Re: just one of a million reasons why autoconf is a worthless piece of shit (2)

2008-03-18 Thread Bob Proulx
Bruce Korb wrote: > I do hate contributing to this thread, but way back at the beginning, > I believe I remember that his irritation began with with some indecipherable > "command not found" message. I hate adding to it as well. But just to keep the records straight the original complaint was abo

Re: just one of a million reasons why autoconf is a worthless piece of shit (2)

2008-03-18 Thread Dan McMahill
Paul Smith wrote: Since your last post seemed to be a bit more willing to engage in a dialog, I'll send this then I'm done. Some of these points have been made already but maybe some concrete examples will help. I've heard various complaints about autoconf and automake over the years and he

Re: just one of a million reasons why autoconf is a worthless piece of shit (2)

2008-03-18 Thread Keith Marshall
On Tuesday 18 March 2008 02:28, John W. Eaton wrote: > On 17-Mar-2008, Keith Marshall wrote: > | I've recently ported Andries Brouwer's, (now Federico Lucifredi's), > | variant of John Eaton's man program, for use with MSYS, under > | MS-Windows. That package came with a hand crafted configure > |

Re: just one of a million reasons why autoconf is a worthless piece of shit (2)

2008-03-18 Thread Bruce Korb
Hi Paul, I do hate contributing to this thread, but way back at the beginning, I believe I remember that his irritation began with with some indecipherable "command not found" message. I found the same thing quite frustrating. I also complained (somewhat more politely :), and now Ralph has augmen

Re: just one of a million reasons why autoconf is a worthless piece of shit (2)

2008-03-18 Thread Paul Smith
Since your last post seemed to be a bit more willing to engage in a dialog, I'll send this then I'm done. Some of these points have been made already but maybe some concrete examples will help. You have two misconceptions which are contributing to your frustration, I think: the first and largest

Re: just one of a million reasons why autoconf is a worthless piece of shit (2)

2008-03-18 Thread Dirk
Paul Smith wrote: On Mon, 2008-03-17 at 15:37 +0100, Dirk wrote: I HAVE written something that works better than autoconf... in the real world... that requires only a installed C compiler... and is so easy it makes autoconf look like a project whose purpose is to harm open source development...

Re: just one of a million reasons why autoconf is a worthless piece of shit (2)

2008-03-17 Thread Paul Smith
On Mon, 2008-03-17 at 15:37 +0100, Dirk wrote: > I HAVE written something that works better than autoconf... in the > real world... that requires only a installed C compiler... and is so > easy it makes autoconf look like a project whose purpose is to harm > open source development... Hah! Good o

Re: just one of a million reasons why autoconf is a worthless piece of shit (2)

2008-03-17 Thread John W. Eaton
On 17-Mar-2008, Keith Marshall wrote: | I've recently ported Andries Brouwer's, (now Federico Lucifredi's), | variant of John Eaton's man program, for use with MSYS, under | MS-Windows. That package came with a hand crafted configure script, | which "wasn't worth the effort of autoconfiscating

Re: just one of a million reasons why autoconf is a worthless piece of shit (2)

2008-03-17 Thread Keith Marshall
On Sunday 16 March 2008 19:28, Paul Smith wrote: > On Sun, 2008-03-16 at 15:40 +0100, Dirk wrote: > > My point is that autoconf is such a bloated, self-important, > > wet-script-kiddie-dream that is DOESN'T make the build process > > easier... > > > > It rather encourages people to write their own

Re: just one of a million reasons why autoconf is a worthless piece of shit (2)

2008-03-17 Thread Bernd Jendrissek
On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 9:28 PM, Paul Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Second, if you think you can write your own "config script" that will be > portable to even a small fraction of the systems that an autoconfiscated > package is, then by all means, have at it. Many people have made the >

Re: just one of a million reasons why autoconf is a worthless piece of shit (2)

2008-03-16 Thread Paul Smith
On Sun, 2008-03-16 at 17:12 -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Sun, 16 Mar 2008, Paul Smith wrote: > > Second, if you think you can write your own "config script" that will be > > portable to even a small fraction of the systems that an autoconfiscated > > LOL! I think you wanted to s

Re: just one of a million reasons why autoconf is a worthless piece of shit (2)

2008-03-16 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sun, 16 Mar 2008, Paul Smith wrote: > Second, if you think you can write your own "config script" that will be > portable to even a small fraction of the systems that an autoconfiscated LOL! I think you wanted to say autoconfed/autoconfied here. Autoconfiscated makes it sound like you agree wi

Re: just one of a million reasons why autoconf is a worthless piece of shit (2)

2008-03-16 Thread Allan Clark
"don't feed the troll?" The poster raises no concrete suggestions, and seems to focus on his own ease, not the portability of his product. Seems to be just tossing crap around, trolling for a response. Some of us are defined by who we're fighting rather than what we're building. Allan On Sun,

Re: just one of a million reasons why autoconf is a worthless piece of shit (2)

2008-03-16 Thread Paul Smith
On Sun, 2008-03-16 at 15:40 +0100, Dirk wrote: > My point is that autoconf is such a bloated, self-important, > wet-script-kiddie-dream that is DOESN'T make the build process > easier... > > It rather encourages people to write their own config scripts... > > So the whole thing has lost its mean