Re: conversion to git

2007-09-22 Thread Eric Blake
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 According to Benoit SIGOURE on 9/22/2007 4:15 AM: > [Benefits] You are forgetting my most important benefit - git provides a cvsserver. In other words, it is possible to connect a CVS client to the git repository on savannah (once we can get that tur

Re: conversion to git

2007-09-22 Thread Benoit SIGOURE
On Sep 22, 2007, at 5:26 AM, Russ Allbery wrote: Andrej Prsa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Specifically, I did switch from CVS to Subversion about a year ago and never regretted it. Now I would really like to learn what people have to say about git. [SNIP: branching made easy and powerful]

Re: conversion to git

2007-09-21 Thread Russ Allbery
Andrej Prsa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Specifically, I did switch from CVS to Subversion about a year ago and > never regretted it. Now I would really like to learn what people have to > say about git. Branching and merging are spectacular. That's the main thing in git that really impressed m

Re: conversion to git

2007-09-21 Thread Andrej Prsa
> Anyway, this is off-topic for this list, so let's stop here. We'll see > if this sudden move to git, proves sustainability (I don't have any > experiences with git - But having not been able to avoid hg/mercurial > in recent past, I came to the conclusion that hg's usability is not > in a shape t

Re: conversion to git

2007-09-20 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On Thu, 2007-09-20 at 17:16 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Ralf Corsepius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On Thu, 2007-09-20 at 00:04 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > > True, but do you feel subversion is progress? > > Absolutely. Significant progress. Well my experiences with SVN are different. Esp.

Re: conversion to git

2007-09-20 Thread Paul Smith
On Thu, 2007-09-20 at 02:51 -0600, Warren Young wrote: > Maybe you can switch to Savannah's evil twin, Gna. http://gna.org/ The software I work on is GNU make. I don't think the FSF (who holds the copyright) would be too thrilled about it moving to Gna :-). -- -

Re: conversion to git

2007-09-20 Thread Russ Allbery
Ralf Corsepius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, 2007-09-20 at 00:04 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: >> I'm fairly certain that's not the case. The primary advantage of CVS >> that got people to switch to it was that it did considerably more than >> RCS and had considerably more available administ

Re: conversion to git

2007-09-20 Thread Bob Proulx
Bernd Jendrissek wrote: > You don't HAVE to install all 132 git-* commands. just plain "git" is > just hardlinked to all those different names. If you're happy to > ditch the git file manager, you can just intall 'git' and access its > subcommands as "git log" / "git pull" / etc. instead of "git-

Re: conversion to git

2007-09-20 Thread Bernd Jendrissek
On 9/20/07, Bob Friesenhahn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Very interesting. If various projects flee from CVS to some other > version control system then I hope that the projects I am involved > with flee to the same system rather than many different systems. AFAICT the fleeing is mostly to exactl

Re: conversion to git

2007-09-20 Thread Warren Young
Paul Smith wrote: Savannah does not support SubversionSo, I'm stuck with CVS, Maybe you can switch to Savannah's evil twin, Gna. http://gna.org/ ___ Autoconf mailing list Autoconf@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/autoconf

Re: conversion to git

2007-09-20 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On Thu, 2007-09-20 at 00:04 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Ralf Corsepius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On Wed, 2007-09-19 at 21:01 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > > >> I think in practice adoption drives portability more than the other way > >> around. I don't think CVS became popular because it wa

Re: conversion to git

2007-09-20 Thread Russ Allbery
Ralf Corsepius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, 2007-09-19 at 21:01 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: >> I think in practice adoption drives portability more than the other way >> around. I don't think CVS became popular because it was portable; > Well, I think it became popular, because it had be

Re: conversion to git

2007-09-19 Thread Ralf Wildenhues
Hello, First, can we agree to keep an (at least) read-only CVS mirror for Autoconf running for, say, a couple of years? Thanks. * Bob Friesenhahn wrote on Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 04:18:23AM CEST: > > Git seems to be quite new and still very Linux centric. It is not > even included in the 'ports

Re: conversion to git

2007-09-19 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On Wed, 2007-09-19 at 21:01 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > I think in practice adoption drives portability more than the other way > around. I don't think CVS became popular because it was portable; Well, I think it became popular, because it had been and still IS lean, simple to use/administrate a

