Re: Problem with symlinks and VPATH Builds

2002-09-02 Thread Akim Demaille
> "Paul" == Paul Eggert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Paul> In the long run I'm not sure the Autoconf manual is the right Paul> place for a "portable shell programming HOWTO". We agree, but this section has to reach its critical mass before being cut from Autoconf's documentation itself. P

Re: Problem with symlinks and VPATH Builds

2002-09-02 Thread Paul Eggert
> From: Akim Demaille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 25 Jul 2002 13:04:11 +0200 > > Wow. Paul, would you install this in autoconf.texi? OK, I installed this patch. I hope it covers everything. 2002-09-02 Paul Eggert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * doc/autoconf.texi (Limitations of Builtins): Ex

Re: --with-foo= vs. FOO=${FOO:-foo_default}

2002-09-02 Thread mcmahill
On Mon, 2 Sep 2002, Harlan Stenn wrote: > I could be mistaken but I think some of us are talking about "how do we > specify the default for X", and not "do we specify X at compile time or at > runtime". In my case I'm talking about how do I set some defaults at compile time. They can (i thin

Re: --with-foo= vs. FOO=${FOO:-foo_default}

2002-09-02 Thread Philip Willoughby
Today, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> It may be wrong (or merely suboptimal) to abuse --with and --enable, but if >> the only tool you have is a hammer... > >This is unfortunately how I feel. I hate to abuse the --with flags, but >setting 27 different environment variables or editing a config file

Re: --with-foo= vs. FOO=${FOO:-foo_default}

2002-09-02 Thread Bruce Korb
Ben Pfaff wrote: > In my experience, a cryptic configuration file is almost always > an improvement over a configure switch. You're at Stanford. You must be a student. Hand editing configure or config.status are completely insufferable as alternatives. I am bold enough to say that if you don't

Re: --with-foo= vs. FOO=${FOO:-foo_default}

2002-09-02 Thread Ben Pfaff
Bruce Korb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Ben Pfaff wrote: > > > In my experience, a cryptic configuration file is almost always > > an improvement over a configure switch. > > You're at Stanford. You must be a student. You got a problem with that? I have a degree in electrical engineering an

Re: --with-foo= vs. FOO=${FOO:-foo_default}

2002-09-02 Thread Russ Allbery
Ben Pfaff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> This seems like obviously bad advice to me. How is one expected to >> handle something like specification of a default paper size unless >> there's a user switch somewhere? >> Surely the GNU coding standards are

Re: --with-foo= vs. FOO=${FOO:-foo_default}

2002-09-02 Thread Ben Pfaff
Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Ben Pfaff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > In my experience, a cryptic configuration file is almost always an > > improvement over a configure switch. To change a configure switch, I > > have to find the program's source code and figure out and go throug

Re: --with-foo= vs. FOO=${FOO:-foo_default}

2002-09-02 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Mon, Sep 02, 2002 at 09:49:33AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > The pre-autoconf solution was to make people edit a C header file and > follow somewhat cryptic instructions in comments, or edit a Makefile and > set defaults. Surely people don't think we should go back to that? A apparently so

Re: --with-foo= vs. FOO=${FOO:-foo_default}

2002-09-02 Thread Akim Demaille
| > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | > Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2002 08:57:10 -0400 (EDT) | > | > So which is the recommended practices way to handle this with autoconf? | | The GNU coding standards say this: | |You will note that the categories `--with-' and `--enable-' are |narrow: they *do not* pr

Re: converting netkit to autoconf?

2002-09-02 Thread Akim Demaille
recently back from vacations :) > "Bruce" == Bruce Korb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Bruce> Paul Eggert wrote: >> M4's rules are sometimes painful, but the shell's are often worse. Bruce> No way. What is crucial in quoting rules is that they be Bruce> consistent. M4's are not. Second in