> "Steven" == Steven G Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> They don't have understood the point. And then, why keep the .o
>> too? And the .deps?
Steven> Again, it's a matter of tradeoffs and optimizing for the
Steven> common case. On the one hand, programs spewing files as a
Steven> si
| > * In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| > * On the subject of "Re: cache directory is not removed"
| > * Sent on Thu, 6 Jun 2002 12:46:15 -0500
| > * Honorable Bill Wendling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| >
| > BTW, the removal of automatically generating a config.cache file by
| > default was a ba
| I don't think anyone was advocating removing the autom4te.cache
| creation, and I'm sure that there are valid uses for it. Yes, I also find
| the amount of time it takes for autoconf to finish annoying, but when
| you're working in a CVS directory, it's annoying to have this directory
| there..
> "Sam" == Sam Steingold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> So, although I find it stupid, I'm ok to provide some
>> --remove-cache. But I'm definitely against making this the
>> default. I'm ok to rename it as .autom4te.cache too, if you find
>> it so ugly.
Sam> please do so!
Actually, I rem
> "Paul" == Paul Eggert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> From: Sam Steingold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 06 Jun 2002 11:26:02 -0400
>>
>> I could never understand why autoconf was written in m4 in the
>> first place. this is not a troll, I would really appreciate a
>> clarification.
Read the do
> From: Enrico Ng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 15:44:15 -0500
>
> like -DPACKAGE_NAME=\"\" -DPACKAGE_TARNAME=\"\" -DPACKAGE_VERSION=\"\"
> >
> > Sorry, I don't know. In GNU/Linux and Unix and POSIX, you must have
> > those backslashes, because the shell treats \ and " specially.
NTP has a configure fragment to test for GNU make and to abort if it's not
being used.
I need it for the case where somebody is building in srcdir != builddir on
an OS with a known VPATH bug in the stock make.
See www.ntp.org for a pointer to the code.
H
On Thu, 6 Jun 2002, Enrico Ng wrote:
> Is there a way to force my make file to use GNU Make, or make it stop if
> someone doesn't use GNU Make?
A little off-topic here, but..
You can rename your real Makefiles as GNUmakefile, and in `Makefile' put
something like
all:
echo "You need GN
Thanks in advance to anyone who can help me with this:
I am having trouble making shared libs with the latest autoconf/automake
packages:
>aclocal
>autoconf
configure.in:9: error: possibly undefined macro: AC_PROG_LIBTOOL
configure.in looks likt this:
## begin configure.in
AC_INIT(ReportFacto
Bill Wendling wrote:
[snip]
> If there's a problem with old stuff being in the cache, then that stuff
> probably doesn't belong in the cache.
>
> For our users, they rerun configure to add different options. The generic
> checks (for libraries, header files, sizeof types, etc) shouldn't need to
"Steven G. Johnson" wrote:
>
> Earnie Boyd wrote:
> > So now I run `configure -C' always. I use the cache files to
> > determine problem areas of my runtime libraries.
>
> Bill Wendling wrote:
> > BTW, the removal of automatically generating a config.cache file by
> > default was a bad idea,
Also sprach Steven G. Johnson:
}
} They shouldn't need to be re-checked only if the configure script is, as
} you say, being re-run just to add different options. However, if they
} are re-installing after a system reconfiguration, or simply copied the
} entire build directory over to another
Bill Wendling wrote:
> If there's a problem with old stuff being in the cache, then that stuff
> probably doesn't belong in the cache.
>
> For our users, they rerun configure to add different options. The generic
> checks (for libraries, header files, sizeof types, etc) shouldn't need to
> be rer
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Sam Steingold wrote:
> not at all. this is a common case of "developer's egotism":
>...
> autoconf _users_ run _autoconf_ rarely, so they do not care about its
> speed (but they do care about the junk it leaves behind!), but they run
> _configure_ (relatively) often, so they do care about its spe
Also sprach Steven G. Johnson:
} Earnie Boyd wrote:
} > So now I run `configure -C' always. I use the cache files to
} > determine problem areas of my runtime libraries.
}
} Bill Wendling wrote:
} > BTW, the removal of automatically generating a config.cache file by
} > default was a bad idea,
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Earnie Boyd wrote:
> So now I run `configure -C' always. I use the cache files to
> determine problem areas of my runtime libraries.
Bill Wendling wrote:
> BTW, the removal of automatically generating a config.cache file by
> default was a bad idea, in my opinion. We actually use that file qui
> * In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> * On the subject of "Re: cache directory is not removed"
> * Sent on Thu, 6 Jun 2002 12:46:15 -0500
> * Honorable Bill Wendling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> BTW, the removal of automatically generating a config.cache file by
> default was a bad idea, in my o
Is there a way to force my make file to use GNU Make, or make it stop if
someone doesn't use GNU Make?
- Original Message -
From: "Paul Eggert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: Absoft Define quotes problem
> > Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 09:09:46 -0500
> > From: Enrico Ng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > The problem is that AutoConf/Aut
On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 11:19:58AM -0700, Paul Eggert wrote:
> Merely replacing m4 with Perl won't dramatically improve
> Autoconf/Automake/Make/etc. If we want to improve things in a big
> way, we need to rethink the entire build process, and then decide what
> tools to use to implement the new
> From: Sam Steingold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 06 Jun 2002 11:26:02 -0400
>
> I could never understand why autoconf was written in m4 in the first
> place. this is not a troll, I would really appreciate a clarification.
>
> perl or, better yet, clisp (http://clisp.cons.org) appear to be more
Also sprach Akim Demaille:
} > "Steven" == Steven G Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
}
} Steven> Bill Wendling wrote:
} >> I concur. It is an annoyance. Having a flag (--remove-cache) as
} >> mentioned above would be very nice. Having the cache directory is
} >> fine, but keeping them ther
Also sprach Earnie Boyd:
}
} There is an easy way to get rid of the cache directory. It involves a
} simple command. This commands repeated use will not even come close to
} the amount of bits spread for this thread and others like it. Just `rm
} -rf autom4te-2.53.cache' if you don't want it
> * On the subject of "Re: cache directory is not removed"
> * Honorable Akim Demaille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> There are some bottlenecks in M4 (we are asking more services than it
> provides now, such as the call stack). The day this is C code instead
> of M4 code, we can raise this issu
> * In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> * On the subject of "Re: cache directory is not removed"
> * Sent on Wed, 5 Jun 2002 11:02:41 -0500
> * Honorable Bill Wendling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Also sprach Sam Steingold:
> } > * Honorable Akim Demaille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> } >
> } > >>
> "Steven" == Steven G Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Steven> Bill Wendling wrote:
>> I concur. It is an annoyance. Having a flag (--remove-cache) as
>> mentioned above would be very nice. Having the cache directory is
>> fine, but keeping them there is a pain...
I don't think you reali
"Steven G. Johnson" wrote:
>
> Bill Wendling wrote:
> > I concur. It is an annoyance. Having a flag (--remove-cache) as mentioned
> > above would be very nice. Having the cache directory is fine, but keeping
> > them there is a pain...
>
> I would go further and suggest that perhaps this should
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