Re: Detecting the need for -mwin32 in newer cygwin gcc's

2001-03-08 Thread Charles S. Wilson
Alexandre Oliva wrote: > > On Mar 7, 2001, Christopher Faylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Basically, I think we need something like a AC_PROG_GCC_USES_MWIN32. > > I have mixed feelings about having this macro in autoconf. On one > hand, it would be kind of promoting the use of proprietar

Re: Detecting the need for -mwin32 in newer cygwin gcc's

2001-03-08 Thread Alexandre Oliva
On Mar 8, 2001, "Charles S. Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So, by absorbing AC_PROG_GCC_USES_MWIN32, are you helping the GPL half, > or the proprietary half? > By refusing to absorb it, are you hurting the proprietary half, or the > GPL half? > Both, of course. > Which is more important

Re: Detecting the need for -mwin32 in newer cygwin gcc's

2001-03-08 Thread Robert Collins
- Original Message - From: "Alexandre Oliva" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Charles S. Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Christopher Faylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 9:48 PM Subject: Re: Detecting the need for -mwin32 in newer cy

Re: Detecting the need for -mwin32 in newer cygwin gcc's

2001-03-08 Thread Alexandre Oliva
On Mar 8, 2001, "Robert Collins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Having set the stage above, you can see that squid uses autoconf to > detect what features are available, before trying to compile them in, > and that it is very reasonable for the developers to add fine tuned > support for various co

Re: Detecting the need for -mwin32 in newer cygwin gcc's

2001-03-08 Thread Earnie Boyd
Alexandre Oliva wrote: > > On Mar 8, 2001, "Charles S. Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > So, by absorbing AC_PROG_GCC_USES_MWIN32, are you helping the GPL half, > > or the proprietary half? > > > By refusing to absorb it, are you hurting the proprietary half, or the > > GPL half? > > >

Re: Rename atomicity

2001-03-08 Thread Earnie Boyd
Mike Castle wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 05:51:45PM +0100, Assar Westerlund wrote: > > Mike Castle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > NT. (NT will happily rename() across disks, hardly an atomic operation). > > > > What rename() is that? It's not the one in their posix library I > > assume

Re: config headers and #undefs

2001-03-08 Thread Akim Demaille
Kevin Ryde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'm using AM_CONFIG_HEADER to insert a couple of configure-time > defines into headers which will be installed. This works well, except > that I want to have one literal #undef pass through, rather than be > commented out like normally happens. > > Perha

Re: Detecting the need for -mwin32 in newer cygwin gcc's

2001-03-08 Thread Charles S. Wilson
Alexandre Oliva wrote: > > On Mar 8, 2001, "Charles S. Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > So, by absorbing AC_PROG_GCC_USES_MWIN32, are you helping the GPL half, > > or the proprietary half? > > > By refusing to absorb it, are you hurting the proprietary half, or the > > GPL half? > > >

Re: config headers and #undefs

2001-03-08 Thread Akim Demaille
Akim Demaille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > This is typically what should happen in config.h. config.h is s/should/should not/ > strictly equivalent to a series of -D flags passed to the compiler. > Anything else, such as including a header, belongs to system.h. > > Really, unless I misunders

Re: Detecting the need for -mwin32 in newer cygwin gcc's

2001-03-08 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 11:49:07PM -0300, Alexandre Oliva wrote: >On Mar 7, 2001, Christopher Faylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Basically, I think we need something like a AC_PROG_GCC_USES_MWIN32. > >I have mixed feelings about having this macro in autoconf. On one >hand, it would be kind o

Re: Detecting the need for -mwin32 in newer cygwin gcc's

2001-03-08 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 10:49:33PM +1100, Robert Collins wrote: >cygwin, win32 >cygwin, nowin32 >no cygwin (aka mingw32), win32 >no cygwin, nowin32 -mno-cygwin and -mnowin32 is not an allowed combination. Please, let's not complicate this. The only thing required is a check for -mwin32. I'm no

Re: Detecting the need for -mwin32 in newer cygwin gcc's

2001-03-08 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 03:47:44AM -0500, Charles S. Wilson wrote: >Alexandre Oliva wrote: >> >> On Mar 7, 2001, Christopher Faylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> > Basically, I think we need something like a AC_PROG_GCC_USES_MWIN32. >> >> I have mixed feelings about having this macro in aut

Re: Detecting the need for -mwin32 in newer cygwin gcc's

2001-03-08 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 09:23:46AM -0500, Earnie Boyd wrote: >Alexandre Oliva wrote: >> >> On Mar 8, 2001, "Charles S. Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> > So, by absorbing AC_PROG_GCC_USES_MWIN32, are you helping the GPL half, >> > or the proprietary half? >> >> > By refusing to absorb

Re: Detecting the need for -mwin32 in newer cygwin gcc's

2001-03-08 Thread Alexandre Oliva
On Mar 8, 2001, Christopher Faylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Another problem is the package maintainers (if they exist) will be slow > to adapt to the new option and we'll be answering this question a lot. > I'd rather just say "Add AC_PROG_GCC_USES_MWIN32" to your script than > trying to tel

Re: Detecting the need for -mwin32 in newer cygwin gcc's

2001-03-08 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 03:15:06PM -0300, Alexandre Oliva wrote: >On Mar 8, 2001, Christopher Faylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Another problem is the package maintainers (if they exist) will be slow >> to adapt to the new option and we'll be answering this question a lot. >> I'd rather just

Depending on system install scripts (was Re: [BUGS] COBOL) (fwd)

2001-03-08 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Hi, this came up in our project. Why, if a package is required to ship install-sh anyway, do we look for a system install program when this might just cause weird problems? (And you know that many system's 'install' programs are just full of weird problems.) Compare this to the case of mkinstal

Re: Detecting the need for -mwin32 in newer cygwin gcc's

2001-03-08 Thread Robert Collins
- Original Message - From: "Alexandre Oliva" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Robert Collins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Charles S. Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Christopher Faylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 12:02 AM Subject: Re: Dete

Re: Detecting the need for -mwin32 in newer cygwin gcc's

2001-03-08 Thread Robert Collins
- Original Message - From: "Christopher Faylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 10:49:33PM +1100, Robert Collins wrote: > >cygwin, win32 > >cygwin, nowin32 > >no cygwin (aka mingw32), win32 > >no cygwin, nowin32 > > -mno-cygwin and -mnowin32 is not an allowed combination.