thomas Dickey wrote: On Tue, 22 Feb 2005, Hugh Sasse Staff Elec Eng wrote: A few weeks ago I wrote to the Gnu coding standards people, with a suggestion that there should be a DEPENDENCIES file, so that It would be nice if autoconf di

Re: RFE: configure -> dependency list on exit.

2005-02-22 Thread Hugh Sasse Staff Elec Eng
On Tue, 22 Feb 2005, Paul Eggert wrote: Hugh Sasse Staff Elec Eng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: This message is a request to implement the suggestion that configure produce a listing, when it finishes, of the packages needed to build this package That would be a nice thing to have, but I don't see ho

Next release

2005-02-22 Thread Roger Leigh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi folks, Is it known when Autoconf 2.59c will be due for release? (Not to pressure anyone!; I just need to plan ahead for my own releases since I intend to depend upon it). Thanks, Roger - -- Roger Leigh Printing on GNU/Linux? h

Request for configure override for AC_FUNC_MALLOC

2005-02-22 Thread Marc Singer
It is clear to me the intention of the AC_FUNC_MALLOC in protecting programs from non-conforming malloc() implementations. This conservative feature is making it difficult to cross compile packages. It would be helpful if there was an option to ./configure to tell the script that even though this

Re: RFE: configure -> dependency list on exit.

2005-02-22 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Tue, 22 Feb 2005, Hugh Sasse Staff Elec Eng wrote: I think that at present there is no structured dependency information in the ac files from which configure and so on are built. I would suggest that some directives for expressing dependencies be added, so that tsort could be used to determine

Re: RFE: configure -> dependency list on exit.

2005-02-22 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Tue, 22 Feb 2005, Hugh Sasse Staff Elec Eng wrote: totally wrong though, since failure to detect a header or library could actually be due to an earlier error in the configuration process (config.log needs to be carefully inspected). Tsort. If an earlier thing fails for a given branch of dep

Re: RFE: configure -> dependency list on exit.

2005-02-22 Thread Hugh Sasse Staff Elec Eng
On Tue, 22 Feb 2005, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: On Tue, 22 Feb 2005, Hugh Sasse Staff Elec Eng wrote: I think that at present there is no structured dependency information in the ac files from which configure and so on are built. I would suggest that some directives for expressing dependencies be adde

Re: RFE: configure -> dependency list on exit.

2005-02-22 Thread Hugh Sasse Staff Elec Eng
On Tue, 22 Feb 2005, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: On Tue, 22 Feb 2005, Hugh Sasse Staff Elec Eng wrote: totally wrong though, since failure to detect a header or library could actually be due to an earlier error in the configuration process (config.log needs to be carefully inspected). Tsort. If an e

Re: RFE: configure -> dependency list on exit.

2005-02-22 Thread Paul Eggert
Hugh Sasse Staff Elec Eng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > As to my providing patches for this: well, if I was familiar with > the internals, then it would be practical for me to do that. Perhaps you could find someone who is willing to implement the proposal? I'm afraid I lack the time. And it se

Re: RFE: configure -> dependency list on exit.

2005-02-22 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Tue, 22 Feb 2005, Hugh Sasse Staff Elec Eng wrote: Alas, it is not that easy. If you have 16 possible libraries you need to link against, it may be that library 5 provides what you were looking for (and need), but library 14 needed something else from library 5 (maybe optional symbols, or an

Re: RFE: configure -> dependency list on exit.

2005-02-22 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Tue, 22 Feb 2005, Hugh Sasse Staff Elec Eng wrote: If it is known to be provided by a package, suggest that package. It should not quit: it should look for other things it needs. Then list the info before exiting. configure script simply record that the function is not available and the app rec

Re: Request for configure override for AC_FUNC_MALLOC

2005-02-22 Thread Marc Singer
On Tue, Feb 22, 2005 at 04:15:36PM -0800, Paul Eggert wrote: > Marc Singer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > It would be helpful if there was an option to ./configure to tell the > > script that even though this is a cross compilation, I know that the > > malloc function is good. > > Can't you se

Re: Request for configure override for AC_FUNC_MALLOC

2005-02-22 Thread Paul Eggert
Marc Singer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > It would be helpful if there was an option to ./configure to tell the > script that even though this is a cross compilation, I know that the > malloc function is good. Can't you set ac_cv_func_malloc_0_nonnull in your environment? That sort of thing? It'

Re: Next release

2005-02-22 Thread Paul Eggert
Roger Leigh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Is it known when Autoconf 2.59c will be due for release? Sorry, no. ___ Autoconf mailing list Autoconf@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/autoconf

Re: RFE: configure -> dependency list on exit.

2005-02-22 Thread Hugh Sasse Staff Elec Eng
On Tue, 22 Feb 2005, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: On Tue, 22 Feb 2005, Hugh Sasse Staff Elec Eng wrote: Yes, so library 5 is a dependency of library 14. That's what I'm trying to express (in my later post). However, it is not a *known* (to the configure script developer) dependency. The failure is due t

Re: Request for configure override for AC_FUNC_MALLOC

2005-02-22 Thread Marc Singer
On Tue, Feb 22, 2005 at 04:15:36PM -0800, Paul Eggert wrote: > Marc Singer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > It would be helpful if there was an option to ./configure to tell the > > script that even though this is a cross compilation, I know that the > > malloc function is good. > > Can't you se

Re: RFE: configure -> dependency list on exit.

2005-02-22 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Wed, 23 Feb 2005, Hugh Sasse Staff Elec Eng wrote: However, it is not a *known* (to the configure script developer) dependency. The failure is due to an indirect dependency. In which case we are no worse off than we are now, but where things are known, we are better off. Yes, indeed. Your ideas

Re: RFE: configure -> dependency list on exit.

2005-02-22 Thread Hugh Sasse Staff Elec Eng
On Tue, 22 Feb 2005, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: On Tue, 22 Feb 2005, Hugh Sasse Staff Elec Eng wrote: configure script simply record that the function is not available and the app record it to announce at the end and move on... More often than not, if something important is missing, the configure scri

Re: RFE: configure -> dependency list on exit.

2005-02-22 Thread Hugh Sasse Staff Elec Eng
On Tue, 22 Feb 2005, Paul Eggert wrote: Hugh Sasse Staff Elec Eng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: As to my providing patches for this: well, if I was familiar with the internals, then it would be practical for me to do that. Part of the problem here is that your proposal is almost diametrically opposed

Re: Request for configure override for AC_FUNC_MALLOC

2005-02-22 Thread Ben Pfaff
Marc Singer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The trouble is that I want to be able to cross compile a large > number of packages without going through the effort to patch > and add this function. If programs fail because of this, it's because they're not using AC_FUNC_MALLOC properly: they are not m

Re: RFE: configure -> dependency list on exit.

2005-02-22 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Wed, Feb 23, 2005 at 01:24:06AM +, Hugh Sasse Staff Elec Eng wrote: > No. I'm proposing that Autoconf tell me as much as possible when > things go wrong. "Possible" includes knowledge that the authors of a > configuration have. "As much" includes not dying prematurely, > using dependency