Re: conversion to git

2007-09-19 Thread Paul Smith
My problem with all these tools is the only ones that seem to have any serious attempts at portability so far--and by "portability" I include ports to Windows that are relatively easy to install and _run well_--are CVS and Subversion. Of those, Savannah does not support Subversion. So, I'm stuck

Re: conversion to git

2007-09-19 Thread Eric Blake
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 According to Bob Friesenhahn on 9/19/2007 9:52 PM: > Very interesting. If various projects flee from CVS to some other > version control system then I hope that the projects I am involved with > flee to the same system rather than many different syste

Re: conversion to git

2007-09-19 Thread Russ Allbery
Bob Friesenhahn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I have looked at Subversion and find its installation to be rather > unwieldly, requiring many additional packages to be installed of > particular versions. Subversion seems to use a rather exotic > implementation rather than a fairly simple one like

Re: conversion to git

2007-09-19 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Wed, 19 Sep 2007, Russ Allbery wrote: Agreed. There are a few other interesting contenders out there with significant install bases that probably won't go away soon (Mercurial is being backed by Sun, for example, and bzr by Canonical), and I expect Subversion will persist for quite a while f

Re: conversion to git

2007-09-19 Thread Russ Allbery
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Proulx) writes: > As far as the plethora of systems in use I believe that a consolidation > is occurring. In particular I see that Git is gaining a larger and > larger community of developers every day. People will always argue > endlessly that abc is better or worse than

Re: conversion to git

2007-09-19 Thread Bob Proulx
Bob Friesenhahn wrote: > Git seems to be quite new and still very Linux centric. But I expect that Eric is using it on MS however. That's about as far from GNU/Linux as one can get. :-) > It is not even included in the 'ports' collection on my FreeBSD > system (only GNU 'git' is there which the

Re: conversion to git

2007-09-19 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Wed, 19 Sep 2007, Eric Blake wrote: What is the purpose of converting to git? Primarily speed, but also security. In particular, Bruno found a rather telling flaw in the CVS model of pushing all local files to the server, and letting the server do all the work: http://lists.gnu.org/archive

Re: conversion to git

2007-09-19 Thread Eric Blake
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 According to Bob Friesenhahn on 9/19/2007 7:12 PM: Hi Bob, >> >> The initial git import is complete. Feel free to check it out: >> >> http://git.savannah.gnu.org/gitweb/?p=autoconf.git > > What is the purpose of converting to git? Primarily speed,

Re: conversion to git

2007-09-19 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Wed, 19 Sep 2007, Eric Blake wrote: Eric Blake byu.net> writes: I'm hoping to convert the Autoconf repository to git (while still providing a CVS read-only mirror) The initial git import is complete. Feel free to check it out: http://git.savannah.gnu.org/gitweb/?p=autoconf.git What

Re: conversion to git

2007-09-19 Thread Eric Blake
Eric Blake byu.net> writes: > > I'm hoping to convert the Autoconf repository to git (while still providing a > CVS read-only mirror) The initial git import is complete. Feel free to check it out: http://git.savannah.gnu.org/gitweb/?p=autoconf.git There are still some things to work out, su

Re: conversion to git

2007-09-14 Thread Paul Eggert
> Eric Blake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> cks 1994-09-22 Chris Siebenmann, I expect. >> gnu 1997-07-04 I think this was an administrative account, not necessarily associated with any single person. >> sac 1993-04-30 >> wood1993-04-09 Sorry, I don't know these. ___

Re: conversion to git

2007-09-14 Thread Benoit SIGOURE
On Sep 14, 2007, at 4:54 PM, Eric Blake wrote: I'm hoping to convert the Autoconf repository to git (while still providing a CVS read-only mirror); ** O M G ** This is by far the best news I've heard since I read this list. Is this some sort of a global move? I've seen that Emacs also has

Re: conversion to git

2007-09-14 Thread Andreas Schwab
Eric Blake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > In the meantime, does anyone know the name of the person behind the following > user-ids, each of which has made commits to autoconf CVS but which left no > ChangeLog entry and no name in the CVS log for their actions? The various > commits were all yea