Re: x86_64 and x86 userland

2005-05-18 Thread Richard B. Kreckel
On Mon, 2 May 2005, Ralf Wildenhues wrote: > Now, if you configure a package and forget to add > --build=i686-pc-linux-gnu > or maybe use the setarch tool to set personality (I do not even know how > portable/available this is -- it exists in RedHat Fedora),[...] It appears to be specific to Red

Re: x86_64 and x86 userland

2005-05-17 Thread Richard B. Kreckel
On Sat, 7 May 2005, Ralf Wildenhues wrote: > Sorry for the long response delay. And thank you everyone for providing > useful information. Sorry too, for not popping into this discussion earlier. > * Noah Misch wrote on Tue, May 03, 2005 at 03:57:07AM CEST: > > On Mon, May 02, 2005 at 10:31:57AM

Re: x86_64 and x86 userland

2005-05-09 Thread Ralf Wildenhues
Hi Noah, others, Sorry for the long response delay. And thank you everyone for providing useful information. * Noah Misch wrote on Tue, May 03, 2005 at 03:57:07AM CEST: > On Mon, May 02, 2005 at 10:31:57AM +0200, Ralf Wildenhues wrote: > > I have a question regarding systems with more than one A

Re: x86_64 and x86 userland

2005-05-05 Thread Florian Weimer
* Bob Proulx: > 2. User installs amd64 (aka x86-64) kernel. /usr/bin/ is x86 but can >now run amd64 binaries too. So now the userland is a multiarch >userland. It's also possible to run an AMD64 kernel, but do not install any AMD64 libraries. Technically, the system might be able to ru

Re: x86_64 and x86 userland

2005-05-05 Thread Florian Weimer
* Ralf Wildenhues: > or maybe use the setarch tool to set personality (I do not even know how > portable/available this is -- it exists in RedHat Fedora), it may break, > e.g. because of the __x86_64__ preprocessor define. This is a bug. Debian only defines __x86_64__ when -m64 is given on the c

Re: x86_64 and x86 userland

2005-05-04 Thread Andreas Schwab
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Proulx) writes: > Actually, that is one of the possibilities. And in that case I would > deny that it is a completely x86 userland. > > 1. User installs x86 kernel. x86 userland. Everything 32-bit. I >think this would be considered the "normal" installation. > > 2. U

Re: x86_64 and x86 userland

2005-05-04 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 03 May 2005, Russ Allbery wrote: > Harald Dunkel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Ralf Wildenhues wrote: > > >> I have a question regarding systems with more than one ABI, > >> specifically x86_64. If you consider for example the Debian > >> distribution which has a x86_64 kernel, but a co

Re: x86_64 and x86 userland

2005-05-04 Thread Bob Proulx
Ralf Wildenhues wrote: > I have a question regarding systems with more than one ABI, specifically > x86_64. If you consider for example the Debian distribution which has a > x86_64 kernel, but a completely x86 userland, Actually, that is one of the possibilities. And in that case I would deny th

Re: x86_64 and x86 userland

2005-05-04 Thread Russ Allbery
Harald Dunkel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Ralf Wildenhues wrote: >> I have a question regarding systems with more than one ABI, >> specifically x86_64. If you consider for example the Debian >> distribution which has a x86_64 kernel, but a completely x86 userland, >> config.guess still gives yo

Re: x86_64 and x86 userland

2005-05-04 Thread Ralf Corsepius
Retry - The first posting doesn't seem to have made it. On Mon, 2005-05-02 at 10:31 +0200, Ralf Wildenhues wrote: > I have a question regarding systems with more than one ABI, specifically > x86_64. If you consider for example the Debian distribution which has a > x86_64 kernel, but a completely

Re: x86_64 and x86 userland

2005-05-03 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On Mon, 2005-05-02 at 10:31 +0200, Ralf Wildenhues wrote: > I have a question regarding systems with more than one ABI, specifically > x86_64. If you consider for example the Debian distribution which has a > x86_64 kernel, but a completely x86 userland, config.guess still gives > you x86_64-unkno

Re: x86_64 and x86 userland

2005-05-03 Thread Harald Dunkel
Ralf Wildenhues wrote: > I have a question regarding systems with more than one ABI, specifically > x86_64. If you consider for example the Debian distribution which has a > x86_64 kernel, but a completely x86 userland, config.guess still gives > you x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu as output. (I have be

Re: x86_64 and x86 userland

2005-05-03 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Mon, May 02, 2005 at 10:31:57AM +0200, Ralf Wildenhues wrote: > I have a question regarding systems with more than one ABI, specifically > x86_64. If you consider for example the Debian distribution which has a > x86_64 kernel, but a completely x86 userland, config.guess still gives > you x86_6

Re: x86_64 and x86 userland

2005-05-03 Thread Noah Misch
On Mon, May 02, 2005 at 10:31:57AM +0200, Ralf Wildenhues wrote: > I have a question regarding systems with more than one ABI, specifically > x86_64. If you consider for example the Debian distribution which has a > x86_64 kernel, but a completely x86 userland, config.guess still gives > you x86_6

Re: x86_64 and x86 userland

2005-05-03 Thread Paul Eggert
Ralf Wildenhues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Should I rather ask this on the config-patches list or elsewhere? Yes, that's the right place to ask it. Personally I would prefer having config.guess default to whatever the compiler does (defaulting to plain "cc" or "gcc", I guess). That's the mos